[RELEASE] 1992: Eye of the Storm

YoungNoble · April 25, 2017

Small thing, but WCPW initials are listed as WCWP

Ty123 · April 25, 2017

- Scott Spangler should be in SMW under his Brian Matthews alter-ego. Same babyface correspondent gimmick.

- Corey Maclin should be in USWA with the babyface sportscaster gimmick. He's set not to debut until August '92, but going off YouTube he was already around in January.

- Create an alter-ego for Scott Armstrong. Record name (and worker name) Dixie Dy-No-Mite, moveset Scott Armstrong, gimmick Masked Grappler, New Mask, for company SMW. Not sure about usage percentage. I also cut an image of him in the gimmick:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2gsh9h4.jpg

- Add Rikki Nelson to SMW as an old school face. Also turn Tommy Angel heel in SMW with old school heel gimmick.

- Lex Luger was left out of the WCW guys given NJPW on-loan contracts. He also worked the Dome Show that year. On-loan 1 appearance for him as well.

- Also some gimmicks for workers in USWA are set to none. Going off their defaults, give Bart Sawyer old school face, Carl Fergie staff member/old school heel (corrupt official?), Chris Champion old school face, Danny Davis old school heel, Frank Morrell staff member/old school heel (corrupt official?) and Jerry Calhoun staff member.

- Add Hiroyoshi Tenzan to NJPW under his real name Hiroyoshi Yamamoto. Assuming he was a generic young boy at the time, so maybe heel no gimmick needed?

- Add Darryl Morris to SMW as a babyface referee, staff member gimmick. Rename Flash Morris.

Also, excellent work on 1991, probably my favorite mod for TEW 2016. I'm sure this will rival it once all is said and done <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Robtallica · April 26, 2017

Thanks

You Sir are a GOD!

Forky · April 27, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ty123" data-cite="Ty123" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Scott Spangler should be in SMW under his Brian Matthews alter-ego. Same babyface correspondent gimmick. - Corey Maclin should be in USWA with the babyface sportscaster gimmick. He's set not to debut until August '92, but going off YouTube he was already around in January. - Create an alter-ego for Scott Armstrong. Record name (and worker name) Dixie Dy-No-Mite, moveset Scott Armstrong, gimmick Masked Grappler, New Mask, for company SMW. Not sure about usage percentage. I also cut an image of him in the gimmick: http://i66.tinypic.com/2gsh9h4.jpg - Add Rikki Nelson to SMW as an old school face. Also turn Tommy Angel heel in SMW with old school heel gimmick. - Lex Luger was left out of the WCW guys given NJPW on-loan contracts. He also worked the Dome Show that year. On-loan 1 appearance for him as well. - Also some gimmicks for workers in USWA are set to none. Going off their defaults, give Bart Sawyer old school face, Carl Fergie staff member/old school heel (corrupt official?), Chris Champion old school face, Danny Davis old school heel, Frank Morrell staff member/old school heel (corrupt official?) and Jerry Calhoun staff member. - Add Hiroyoshi Tenzan to NJPW under his real name Hiroyoshi Yamamoto. Assuming he was a generic young boy at the time, so maybe heel no gimmick needed? - Add Darryl Morris to SMW as a babyface referee, staff member gimmick. Rename Flash Morris. Also, excellent work on 1991, probably my favorite mod for TEW 2016. I'm sure this will rival it once all is said and done <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Tommy Angel was a face in SMW. He was cannon fodder for Dutch and his boys. Scott's use of the Dixie character happened throughout 1992 until he started wrestling as himself.

YoungNoble · April 27, 2017

I just noticed that the NWA World Tag Team titles are set as a singles belt.

TsuMirren · April 27, 2017

I noticed in an old 91 set that Van Hammer is an 8 year pro in 91, yet he debuted in 91.

Mattywood · May 1, 2017

Teddy Long's heel and babyface performance both could use a boost. Right now they're only at the default 50. Ditto his Cocky and Wholesome rating.

