Hive Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone know when the debut angle for The Giant was? I know his first match was at Halloween Havoc, but I can't seem to find his actual debut anywhere. <p> </p><p> Was it before or after the first Nitro? I know he starts off as a member of the roster in the data.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His first appearance was at Bash at The Beach 1995. He attacked Hogan from time to time after matches and in angles before his debut.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franticloser Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I remember him showing up in the audence a few times before that to. I had a VHS of a Superbrawl, where they show him, and speculate on who he could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>His first appearance was at Bash at The Beach 1995. He attacked Hogan from time to time after matches and in angles before his debut.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was? I don't remember that.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It was? I don't remember that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm fairly sure it was the first time he actually interacted with Hogan, though I have no idea when he first appearing in the crowds as described by franticloser.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 <p>Few things I've noticed from my ECW save. Currently in Week 2 of October.</p><p> </p><p> ECW Save Notes:</p><p> - Raven became booker of IWF, while this might be realistic to his capabilities I feel as if he should be set to loyal to ECW or something to make him not become booker for others and only work PPA for them.</p><p> - Is there a reason 911 is and gets the recommended push of Authority Figure? I just don't know enough without doing a bit of research, thought I'd point it out.</p><p> - Speaking of which, AAA guys like Misterio Jr and the likw did work Hardcore TV matches and can't here. Not much you can do about it though, other then setting my TV to tape on a different day; which I did, just a note for you though.</p><p> - Terry Funk wouldn't work a 1v1 ECW title Match with hardcore settings against Sandman at the first event because of his physical condition being all yellow. Thus just the singles match only garnered a 59 rating, what would fix this?</p><p> - Trying to figure out a way to better accomodate ECW's product, they almost need their own match type to be honest. Just been setting more normal people to non-brawl or hardcore based matches or they start bitching. However much of ECW had interference, run-ins, and weapons without DQ.</p><p> - December to Dismember is not ECW's PPV that was WWE's incarnation, I changed mine to Holiday Hell; Gangstaz Paradise should be Sept. 95 and I changed a few others to suit and also give me 12 months (1 per) worth of events</p><p> - Paul Heyman should have a hatred or strong dislike of Bill Watts.</p><p> - Starting to wonder if ECW should be at war with more people (WCW?) Wish there were more options for talent trade available right now, domestically (WWF) and otherwise but thats just from a lack of promotions and talent. However I definitely think ECW could use more hostility pacts across the United States, perhaps with feds engaged in the regional battle.</p><p> </p><p> Game Notes:</p><p> - Had to move Anarchy Rulez to Saturday in order to accomodate one of the Steiner's last bookings with ECW in my game as they signed with NJPW. Funny, but no big deal. Just trying to use them to do one job on a big show, had them win one tag match, and lose dirty to the eliminations in the build up to a raven/richards tag title match after their interference then putting them through tables afterwards. This change then ****ed up New Jack being able to be booked on the show as he had just signed a PPA deal with USWA, didn't realize until the day; oh well.</p><p> - Forgot to take off catering and no-smoking or drugs rules backstage, sure that went over well for the first two weeks lmao. But I guess the free food may have battled the difference <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> - Beluah doesn't work as paired with Raven</p><p> - Francise doesn't work while being paired with only Pitbull #1</p><p> - Set Chubby Duddley to be the other Duddley's managers if he's not wrestling as he has the ability, just as a did with a few other folks to give certain people the rub they need. However Chubby Duddley and Duddley Duddley have bad chemistry as such.</p><p> - Adding onto that, I'm adding as many talent trades as I can to get the rub and as much credibility as possible within reason (trying to use guys who would fit, like how Lawler crossed over in real life). This means I now have a working agreement setup with both WWF starting in October, gonna see how this plays out once they wanna steal someone lmao.</p><p> - Rey Misterio broke his jaw against his dad in AAA, working through the injury though</p><p> - SMW sent me a hostile promotion relationship pact during Week 1 of October, beat me to it; love it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>ECW Save Notes:<p> - Raven became booker of IWF, while this might be realistic to his capabilities I feel as if he should be set to loyal to ECW or something to make him not become booker for others and only work PPA for them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But that might also prevent him from taking bookings from anyone else, won't it? And won't it prevent him from being snatched up on a written by WCW or WWF, as he did in real life?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Is there a reason 911 is and gets the recommended push of Authority Figure? I just don't know enough without doing a bit of research, thought I'd point it out.