The Official ThunderVerse Discussion Thread

[MJStark]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Changing the way you approach workers can also help. Maybe Timothy Hawk doesn't do much for you if you use him akin to Hulk Hogan or John Cena. But make him a Diamond Dallas Page with a better look, or Steve Austin minus the attitude, and it can alter how you use him significantly. It opens up story possibilities that you may not see.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He's always been the white Rock in my (admittedly few) AWF games. On the other hand he worked really well as an adulterous cocky authority figure in women's promotion owned by Lois Paige...</p><p> </p><p> really good point well made BP <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[MJStark]

<p>Another way I find works for me getting into a promotion is to think first about my user character. I have a look through the listings until I decided who I want to be, and based on the general attitude, ect of whoever I pick will often dictate the direction I take a promotion in.</p><p> </p><p>

For example, in my GAW diary Jack America was a bit of a fan-boy and so it was all about showcasing the legends. If I'd picked a legend to take over (Rudy Single for example) it would have been far more about them trying to have one last run of glory. For me, the player character often makes or breaks a game.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

He's always been the white Rock in my (admittedly few) AWF games. On the other hand he worked really well as an adulterous cocky authority figure in women's promotion owned by Lois Paige...

 

really good point well made BP

 

The Rock is the other one I should have mentioned. That's a connection that works brilliantly. Massively charismatic, great star quality, and capable of telling a really good story in the ring even if he's not a great overall worker. Really just a solid brawler. Dial down the arrogance a bit, at least based on his gimmick. But the fun, charismatic, catch-phrase dropping people's champ? Hell yeah that works.

 

As long as you aren't trying to say "this person is exactly this real worker", then your options are very very open. Take someone like Drake Richards. Its easy to point to him and think "Shawn Michaels". But Chris Jericho also works. How about a Brian Pillman who never got slowed by injuries and got that push to the top? Maybe he's a pretty boy version of Daniel Bryan. A bigger Austin Aries. A highly flying Ric Flair. A more dynamic CM Punk. Randy Savage minus the Macho Man. You could go so many different directions, and each take would result in you using Richards in a slightly different way.

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nor I, to be honest. But your description of seeking out GAW talent fits the TNA approach pretty well. Looking at their current roster, even now.<p> </p><p> Jon, I can suggest one that thing that has worked for me. Depending on how you approach fictional companies and workers, it may not make a difference. Personally, I usually connect a company to a real company. It helps me get a feel for how the shows would look, feel, flow, etc. It might just be me, but I find I connect with a company much better when I have that real feel for them. Its the same thing with workers, and I will often find a real worker to link them to so that I can more easily conceive of what their in-ring work looks like, how do their promos flow, etc. Its a process that stems out of diary writing but I do it for most games as it helps keep them from becoming "input-output" processes. </p><p> </p><p> An easy example would be connecting the AWF to the Attitude Era. The product fits fairly close. You can easily book them as a slightly less crash TV version of the 1997-1998 WWF. Or even the post-Attitude Era. But switching it up to being a variation on some mid-90s point of WCW, or even a better version of TNA, could make for a very different game.</p><p> </p><p> Changing the way you approach workers can also help. Maybe Timothy Hawk doesn't do much for you if you use him akin to Hulk Hogan or John Cena. But make him a Diamond Dallas Page with a better look, or Steve Austin minus the attitude, and it can alter how you use him significantly. It opens up story possibilities that you may not see.</p><p> </p><p> Changing up how I look at and use workers is something I've done a few times and it can really fresh things. It makes a game with the same company, same roster, etc, feel unique compared to the previous one.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll totally try look at guys a bit differently next time I pick up AWF, decided to try my luck with HCG. I know I already had my real world comparisons the first time around but I'll see guys differently on the second go ahead.</p><p> </p><p> As for HCG, I already used a few of their guys on AWF, Caleb Adonis, Chad Zuma, Fargo Korben and Lenny Rhodes so it should be fun</p>

[mitsukaikira]

<p>The one thing I always do when playing SWF is turn Timothy Hawk heel. Give him an arrogant, condescending attitude gimmick and appropriate heelish picture change. </p><p> </p><p>