Cody Rhodes could possibly use slight boosts to his Weasel, Crazy and Weird ratings.

CM Punk could use a boost to his heel performance rating.

Hive · May 1, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cody Rhodes could possibly use slight boosts to his Weasel, Crazy and Weird ratings. CM Punk could use a boost to his heel performance rating.</div></blockquote> Give them some room to grow, impatient Matt. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Oyaji · May 1, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Give them some room to grow, impatient Matt. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Don't gimmick ratings not change that much other than face/heel?

Jaysin · May 1, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't gimmick ratings not change that much other than face/heel?</div></blockquote> In previous version of TEW, gimmick ratings didn't change at all. Now they can improve the more a worker uses that type of gimmick.

Mattywood · May 1, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In previous version of TEW, gimmick ratings didn't change at all. Now they can improve the more a worker uses that type of gimmick.</div></blockquote> I honestly did not know that and somehow did not notice it in my playthroughs. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Well justtxyank, scrap what I said. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Speaking of CM Punk and room to grow, would you feel that his entertainment stats are a bit overpowered for him being a rookie? Granted, he should be 100 in everything. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> j/k But anyway, just some food for thought. Colt Cabana's entertainment stats maybe could use a slight lowering too.

Oyaji · May 1, 2017

In previous version of TEW, gimmick ratings didn't change at all. Now they can improve the more a worker uses that type of gimmick.

Excellent news and thanks for the information!

justtxyank · May 9, 2017

Update: Version 1.3 Released <a href="http://forum.wrestlingnexus.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=296" rel="external nofollow">Data V 1.3 (Links to wrestlingnexus)</a> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Version History: 1.3 Changelog -DiBiase family ties -WCW TV schedule adjustments -Picture assignments -Debbie Combs DOB -Fidel Sierra nationality -Von Erich tag team -Significant updates to Japan; AJPW pop and skills, Joshi skills and pop, etc. -A few arena updates -Female wrestler resilience adjustments -NJPW title histories -Missing TV shows -Added an hour to American wrestling shows to get more matches -SMW roster fixes -USWA roster cleanup -NJPW roster adjustments -Dixie Dy-no-mite -Heel/face adjustments -Gimmick adjustments -Cosmetic changes</div></blockquote>

ATN90 · May 10, 2017

Chris Champion, not Todd Champion, is the brother of Mark Starr. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/bios/c/chris-champion/" data-cite="http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/bios/c/chris-champion/" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Chris Champion’s brother is also a wrestler, former WCW jobber Mark Starr, who teamed with Chris Kanyon in “Men at Work”..</div></blockquote> And Brian Crabtree had no relationships.

HWRP · May 15, 2017

Downloaded 1.3 a few times and such changes like WCW TV and the missing Japanese TV deals still aren't included

justtxyank · May 15, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="HWRP" data-cite="HWRP" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Downloaded 1.3 a few times and such changes like WCW TV and the missing Japanese TV deals still aren't included</div></blockquote> The WCW tv taping schedule didn't get included somehow, but the tv deals did. Please check the "broadcasting deals" section in the editor and you should see deals for AJPW, NJPW, AJW on Fuji, etc. I'll release 1.4 to take care of the tv tapings whenever more fixes roll in (got the Champion brother fix as well)

HWRP · May 15, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The WCW tv taping schedule didn't get included somehow, but the tv deals did. Please check the "broadcasting deals" section in the editor and you should see deals for AJPW, NJPW, AJW on Fuji, etc. I'll release 1.4 to take care of the tv tapings whenever more fixes roll in (got the Champion brother fix as well)</div></blockquote> Thanks a lot for your swift & helpful reply! Look forward to the next fix, please keep up the great work with your mods!

