The Mod Squad

[Pepsil]

Why are both WWF Shows set as B-Show? Just a mistake or is there a reason? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[TsuMirren]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Justin" data-cite="Justin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another question, is there a reason that the NWA Florida Heavyweight Title is the only touring Alliance title?<p> </p><p> And yes, I know that certain offices had "control" over certain titles, specifically JCP and the World Title, but that is not to say that the belt didn't still travel at this time. Flair wrestled <em>everywhere</em> with that belt.</p><p> </p><p> So, I suppose my question is, was this done on purpose as a game mechanic? Or was it a personal preference thing, or what?</p><p> </p><p> Help a brother out.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I seem to recall watching a documentary or maybe I read it during hours of lucozade fuelled research that by 87 not much travelled or at least wasn't mostly controlled by JCP. It'd either have been the three part JCP glory days doc or one like that..a kayfabe commentary maybe. Anyway, I think it maybe makes sense at that point in time. Blame Genadi though. haha</p><p> </p><p> As for Pepsi, I think it's to allow some jobber use and not burn out/over use matches. Genadi tested that and the squad voted.</p>

[Pepsil]

<p>Alright, thanks, thought there was meant to be an A-Show. </p><p> </p><p>

Thank you all so much for making this, already my favourite mod. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[drcat123]

<p><a href="http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=4971" rel="external nofollow">http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=4971</a></p><p> </p><p>

Mick McMichael picture is here ^ he has no picture</p><p> </p><p>

dale preston can be set as king kendo picture. Since he took over the gimmick</p>

[lazorbeak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Justin" data-cite="Justin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another question, is there a reason that the NWA Florida Heavyweight Title is the only touring Alliance title?<p> </p><p> And yes, I know that certain offices had "control" over certain titles, specifically JCP and the World Title, but that is not to say that the belt didn't still travel at this time. Flair wrestled <em>everywhere</em> with that belt.</p><p> </p><p> So, I suppose my question is, was this done on purpose as a game mechanic? Or was it a personal preference thing, or what?</p><p> </p><p> Help a brother out.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> By 1987, the belt didn't travel all the time. Flair works one All Japan tour in 87, then doesn't work in a non-JCP/WCW event until 1990, when he makes a one-off appearance in AWA. If this was set in 83-84, it would definitely function better as an alliance title, but at this point and going forward, it works better as-is.</p>

[The Swanton825]

I noticed that several promotions have heels set as their figureheads, which doesn't make sense mechanically since figureheads are supposed to be the face of the company and main merchandise seller.

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theasylum" data-cite="theasylum" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It seems to me that a wrestler with a protege relationship with a worker who hasn't debuted is far more likely to still be alive than they are to die. As a player, I'd rather delete a relationship or two throughout the game than to have to add a hundred.<p> </p><p> Plus, what if Ric Flair dies in-game before Charlotte and Reid are born? I don't think that means the latter two should be removed from the data based on a "what if" scenario.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> While I don't disagree with what you're saying. I still think there are too many protege relationships in the game. When in doubt I always look to the default data as guidance on these matters. Just my two cents. Are there any instances of blood relatives also being proteges in the default data? As others said I think the blood relative relationship is enough but against just one guys opinion. </p><p> </p><p> Glad to see this out for everyone that worked on it. I hope you all get to sit back and enjoy the spoils of your hard work and hopefully some great dynasties pop up from this data here soon <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Justin" data-cite="Justin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another question, is there a reason that the NWA Florida Heavyweight Title is the only touring Alliance title?<p> </p><p> And yes, I know that certain offices had "control" over certain titles, specifically JCP and the World Title, but that is not to say that the belt didn't still travel at this time. Flair wrestled <em>everywhere</em> with that belt.</p><p> </p><p> So, I suppose my question is, was this done on purpose as a game mechanic? Or was it a personal preference thing, or what?</p><p> </p><p> Help a brother out.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> By 87 there was almost no traveling anymore. I think Flair works one or two events between 87 and 90 that aren't JCP/WCW events.</p>

[Justin]

Sold.

[mrwright86]

Noticed that the WWF Tag Team title history is missing the worker links. So for example the previous champions are the British Bulldogs but only Davey Boy Smith is listed as a champion, not Dynamite. Same with the Dream Team, it only lists Beefcake.

[Justin]

Ric Flair's potential is set to "very low."

[Consrvtve]

It may have been intentional but I thought HBKs star quality was a little low too.

[Lucas]

I noticed that several promotions have heels set as their figureheads, which doesn't make sense mechanically since figureheads are supposed to be the face of the company and main merchandise seller.