Envision a white, privileged Razor Ramon who plays up the jerk angle as good as Hall played the Cuban angle.</p><p> </p><p>

That's money.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll totally try look at guys a bit differently next time I pick up AWF, decided to try my luck with HCG. I know I already had my real world comparisons the first time around but I'll see guys differently on the second go ahead.<p> </p><p> As for HCG, I already used a few of their guys on AWF, Caleb Adonis, Chad Zuma, Fargo Korben and Lenny Rhodes so it should be fun</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Keep us up to date on how you get on with HGC.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The one thing I always do when playing SWF is turn Timothy Hawk heel. Give him an arrogant, condescending attitude gimmick and appropriate heelish picture change. <p> </p><p> Envision a white, privileged Razor Ramon who plays up the jerk angle as good as Hall played the Cuban angle.</p><p> </p><p> That's money.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've never actually pulled the trigger on the heel turn, but I've planned on it where he would, using more of an "I'm a Hollywood star" dynamic. But yeah, would make for an epic heel turn. Especially as Hawk seems like a guy who has probably spent most, if not all of his career as a babyface. </p><p> </p><p> Hawk used to be someone I found bland at first with the AWF. I have slowly come to really REALLY appreciate his versatility of usage. It helps that his skills have improved in the last few versions of the Tverse and he's had some engaging canon storylines as well.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

I really loved the Hawk/Cross feud I had (after I finally elevated Cross high enough, Hawk turned into a more Sting version of himself (thanks to the facepaint avatar) and Cross was just awesome. Gave me my best 93 match. Anywho, I'll be starting up HCG soon, just getting my documents ready for it.

[Jon The GOAT]

Got started with HCG. Decided to pick up Brian King as my user character and head booker of Jerry King's company and with that comes his obvious push. He isn't really all that talented but we'll see if he's talented enough to make a climb to the top of the roster. Going to turn him heel, and I'm debating rather to pull Jerry King from commentary to be his manager or not. At least temporarily enough to help establish Brian's mic skills further and keep him in good segments. I can totally see him joining up with the Money's soon afterwards too, they'll be respectively making a climb for the card. Neither seem ultra talented but it seems an idea ripe for development. Brian King's first victim will probably be Famous C, not sure if it'll be done on the first show or if I'll develop the heel turn, pray the gimmick change goes well too.

 

As far as the main event scene goes, Herculez will immediately lay claim to the HCG Hollywood championship after a short feud with Big Bubba, though I don't trust either of them to stay in the long run, as long as Herculez is here, he'll be treated as our Brock Lesnar equivalent. Otherwise, just taking everything show by show.

 

Gonna quickly try to hustle forth towards a TV deal since a sports entertainment company is way easier to deal with in that fashion, though I'm not sure how wise that is with a regional-sized company. A PPV deal would be nice, anything that gets me closer to a 4 shows, 1 PPV format.

[Bigpapa42]

<p>You could have King join up with the Money stable as way to build him up, then get "too big" for them before going on his own. At which point, father and son will "take over" the company together. </p><p> </p><p>

The Tverse offers a pretty solid diversity of broadcast options but not sure you will get on PPV with a regional company. I don't tend to run smaller companies than mid-level cult so I'm not much of an expert.</p>

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Tverse offers a pretty solid diversity of broadcast options but not sure you will get on PPV with a regional company. I don't tend to run smaller companies than mid-level cult so I'm not much of an expert.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I believe that cult is the minimum size you can get onto PPV with, and that it is built into the game rather than being something we can tweak ourselves. I may be wrong though.</p>

[titlebelt]

Had a chance to look through the data for the first time, Porkchop Biscuit Sr. & Jr. may be the best names ever.

 

Looks like I'm going to give AWF a try. Still learning the workers and history and such but will probably book the first month at some point today.

[jhd1]

Just so no-one misses it, MJ has set up a diary thread which is the latest in our hype features for ThunderVerse Vice. The thread can be found at the link below:-

 

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531273

[NoNeck]

Keep us up to date on how you get on with HGC.

 

I've never actually pulled the trigger on the heel turn, but I've planned on it where he would, using more of an "I'm a Hollywood star" dynamic. But yeah, would make for an epic heel turn. Especially as Hawk seems like a guy who has probably spent most, if not all of his career as a babyface.