smartman · May 29, 2017

I downloaded this just to look at it, and I'm wondering why some of the workers have exactly the same ratings they have in 1991. Mainly looking at Steve Austin, Ron Simmons, and the Steiners as they're guys you really need to push hard in WCW, and the former two are just lousy considering where they were on the card at that time. I'd put all 4 in development immediately. Austin should at least have C+ psych and selling, not 50's.

justtxyank · May 31, 2017

I downloaded this just to look at it, and I'm wondering why some of the workers have exactly the same ratings they have in 1991. Mainly looking at Steve Austin, Ron Simmons, and the Steiners as they're guys you really need to push hard in WCW, and the former two are just lousy considering where they were on the card at that time. I'd put all 4 in development immediately. Austin should at least have C+ psych and selling, not 50's.

As always I'm willing to look at workers, but maybe you have too high an opinion of some guys. "average" selling is 51 or so. I don't agree with you I guess that the Steiners were good at selling. In fact I'd argue that they didn't sell in 99% of their matches.

I probably will increase Steve Austin's stats, but Ron Simmons is another guy that as far as being a worker I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with you that he should have good selling or psychology.

In general if you are hoping to get a bunch of A matches with guys who were barely over you are probably better off with a different mod. Note that skills like charisma and star quality help A LOT with match quality. These guys are all averaging C+ matches for 92 in the current data.

Like I said though, I'll look at their skills again. If other people want to chime in on that, let me know.

smartman · June 1, 2017

Oh dear, beware the rant. This has nothing to do specifically with this mod, or you personally (and I still love the 91 mod very, very much). (See much longer rant in the 2013 mod guide)

No, the average selling in the game is not, nor has it ever been 51. The game is crystal clear on this. It's a simple pass/fail system. If you have psych or selling of 66.0, then you can call in the ring and sell adequately (it does need to be higher the higher the match rating gets but with the change Adam made to the psych penalty it isn't as severe a penalty as it was), but if you're at 65.9 or 25.2, you are, by the game's standards, the same garbage seller and incompetent at telling a story in the ring. This 0-100 scale and the human brain seeing that and automatically determining that 50 is average since that's the mathematical definition of the term average has been a long-running issue.

So again, you can put them at 64 selling and it is the same as 51 selling as they're both considered bad, except of course, they might improve to 66 if starting at 64. And I've never tried to get A matches with people who aren't over, nor would I ever expect a mod to allow that, but Simmons was World Champ, Austin was in the main heel group and has some of the lesser titles that year, and the Steiners were a pretty big deal at that point so I don't know why you're calling them nobodies. The one thing that annoys me the most about mods is when you have to shuffle your main event and top upper mids to development because they're atrocious (with exceptions like Giant in WCW or Luger in 87 or any other really, really young/inexperienced wrestlers).

Honestly, as I posted, the biggest shock was that those guys had wrestled for a full year between 91 and 92, but you still had the same ratings. I mean they had to have learned a lot in one year, especially considering how young they were (for Simmons, young in the ring).

Auto A's aren't what I'm looking for, but I would like to try and recreate a little bit of the history of the time instead of going "Well, these 5 guys are down in development for the entire year (hopefully sooner but they have a long way to go), and I've got to completely change everything." which breaks a lot of my enjoyment of playing a mod.

Again, I love the 91 mod and think pretty much everything is great. I don't think I've touched much of any stats in it other than maybe a 65 selling here or there up to 66 and Sting's psych up to 85 (before the psych penalty got nerfed). This one is just brutal to try and do anything with WCW. WWF is rough, but that's pretty accurate as that's mostly Vince's fault and Curt's injury.