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Speaking of which, AAA guys like Misterio Jr and the likw did work Hardcore TV matches and can't here. Not much you can do about it though, other then setting my TV to tape on a different day; which I did, just a note for you though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AAA TV will be moved to Tuesdays.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Terry Funk wouldn't work a 1v1 ECW title Match with hardcore settings against Sandman at the first event because of his physical condition being all yellow. Thus just the singles match only garnered a 59 rating, what would fix this?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a bit tougher to fix, but I'll try boosting his physical stats. Not quite accurate perhaps, but might be the only way to have him do all those hardcore matches well into his pension age.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Trying to figure out a way to better accomodate ECW's product, they almost need their own match type to be honest. Just been setting more normal people to non-brawl or hardcore based matches or they start bitching. However much of ECW had interference, run-ins, and weapons without DQ.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't quite know what to do about this, leaving it as it is for now.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- December to Dismember is not ECW's PPV that was WWE's incarnation, I changed mine to Holiday Hell; Gangstaz Paradise should be Sept. 95 and I changed a few others to suit and also give me 12 months (1 per) worth of events</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not true, ECW ran December to Dismember as a non-PPV supercard in 1995. WWE then later brought it back.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Paul Heyman should have a hatred or strong dislike of Bill Watts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Strong dislike relationship added.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Starting to wonder if ECW should be at war with more people (WCW?) Wish there were more options for talent trade available right now, domestically (WWF) and otherwise but thats just from a lack of promotions and talent. However I definitely think ECW could use more hostility pacts across the United States, perhaps with feds engaged in the regional battle.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure what the basis for this would be, as I can see they shared workers with a lot of other regional promotions back then. I know WCW often raided ECW, but if I put in an actual war I'm afraid they'll get crushed...</p><p> </p><p> Once again thanks for your reports!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 With regards to ECW/WCW, maybe hostility rather than at war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With regards to ECW/WCW, maybe hostility rather than at war.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd agree with hostility to start, as well as for hostile towards any companies still in the NWA; as well as maybe Bill Watts' promotion? etc.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd agree with hostility to start, as well as for hostile towards any companies still in the NWA; as well as maybe Bill Watts' promotion? etc.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ECW/WCW hostility has been added.</p><p> </p><p> A hostility relationship between ECW and NWA-NJ, where president Dennis Coraluzzo reigned, was already included.</p><p> </p><p> Bill Watts... he had no promotion at this time, did he...? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>ECW/WCW hostility has been added.<p> </p><p> A hostility relationship between ECW and NWA-NJ, where president Dennis Coraluzzo reigned, was already included.</p><p> </p><p> Bill Watts... he had no promotion at this time, did he...? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Which one of yours is better/latest updated Hive? '94 or '95? I feel like playing in this time period.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Which one of yours is better/latest updated Hive? '94 or '95? I feel like playing in this time period.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Currently '94. But if you prefer this one, I can release a small update that brings it up to the same level as '94. Whenever applicable, I do fixes for both mods at the same time - I just don't always do releases at the same time.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mikey Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That would be awesome. Was going to start a game with this today but I'll wait for the small update if you decide to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 <p>And so, it came to be...</p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:36px;">WoTW 1.07 has arrived!</span></p><p> </p><p> Download link in the first post.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca87 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 <p>i can not seem to get the new update to work. </p><p> </p><p> is it just my lame computer or anyone else having this problem?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="macca87" data-cite="macca87" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i can not seem to get the new update to work. <p> </p><p> is it just my lame computer or anyone else having this problem?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Something was wrong with the download link I was provided, it should be fixed now.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And so, it came to be...