 

Hawk used to be someone I found bland at first with the AWF. I have slowly come to really REALLY appreciate his versatility of usage. It helps that his skills have improved in the last few versions of the Tverse and he's had some engaging canon storylines as well.

 

 

In my game (where I'm now halfway through 2017) I finally got to the point where I turned Timothy Hawk. I treated it like Hogan's NWO heel turn, rolling the PWSUX invasion angle into a battle between Prophecy and Skym's camps that lasted for more than two years. The whole time, the actual person behind the invasion and the "real" brains behind Prophecy's heel faction stayed cloudy, with allusions to it being Silva Dolla crushed when he came to the aid of Drake Richards against the group he was thought to be aligned with. It all culminated with a face Drake Richards topping face Timothy Hawk and finally winning the AWF title at WF after Hawk's near two year title run. It went from a mutual respect thing between the two into friends that were on a collision course because they were the most obvious top two in the company. As the match finished, and the Eddie Guerrero becomes champ scene unfolded, Hawk destroyed his now former friend, claiming that in the process of his climb to the title, Richards had made the fans forget about who Tim Hawk was and how important he has been to the AWF. He then cemented everything by claiming to be the real man behind the PWSUX invasion and the brains of Prophecy's faction. He got over so much that it was all I could do to not just hotshot the belt back to him a month later. I held off for over a year while he and Richards both climbed to A* pop and carried the company to national status. I kept them apart except for tag matches and angles and got all sorts of people over in the process, just by proximity.

 

There's tons more story, like AWF's raid of top PWI talent that now has them in a distinct number two position, and Eli Morton's Lesnar-esque run at the top under the watchful eye of Guy Lothario, but that's for another day, I'd suppose. Just wanted to weigh in on the Hawk turn. It's worth it in the long run; he really is the straw that stirs the drink in AWF.

[Mike7273]

That is awesome!

 

I've had Mr Hawaii as a top Face for a while. He just won the World Title from Timothy Hawk by joining Icons Unlimited (VIP, Theo Barkley, and Miss Valentina) and getting the interference from VIP. This is moving into a feud between Hawaii and Drake Richards who is the new #1 Contender.

[NoNeck]

That is awesome!

 

I've had Mr Hawaii as a top Face for a while. He just won the World Title from Timothy Hawk by joining Icons Unlimited (VIP, Theo Barkley, and Miss Valentina) and getting the interference from VIP. This is moving into a feud between Hawaii and Drake Richards who is the new #1 Contender.

 

I've slowly built Mr. Hawaii (who I re-dubbed D-Lo Kai) into one of my top guy's in waiting. He's solid gold and having him in a faction with VIP, Silva Dolla, and Theo Barkley before having him go solo helped both his development and his overness immensely. Plus, having him squash Barkley on his way out (with the help of good chemistry) gave him a good boost in momentum.

 

It's hard to not see him as The Rock, but there are worse problems to have. The guy is gold across the board and will probably be the face of my AWF in 2018.

[SteelCityCaesar]

I've just had great fun in an feud with Acuatico and Wilson Hancock. I've pushed Wilson Hancock pretty hard in my custom federation as he was one of the best people to be had when I started the game. Acuatico is a recent steal from CLLM (I'm sandboxing a little when it comes to who can work where, it is my game afterall!).

 

Anyway, the story was Hancock had been calling Acuatico out saying the reason he wore the mask was because he was so ugly underneath (Hancock has a bit of Tyler Breeze vibe in my game). After Acuatico's first PPV match, Hancock attacked and injured him so Acuatico was kayfabe off TV for a while.

 

Every week Hancock would cut a promo promising the fans Acuatico was coming back and he was going them all a look under his mask only to have somebody (or something) ridiculous come to the ring with Acuatico's mask on - there was an old lady one week, then a baby, a dwarf, a chimpanzee, a dog and finally a horse with mask stretched over its hind quarters. In the last week, much to Hancock's shock, it was the real Acuatico and Hancock has to escape through the crowd.

 

It culminated in a mask vs hair match at my end of season PPV and Hancock ended up getting the Brutus The Barber treatment. The match itself got a 94 (A) and I even made a Wilson Hancock with a shaved head alt to use for the next few months.