 

Back then, booking was different among different promoters where the booking was around a heel of the promotion rather than the face as Vince commonly liked to do. It reflects the booking of the time to have it this way. The fact that you say doesn't make sense 'mechanically' Adamistically reflects real life as it's exactly what happened and how Vince pulled away from all the other competition putting the cart before the Hogan horse.

[Lucas]

Noticed that the WWF Tag Team title history is missing the worker links. So for example the previous champions are the British Bulldogs but only Davey Boy Smith is listed as a champion, not Dynamite. Same with the Dream Team, it only lists Beefcake.

 

Will take a look at these.

 

Ric Flair's potential is set to "very low."

 

Potential affects their ability to grow in their attributes. As he's already at/passed his peak it makes little sense for this to be any higher than it already is. Play through with the data and let us know if you notice anything specific through gameplay. Picking at the potential rating when there's a destiny roll involved is quite anecdotal for us to act on. See how it plays

[The Swanton825]

Back then, booking was different among different promoters where the booking was around a heel of the promotion rather than the face as Vince commonly liked to do. It reflects the booking of the time to have it this way. The fact that you say doesn't make sense 'mechanically' Adamistically reflects real life as it's exactly what happened and how Vince pulled away from all the other competition putting the cart before the Hogan horse.

 

See that makes sense for promotions built around nepotism like WWA, but when I see Mark Rocco set as ASW's figurehead it seems strange since it would handicap them against Joint Promotions (which is the opposite of what happened IRL to my knowledge) and could have just as easily been left with no figurehead.

[Genadi]

Just woke up and will work on V1.1 today.

 

Agers aren't complete sorry it was part of the huge task of moving to nGo and we couldn't get them all done in time. They will be updated for future versions. All pics are there though so can easily be assigned for now as you progress through the years.

 

 

Thanks for all the feedback please keep this in mind when reporting any errors or suggestions for change

 

* We welcome feedback and suggestions, please try and provide details about what you'd like changed or tweaked with examples and reasoning

[Mattywood]

Just woke up and will work on V1.1 today.

 

Agers aren't complete sorry it was part of the huge task of moving to nGo and we couldn't get them all done in time. They will be updated for future versions. All pics are there though so can easily be assigned for now as you progress through the years.

 

 

Thanks for all the feedback please keep this in mind when reporting any errors or suggestions for change

 

See, I was wondering if it was a matter of things being transferred from the old KYKY days and what not. Glad to know what the scoop is.

 

And the last part about details with examples and reasoning works for me! I try my best to be as detailed as possible, so if at anytime I'm not giving enough details, just let me know.

[Mattywood]

Apologies for double posting, just noticed this minor hiccup: there seem to be two Sean Royals. One with one L, one with two. Seeing as that the one with one L has a contract with JCP, I guess stick with that one.

[jbergey_2005]

Great job you guys! Excellent work!

 

Just a quick question about the "B" shows. The more I think about this it seems like the correct way to do it. The WWF really didnt gain popularity from them shows it was the extra stuff like SNME, MTV and the WWF marketing machine that gained them popularity. In the tests did JCP jump out ahead because of having 2 A shows? And wont the WWF lose popularity fast without having an "A' show? Just trying to put my head around the #1 company in the world not having an "A' show.

[Jon The GOAT]

Do you guys have any plans on expanding the yet to debut guys?

[Justin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Potential affects their ability to grow in their attributes. As he's already at/passed his peak it makes little sense for this to be any higher than it already is. Play through with the data and let us know if you notice anything specific through gameplay. Picking at the potential rating when there's a destiny roll involved is quite anecdotal for us to act on. See how it plays <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, okay, that makes sense.</p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you guys have any plans on expanding the yet to debut guys?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <3 I started a R2G file on it. Admittedly TGA is well before my time so I'm more intrigued in seeing how different the game file turns out way down the line. Nevertheless, I got Joe Pedicino and he decided to donate 100K to the company which makes this an instant must-keep file. </p><p> </p><p> Looking forward to see what other workers you guys add in.</p>

[Genadi]

Double post sorry!

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>While I don't disagree with what you're saying. I still think there are too many protege relationships in the game. When in doubt I always look to the default data as guidance on these matters. Just my two cents. Are there any instances of blood relatives also being proteges in the default data? As others said I think the blood relative relationship is enough but against just one guys opinion. <p> </p><p> Glad to see this out for everyone that worked on it. I hope you all get to sit back and enjoy the spoils of your hard work and hopefully some great dynasties pop up from this data here soon <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A lot of wrestlers debut but then spend a year traIning.... We've set them to debut after training not before as the prior can't be replicated in Tew.... Therefore a lot workers have protégés as they debut.</p><p> </p><p> Hope you're enjoying Stennick thanks for the feedback <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>