<p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:36px;">WoTW 1.07 has arrived!</span></p><p> </p><p> Download link in the first post.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You didn't have to do that but thank you Hive!</p><p> </p><p> How is the mod for future debuting workers? Is it as up to date as the 1991 mod? "Just"'s is the only one I've really been playing. I only hesitate to use others as the debuting workers scares me. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Gosh this looks so good though. 1995 was such a fun year... pretty much when I started watching wrestling again after a 3 year off. Diesel, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Shawn Michaels.... soon we'd have Mankind, Hunter Hearst Helmsely, and Kane not to mention Rocky Maivia and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Then of course the older guys arent TOO old to still do something with. I've always wondered what I could do with a WWF that got some of their talent back. What would it have been like with Ric Flair, Jake Roberts, Big Bossman, Sting, Mr. Perfect, British Bulldog and Roddy Piper thrown in with these younger guys? ahhhhh just in love with all the storyline ideas.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How is the mod for future debuting workers? Is it as up to date as the 1991 mod? "Just"'s is the only one I've really been playing. I only hesitate to use others as the debuting workers scares me. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well he based his 1991 off of one of the earlier versions of my 1994, so I'd wager the future workers doesn't look significantly different... of course, there has been changes and additions with both mods since then - but I wouldn't expect any major differences in that regard.</p><p> </p><p> What is it about them that scare you?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well he based his 1991 off of one of the earlier versions of my 1994, so I'd wager the future workers doesn't look significantly different... of course, there has been changes and additions with both mods since then - but I wouldn't expect any major differences in that regard.<p> </p><p> What is it about them that scare you?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have a paranoia I will get years down the road and have missed out on some workers... haha. It's pretty dumb. I'm obsessed with keeping it as realistic as possible as a sim can be.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hive, the man! Keep up the hard work. Thanks for the update, gonna fire up a new 95 game sometime later this week perhaps. I'll keep notes for ya <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a paranoia I will get years down the road and have missed out on some workers... haha. It's pretty dumb. I'm obsessed with keeping it as realistic as possible as a sim can be.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah... so you're afraid I'm missing important workers? Well, I can't claim that I have *every* worker debuting between 1995 and 2014 - but I'd be surprised if any of the "big" ones are missing. And of course, if you notice someone you find important not being in there, I'm always open to suggestions for additions!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hive, the man! Keep up the hard work. Thanks for the update, gonna fire up a new 95 game sometime later this week perhaps. I'll keep notes for ya <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sounds good!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And so, it came to be...<p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:36px">WoTW 1.07 has arrived!</span></p><p> </p><p> Download link in the first post.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just because i fired up a 1.06 game yesterday <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Just because i fired up a 1.06 game yesterday It's true, that was my motivation. In reality, the changes aren't *that* many... mostly minor tweaks and corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ah... so you're afraid I'm missing important workers? Well, I can't claim that I have *every* worker debuting between 1995 and 2014 - but I'd be surprised if any of the "big" ones are missing. And of course, if you notice someone you find important not being in there, I'm always open to suggestions for additions!</div></blockquote><p> I cross-referenced the future workers with the nGo pack, and there weren't any big names missing that I could find. The biggest was probably Paige, but I imagine a very very small percentage of players will ever get far enough for her to debut.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I cross-referenced the future workers with the nGo pack, and there weren't any big names missing that I could find. The biggest was probably Paige, but I imagine a very very small percentage of players will ever get far enough for her to debut.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've never cared for the divas except as valets. I doubt I would use her. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never cared for the divas except as valets. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're a horrible person that should watch SHIMMER and learn something <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> Cheerleader Melissa for example is in my opinion one of the best wrestlers around, male or female. I'm not actually mad and I know women's wrestlers aren't everyone's thing, but a lot of them are more talented than a lot of the men out there in the spotlight.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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