 

Great fun all around!

[Big Roguey]

I've just had great fun in an feud with Acuatico and Wilson Hancock. I've pushed Wilson Hancock pretty hard in my custom federation as he was one of the best people to be had when I started the game. Acuatico is a recent steal from CLLM (I'm sandboxing a little when it comes to who can work where, it is my game afterall!).

 

Anyway, the story was Hancock had been calling Acuatico out saying the reason he wore the mask was because he was so ugly underneath (Hancock has a bit of Tyler Breeze vibe in my game). After Acuatico's first PPV match, Hancock attacked and injured him so Acuatico was kayfabe off TV for a while.

 

Every week Hancock would cut a promo promising the fans Acuatico was coming back and he was going them all a look under his mask only to have somebody (or something) ridiculous come to the ring with Acuatico's mask on - there was an old lady one week, then a baby, a dwarf, a chimpanzee, a dog and finally a horse with mask stretched over its hind quarters. In the last week, much to Hancock's shock, it was the real Acuatico and Hancock has to escape through the crowd.

 

It culminated in a mask vs hair match at my end of season PPV and Hancock ended up getting the Brutus The Barber treatment. The match itself got a 94 (A) and I even made a Wilson Hancock with a shaved head alt to use for the next few months.

 

Great fun all around!

 

I really really like the idea of the continually Acuatico roll-out.

[jhd1]

Great fun all around!

 

Fantastic idea, Caesar! Sounds like a lot of fun to book too

[titlebelt]

Just finished my first full month and first PPV with AWF. Shockwave has been fairly steady:

 

Week 1: 81

Week 2: 83

Week 3: 80

Week 4: 79

 

I think the grades slipped on the last two Shockwaves since I was pretty much giving straight victories to the top of the card to get ready for the PPV.

 

All through the month of August there's been back-and-forth between Hawk and Richards, but most of the angles scored 78-80 range so I was getting worried about the Main Event at Uprising. But they certainly delivered, with an 88 Main Event which helped drive the show to 86 overall. Semi-Main was just as good, an 87-rated tag win for Giroux & Silva Dolla over Immortal Warrior & Core.

 

The highest rated angle was an 88, Towerblock being maddeningly menacing in the backstage area. After Hawk retained the title he was attacked by Dolla (which only did a 77) as that's where I want to go for September.

 

I've only had one starlets match during the entire month (Megan winning the title from Amy at the PPV). I established Kitty Reardon as the GM of the starlets division at the beginning of the month. Casey Skym and Prophecy, however, have made a shady agreement to help each other keep Reardon's division down. The gimmick has been to keep having starlets matches get interrupted before they start, putting the female workers in non-rated angles with either Skym or Prophecy (or both) on the mic booking a men's match instead. Been fun and a good way to involve a lot of different workers in angles.

 

Cross has been great on the mic as long as I let him go off-script. He just dropped the US title to Nick Hart in a three-way (also involving Patriot) at the PPV but I'm going to focus on building Cross & Hart while bringing overlooked Derrick Rollins into the storyline to give Patriot something to do.

 

Thinking of having Giroux start a stable and turn the New California Blondes to be his goons.

 

Thinking of firing KISS and some of the negative personality starlets (Alexis, Amy & Claudia) to help with the shaky backstage situation. Garrett South already failed a steroids test and Klaxon was popped for soft drugs already in the first month so the backstage is still under 70% even after the good PPV and with good backstage rules.

 

Signed: Cloud James, Mr. Hawaii, Fargo Korben

 

Formed a new alliance with Pro Wrestling HONOUR and was going to have Kenta Sonoda come over for sporadic appearances but it's nearly $80,000/appearance plus $20k administration fee so going to have to be more careful with that. Their current champion, Atonga, is only $11,235/appearance plus $2.8k admin fee.

 

Amy dropped Merengue as her manager (she still manages him, though).

 

Silva Dolla fired Ieshia (bad chemistry) and has since been seen backstage in different segments with Jazz, Helen Noir, Harmony and Claudia as he thinks about his next move.

