~ Montreal Aftermath: December 1997 Official Release

[mrwhippy]

<p>WWF is actually pretty hard. Needed a 100-rated Austin and Rock angle to drag me up to a 80-rated show.</p><p> </p><p>

I like it.</p>

[MFP40]

There seems to be something wrong with your locations in this mod. Texas has been left out, as well as some other states.

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Henderson" data-cite="Henderson" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Shotgun Saturday Night was actually aired on USA Network.<p> </p><p> Can't wait to get back into this mod.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When was it on USA Network? I've heard about that, but trying to figure out when because I remember all the WWF Magazines saying "Check your local listings," and I remember what is now the local CW affiliate here(at the time the WB affiliate), KDAF 33, aired it every Saturday night at midnight. Up until Shotgun gave way to Jakked and channel 33 decided not to carry it, that station was practically the unofficial "official" home of WWF televised wrestling in the DFW area, lol.</p>

[EddieFnG]

<p>It aired from January 4, 1997 through August 21, 1999 as a syndicated broadcast.</p><p> </p><p>

That's straight from wiki, so <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[CrookedRainJr]

I loved this mod in the past, thanks Genadi for your hard work updating this.

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MFP40" data-cite="MFP40" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Great mod! I'm really enjoying this one.<p> </p><p> However, a decent number of alter egos are missing pictures, or the name of the picture assigned to the alter ego is not found in the picture pack.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, will have a look for next update and will be fixed.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MFP40" data-cite="MFP40" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There seems to be something wrong with your locations in this mod. Texas has been left out, as well as some other states.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep thanks noted, will be done for next update.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Good to know you guys are enjoying <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I'm having a blast booking WCW.</p>

[Sco xY2Jx]

<p>Honestly don't know whether to post this in here or in tech support, so I'll go both</p><p> </p><p>

Got up to January 98' and Shotgun Saturday Night (Playing as WWF). I saved and closed the game last night. Opened it up this afternoon to start booking Shotgun and my entire roster has been cleared. Absolutely nobody in there.</p><p>

So I figured, I'll take the hit, and cancel the show and I get;</p><p> </p><p>

'runtime error 3022'. The changes you requested to the table were not successful because they would create duplicate values in the index, primary key, or relationship. Change the data in the field or fields that contain duplicate data, remove the index, or redefine the index to permit duplicate entries and try again'.</p><p> </p><p>

Now I will post this in tech support but just wanted to alert others. Hopefully it's just a one-off and won't happen again, but I'm assuming my game is bugged out now. Devestated.</p>

[jhd1]

<p>Sounds like you've not been playing in admin mode, or your save file has been corrupted somehow. </p><p> </p><p>

Have you tried using the Game Recovery button (or manually restoring the backup)?</p>

[Sco xY2Jx]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sounds like you've not been playing in admin mode, or your save file has been corrupted somehow. <p> </p><p> Have you tried using the Game Recovery button (or manually restoring the backup)?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The game is set-up to automatically run in Admin mode. So I'm assuming the file has been corrupted. Now, I'm no computer noob but nor am I tech savvy, where-be this recovery button you speak of? Embedded into the game itself?</p>

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sco xY2Jx" data-cite="Sco xY2Jx" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The game is set-up to automatically run in Admin mode. So I'm assuming the file has been corrupted. Now, I'm no computer noob but nor am I tech savvy, where-be this recovery button you speak of? Embedded into the game itself?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Go to Load Game, then highlight the save game you want and click Game Recovery.</p>

[Slim Jim]

<p>Hogan's gimmick (Turncoat) is a Gimmicky one. This means he'll get dinged for being in long segments/matches, bigger penalties for losing to certain other gimmick types and hurt guys with other gimmick types by beating them. Might want to look at either changing his gimmick or changing the category of his current one.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, a lot of the WCW masked cruisers have Masked Luchadore, which suffers from the same problem. Proud Ethnic is a good catch-all that most can use without any issue if you want a quick change for those guys.</p>

[JamHead]

Brian Adams turned into Bryan Clark when he turned 35.

[plannine]

<p>Don't know if you're still doing anything with this mod, but if you are still updating it, you should probably make Kane a lot less conservative. It doesn't make any sense that I got into my game and Kane refuses to do inferno matches and fireball angles....</p><p> </p><p>

Also, (I may just not be able to find him, but) Gangrel doesn't seem to exist in the workers.</p>

[Jaysin]

I haven't looked at the mod in a while, but Gangrel should be under the name Vampire Warrior.

[plannine]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I haven't looked at the mod in a while, but Gangrel should be under the name Vampire Warrior.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're right. Thanks. I found him. I looked for every name he ever went by except that one. Haha.</p>

[TheGreatOne]

<p>((Sorry if this turns into more of a rant than constructive criticism however just voicing my opinion)) Always enjoy the montreal aftermath mods but I am struggling to get into this one at all basically because WCW has been made a sunk ship before you even play. The lifestyle stats are ridiculous to me with 90% of the locker room having some sort of problem.. since when did steroids effect people like Goldberg, Savage, Sting Konnan, Flair, Benoit, Guerrero's, Jericho's performances?!?!? Yeah they may have all taken them but I don't rmemeber hearing how it effected their performances and certainly not in 97 when WCW was at it's peak. Not only that the levels that have been given, Steiner getting something like 80% for steriods, that equals a chronic problem something he hasn't had even to this day some 15 years later, no wonder he can't pull a decent rating out on the game. People like Hogan, Flair Hall, Nash and Waltman aswell all struggle badly cause of the lifestyle ratings when in reality they were on fire during 97. Haven't looked through half the other wrestlers to see what lifestyle deductions they have but I can guarantee there are other questionable ones. </p><p> </p><p>