justtxyank · June 1, 2017

You get too hung up on the penalties. You can still get good match ratings with the selling penalty. You will never convince me that the Steiners SHOULDN'T get a selling penalty. I will definitely go through and look at guys to make sure I properly accounted for a year of growth, including Steve Austin, but if you are wanting to see the Steiners at 66 in selling you should go ahead and make that edit yourself. I don't believe the Steiners ever worked more than a few matches where the selling wasn't bad. Normally they ate up the other guys in the ring and tossed them around like rag dolls. That's certainly entertaining and I myself thoroughly enjoy that type of match, but that doesn't meant they were good at selling. But regardless, you can still pull B matches in WCW despite low overness and low selling out of the Steiners. I know because I have the data in front of me.

smartman · June 2, 2017

Well, there's two points to that. 1) Before Adam nerfed the psych penalty (and evidently nerfed the selling penalty too), you had to care about it because it locked the match rating in the mid-80's. 2) It's what that represents. Again, if you think the Steiners were garbage sellers, then by all means give them a below 66 selling because that's what that means in the game. If you think a wrestler couldn't tell a story at all in the ring (again when he was the higher psych), then give them below 66 psych. Just understand that that is what you're saying when you do that, and that that is indeed what you want.

It is incredibly weird that we can have a cult of Lex Luger on here that bump his stats up to silly levels, but the Steiners are consistently viewed as lousy by everyone but Hive.

And I don't know why everyone responds with "Well, you can get a B rating out of wrestler X" as if that's acceptable to main event a high Cult or National fed, especially now when you gain so little pop per show. Missing that pop gain from your A tv show hurts a lot more when it is 0.4 instead of 0.6 or 0.9. I just have high standards for my top people because the grind is real, and a simple B isn't it.

Vladamire Dracos · June 6, 2017

Playing as SMW (while watching SMW TV) and I noticed a few things that could be made more accurate. Jim Cornette's gimmick is set as "Censor" for example (should probably be Loud-Mouth Promoter), and most people don't have movesets set (even if they have movesets in the data already). If you don't mind, I'll leave some suggestions here to improve SMW.

Guys with movesets that are not set to their contracts: Barry Horowitz, Bob Armstrong, Bobby Fulton, Dutch Mantell, Ivan Koloff, Rip Rodgers, Scott Armstrong.

Bob Holly would make more sense with the Hollywood Movie Star Gimmick. He was basically the Miz before there was a Miz, talking about his friends in Hollywood and how he was dating Julia Roberts, etc.. His finish was the Star Drop (top rope kneedrop).

"Prime Time" Brian Lee used the Cancellation (Gutwrench into a over the shoulder backbreaker drop) as a finish.

Carl Stiles (as he was called on SMW graphics) gimmick would be Lackey (for Dutch Mantell). Used a Powerslam as the finish in the only match I remember him winning.

Dutch Mantell was a Chickensh*t Heel during the SMW shows feuding with Brian Lee.

Hector Guerrero was your prototypical "Proud Ethnic" Latino. He used a Rolling Cradle as a finish that Dutch Mantell called the Jalapeño Roll.

Ivan and Vladimir Koloff were still using the Comrade gimmick in SMW. Vladimir was basically a smaller, hairier clone of Nikita Koloff, so it wouldn't surprise me if he used the Russian Sickle as a finish.

Jeff Farmer/Black Scorpion could be removed from the roster, he only had one match in SMW, and a losing effort at that. He wore a basic black mask during that match if you want to keep him in.

Jimmy Golden used the Drop Kick as a finish.

Killer Kyle was an unusual guy. He worked a mafioso gimmick, coming to the ring in a suit with a violin case handcuffed to his wrist. Never talked, almost never sold, used the Rub Out (spinebuster) as his finish.

Ironically, one of the few guys with their moveset set, Paul Orndorff, shouldn't. The piledriver was illegal in SMW. Paul Orndorff should start as a babyface (he's set as a heel), he turned heel later on SMW TV ep #11 (4-11-92) in dramatic fashion, piledriving Hector Guerrero after a match, then three more guys as they come to stop him. Then he piledrove Hector again, this time on a chair, for good measure. He was brought in as a piledriver expert to put the move over as dangerous.