[Jon The GOAT]

I bailed on HCG and have tried Paragon of Wrestling, we'll see how long I last with them. POW feels basically like ThunderVerse's CHIKARA and I'll probably be pushing the Hero/Villain thing further and turning it into it's very own sort of universe. I thought about taking Wrestlesaurus too but ultimately went with POW. No real aspirations beyond just having a fun little set of absurd shows.

 

I've noticed that beyond Sangoma (who I've chosen as my user character), no one else in the company has anything close to decent mic work. They're all 60s and below. So far I'll be building up Sangoma for a clash against W.M.D. which should be real huge, cant wait for it.

 

Anyone unemployed you think would fit nice in POW?

[Jon The GOAT]

First Paragons of Wrestling show is up;

 

POW Target W.M.D. was at the Northern Lights Club in front of a sold out crowd of 300 people.

 

The titular story of this show focuses on the 57th Airbourne Squadron, Amelia Winghart and Wing Commander Westminster whom having won the Clash of the TRItans (with retired athlete Debbie Monroe), earned the coordinates for the W.M.D. from Referee Tiny Jackson. Their ETA? The Main Event. (55) We came back to them later in the show to continue their journey towards the location (56) and finally arrived in the main event, a triple thread match for the POW Grand Championship. The 57th Airbourne Squadron bombed into W.M.D. but it proved far too powerful and their arsenal simply wasn't up to par with their target, in the end W.M.D. overwhelmed the newer member Amelia Winghart to score the pinfall and retain the POW Grand title and the threat of dominance over Paragons of Wrestling. (47)

 

Jeff Starfield and FinEATo who recently beat Frightening and Scaremare for the POW Sidekick titles were set to defend in the inevitable rematch when suddenly, FinEATo seemed to freak out on Starfield and turned on him to give Frightening and Scaremare the belts (29), after the match FinEATo inexplicably continued beating down Starfield in a crazed act much to the dismay of the crowd (7) kidding they didn't really care. Will we find out why he commited such a crime next month? Has FinEATo finally realized who Jeff Starfield truly is O_o

 

Discotheque faced Meet the Patels in a tremendous match, halfway through, Discotheque challenged the Patels to a dance off and brought for their brand of disco, the Patels returned with some bollywood dancing that simply wasn't up to the crowd's taste, ultimately, Discotheque's superior moves allowed them to pick up the victory over the Patels in a simple fun match. (36)

 

In a less optimistic match, Sangom destroyed Miss Behavin' (27) before claiming that he will slowly eviscerate all of our heroes, who will be able to stop him, tune in next time on Dragon Ball-err Paragon of Wrestling! (56)

 

The Jock Squad and Frat Boys met early in the show to quickly realize they're pretty much the exact same, and that there was only room for two of them in this company and thus challenged each other to a duel (30), The Jock Squad defeated The Frat Boys though there was an intense feeling of lack of chemistry within the Jock Squad, and there's no way a Jock Squad can succeed without chemistry (22), will they be able to continue together?

 

Lastly, Adam Hart beat up El Hot Dog and Earl Ray Travis, because. (24) We also discovered that the only thing Earl Ray Travis is supposed to be good at; selling, he sucks at, so that's that.

 

Final rating is a 46, had fun with this show with some mainly on the fly booking.

 

We went head to head with FKPW (44), ILL (63), WCCW (45), Wrestlesaurus X (50)

 

Next Month? POW Target W.M.D.: Kamikaze Edition - Wing Commander Westminster does everything to avenge Wingheart, we find out why FinEATo attacked Jeff Starfield, The Jock Squad has issues, Frat Boys face off against Frightening and Scaremare, and much more, I think.

[titlebelt]

I'm into November 2014 with AWF. Man, the backstage has been brutal to deal with. Every week it's been something. It's currently at 53%, even after I fired Klaxon, KISS, Merengue, Marcus Studd and Alexis. Studd failed three drug tests , Klaxon two, Cool Chris one for hard drugs, then Chris smashed up Core's rental car. Mr. Hawaii has heat with the entire backstage. I wish I had given myself a little more leadership at the start of the game.