I just booked a nitro which included a face off between Bret Hart/Hogan. Flair calling out the nwo (hogan,nash,hall). Promos from DDP, Hennig, Scott Steiner. A match between Hennig and Flair (rated 63, yes hennig and flair 63!!<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) and then a main event of Hennig & Savage vs Flair & DDP (first match ended with a count out leading to tag team main event) and the show rating was 70, I think that says it all, looks like I'm going to download the tew 2010 version of MA.</p>

[Sco xY2Jx]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheGreatOne" data-cite="TheGreatOne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>((Sorry if this turns into more of a rant than constructive criticism however just voicing my opinion)) Always enjoy the montreal aftermath mods but I am struggling to get into this one at all basically because WCW has been made a sunk ship before you even play. The lifestyle stats are ridiculous to me with 90% of the locker room having some sort of problem.. since when did steroids effect people like Goldberg, Savage, Sting Konnan, Flair, Benoit, Guerrero's, Jericho's performances?!?!? Yeah they may have all taken them but I don't rmemeber hearing how it effected their performances and certainly not in 97 when WCW was at it's peak. Not only that the levels that have been given, Steiner getting something like 80% for steriods, that equals a chronic problem something he hasn't had even to this day some 15 years later, no wonder he can't pull a decent rating out on the game. People like Hogan, Flair Hall, Nash and Waltman aswell all struggle badly cause of the lifestyle ratings when in reality they were on fire during 97. Haven't looked through half the other wrestlers to see what lifestyle deductions they have but I can guarantee there are other questionable ones. <p> </p><p> I just booked a nitro which included a face off between Bret Hart/Hogan. Flair calling out the nwo (hogan,nash,hall). Promos from DDP, Hennig, Scott Steiner. A match between Hennig and Flair (rated 63, yes hennig and flair 63!!<img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) and then a main event of Hennig & Savage vs Flair & DDP (first match ended with a count out leading to tag team main event) and the show rating was 70, I think that says it all, looks like I'm going to download the tew 2010 version of MA.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Very first Nitro I booked with this mod and I pulled out an 88. Promo's from Hogan, Bret Hart, Bischoff, NWO Angles. A Jericho vs Guerrero match and Hart vs Hogan. Backstage rating is at 96%.</p><p> Perhaps if you were more constructive with criticism of the mod as opposed to just bashing it because you weren't happy with it, certain things could perhaps be looked at to make slight alterations. Are you sticking to the product settings and match times etc.?</p><p> Just don't think your comment is fair or constructive. Anyway, WCW is far from being a sunken ship.</p>

[Anderz]

As someone's who is playing as the WWF with this mod and getting well and truly spanked by the AI-controlled WCW in terms of show ratings I think you may have jumped the gun with your 'sunk ship' conclusion.

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="|Anderz|" data-cite="|Anderz|" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36821" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As someone's who is playing as the WWF with this mod and getting well and truly spanked by the AI-controlled WCW in terms of show ratings I think you may have jumped the gun with your 'sunk ship' conclusion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't played the mod this time around, so I can't comment on whether any of the recent comments are true or not. However just in response to the above, when judging mods it's best not to rely too much on the AI's ratings. WCW might be doing really well when run by the AI, but they play by a different set of rules than a real person so the two are not <em>really</em> comparable.</p><p> </p><p> As it happens, thats why I always playtest each promotion themselves - watchers are great for long-term testing, but in terms of actual promotion playability it can be a bit hit-and-miss.</p>

[edenborn]

I love this mod but I've been holding off on starting a game until the update Genadi was talking about on 10/13 and 10/15. Has that happened yet? Happy to wait if it's still yet to happen but I'm wondering if the update went through and I've simply missed it.

[Jaysin]

Genadi went Sgt AWOL on us again.

[edenborn]

I was wondering. Well, maybe he'll be back for X-mas. Think I'll hold off on my '97 game until then.

[Kryptonite]

<p>Has anyone found Aj Lee in this mod? ive checked under of course Aj Lee, April Mendez (sorry if its misspelled) and even Miss April, no luck i did manage to stumble upon Big E so i know it includes workers who debuted in the same era/timespan</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Edit: I to got spanked in ratings for awhile by WCW, especially when Steve Austin went down for 6 months due to a back injury he sustained the Raw before the first WM i held, (talk about a game changer as i had planed to have him win the tittle at that Mania...somehow still managed to squeak out an 88 which surprised me seeing as every show before that never eclipsed a 75)</p>

[Zero]

This is my favorite mod in the history of TEW. EWR had stellar mods. Right now though this works for me. It does have some kinks but you can always alter things yourself.

[edenborn]

This is my favorite mod in the history of TEW. EWR had stellar mods. Right now though this works for me. It does have some kinks but you can always alter things yourself.

I've been making those alterations and I've found most of the changes are pretty straightforward. Where I'm stuck is lifestyle changes. The consensus is that workers are too strongly penalized by drugs and alcohol but I'm at a loss for just how much to reduce those numbers.

 

Would dropping each by 10 points do the trick? Too little? Too much?