Rip Rodgers would probably be better as a Fitness Freak gimmick. "Mr. Marathon Man" once spent an entire episode of SMW TV doing squats.

Robert Gibson has a moveset, but mostly used a Bulldog as a finish in SMW.

Mr. Ron Wright should probably have the Scoundrel gimmick. He was in a wheelchair pretending to be crippled up to try to rip off the fans by asking for donations.

Scott Armstrong could be put on the roster as Dixie Dy-No-Mite, a masked character who uses the "Confederate Kick" (super kick) as a finish. He only wrestled a single match as Scott Armstrong in the early days of SMW (infamously getting whipped by Dutch Mantell in the ring, an image they repeatedly used in ads). As Dixie he would be a Fun Babyface, coming out with sparklers and talking about his "little Firecrackers".

"White Lightnin'" Tim Horner and Jim Cornette shouldn't have a Loyalty relationship, and Horner's Personality shouldn't be as good as it is, going by what Cornette has said about him (look for "Jim Cornette's EPIC rant about Tim Horner" on Youtube, but beware it's NSFW due to strong language). Basically he was locker room poison and was stealing from the promotion. He used The Natural Bridge (Bridging Pin) as a finish.

You might consider adding:

"Golden Boy" Joe Cazana

"Jumpin'" Joey Maggs

Reno Riggins

They (along with Barry Horowitz, Pat Rose, Tommy Angel, and Rikki Nelson) were frequent enhancement talent on SMW TV (all of them but Horowitz could use the Local Jobber gimmick <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />). Maggs especially got a little push as Danny Davis' tag partner, going over the Koloffs in the Tag tourney.

Tony Anthony debuted early on in SMW under a mask as the "Mighty Yankee" before redebuting as Dirty White Boy as Wright's protege. Trash gimmick and using the Bucksnort Blaster (falling chokeslam) as a finish.

"Nitro" Danny Davis was also a early SMW regular, as a babyface no less. He used the H-Bomb (neckbreaker) as a finish.

Oh, and they had a wrestling school! Only two people came out of it (probably due to Tim Horner being the head trainer), but there's that.

Hope that helps! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

justtxyank · June 13, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, there's two points to that. 1) Before Adam nerfed the psych penalty (and evidently nerfed the selling penalty too), you had to care about it because it locked the match rating in the mid-80's. 2) It's what that represents. Again, if you think the Steiners were garbage sellers, then by all means give them a below 66 selling because that's what that means in the game. If you think a wrestler couldn't tell a story at all in the ring (again when he was the higher psych), then give them below 66 psych. Just understand that that is what you're saying when you do that, and that that is indeed what you want. It is incredibly weird that we can have a cult of Lex Luger on here that bump his stats up to silly levels, but the Steiners are consistently viewed as lousy by everyone but Hive.</div></blockquote> Lex Luger has low 60s psych and selling in my mod as well. However, I would absolutely argue he was better than Rick Steiner in 1991/1992. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And I don't know why everyone responds with "Well, you can get a B rating out of wrestler X" as if that's acceptable to main event a high Cult or National fed, especially now when you gain so little pop per show. Missing that pop gain from your A tv show hurts a lot more when it is 0.4 instead of 0.6 or 0.9. I just have high standards for my top people because the grind is real, and a simple B isn't it.</div></blockquote> I agree with you that the grind is real, but I'm not sure what promotion in history you would say was over mid 80s in popularity (TEW terms) that was headlined by the Steiner Brothers tag team matches night in and night out. Absolutely though, a B to B+ match is more than acceptable to main event for a national fed, and you can still pull A show grades with that type of main event.

Jaysin · June 17, 2017

Rick Steiner's average overness= 65; Psychology is 67

Scott Steiner's average overness= 72; psychology is 63

Bret Hart's average overness= 84; psychology 88

Owen hart's average overness= 55; psychology 74

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/VenomousPrime/SteinersHart.jpg

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