 

With two tag-teams being disbanded through the firings, I brought back Military Discipline. They're just having their first matches back in November. Jean-Claude Giroux & Cloud James have great tag chemistry so they have become the Roughhouse Riders, and Jack America & Fargo Korben are the Young Guns (and current champs). I also signed Matt & Mike Gibson who are in our new developmental fed.

 

Timothy Hawk still has the AWF World title. He finished a successful series with The Ghost Rider in October who I brought in on loan from CWT (CWT joined the Alliance we formed with Pro Wrestling HONOUR). Giroux is Hawk's main opponent until the new year. Drake Richards has dropped out of the world title melee for the time being to take up Giroux's spot against Immortal Warrior.

 

Cross has both the US and TV titles, having won both in a ladders match at The Hollywood Horror Show against Nick Hart, Patriot & Derrick Rollins.

 

Starlets division is still dying. Megan still champ but has only made one title defense. There have only been two starlets matches in three months of Shockwaves and PPVs. A frustrated Kitty Reardon left her role as Starlets GM to manage the Young Guns in an attempt to get back at Casey Skym & Prophecy.

 

Adrienne turned on Jack America and became Giroux's new manager. Giroux founded The Warhawks stable with Cloud James & Joe Havanna. Originally I was going to turn The New California Blondes to join this group but with all of the trouble Cool Chris is causing backstage I don't want to get started with something only to have to fire him too.

 

Shockwave is moving from Adrenaline network to Music Video Library.

 

Signed: Sylvain Charles, Tony Chi, Corporal Punishment & General Mayhem

 

Developmental: Amy, Chris Langlois, Claudia, Eldon B. Argyle, Hollywood Giant, Matt Gibson, Mike Gibson, Rampage, X

 

Probably going to bring in Cherokee Warrior to do some jobbing to upper midcarders and promising midcarders.

[Jon The GOAT]

Whenever I take anyone with sub-70 backstage, I just put 10 points into leadership, it's usually the first thing I check so I don't distribute my points till afterwards. Agreed that most of the guys you fired aren't worth keeping. I like Cool Chris and Mr. Hawaii but Mr. Hawaii has such horrible backstage influence that I feel he might not be worth keeping unless you decide to push him to the moon I guess.

 

Cloud James and Jean-Claude Giroux sounds like an oddball tag team lol, like such a contrast of backgrounds, I had Giroux as forever up in my main event with James as a more midcard based dude. But if they got good chemistry, I suppose you gotta take advantge of that. Jack America's your user character? Fargo Korben is always awesome though I've gotten around to pushing him. Sylvain Charles and the Gibsons sound like great additions to, Hollywood Giant is always awesome, you should check out Lenny Rhodes too if you haven't, he might fit in as a replacement for Cool Chris? Oh and I always find it fun to play up Adrienne's BF and bring him in too.

[titlebelt]

Yup, using Jack as my user character. The tag division is sort of wild west-y at the moment where guys are using it as a proving ground and having a number of straight-up fights so a guy like Giroux wanted in on the action & Cloud James is sort of his hired gun and they're going for it. Military Discipline have been rather disappointing so far, but they've had no build yet. I only have them on a one-year deal so if I can't get them going I won't be stuck with them for too long.

 

And I was just able to make my first poaching on PWI, bringing in James Gilmour-Hart who will team with Nick. The DaSilvas might be fun to bring in to start a long-term developmental program with the Gibsons. We'll see. I love having a thriving tag division. I've basically had to shut down the starlets division to do it though.

 

Yeah, I simply didn't realize how tough the backstage would be on default leadership. It's slowly getting better. Sylvain Charles, Tony Chi and Gilmour-Hart are positive influences, and I signed Beautiful Bobby (positive) to manage Drake Richards. Eventually Bobby will ditch Richards and make his way to Giroux just like Adrienne did. Should be fun.

 

Been making very good progress. Put the cap on Cult size as I'm just one region away from having 8 at 65 importance (and I have two sitting at 63). Once all 8 are at least 67 I'll bump up to National. Would like to get a B show so I could feature some of the starlets and give some wins to the guys lower down the card, but no one would go for it this round of negotiations.

[SWF Fan]

As my greatest creation, how do people find Johnny Hollywood? Never read that much of him yet I feel he was one of my better character creations