Public Beta Reaction Thread

[daddytorgo1]

This system has a lot of nuance, and I get that people love customization options, but sometimes it is fun being forced into things.

 

What's fun for one person may not be fun for another. Everyone should be able to play the game the way they want, as long as it's possible with the code. That's just good game design, and good business.

 

Otherwise you end up with something like say Front Office Football, which I bailed on years ago when it became apparent that it wasn't simulating NFL Football, but was simulating "NFL Football the way the developer thinks it ought to be played."

[Genadi]

This is why I respect you so much, Genadi. Thank you for saying (in a polite way, I may add), what a lot of us are thinking.

 

I thought I was polite too but I've been given a warning for being " unflattering and inflammatory", that post was quoted as being the reason. Well I've tried to bring issues to light I feel are vital to the health of TEW as best I can.

 

At the risk of being banned again for being "inflammatory" or "unflattering" I won't be posting again. GL TEW, I hope you improve

[TeemuFoundation]

 

Here's a reminder to those that have been saying that Adam, for some reason, wants to punish people for playing TEW a certain way. Right at the beginning of the handbook, Adam himself states that there are no right or wrong ways to play TEW. I'm sure he supports all forms of having fun with the game. All ways of play are valid, as per the Handbook. Now, I do agree that some decisions have been made that do limit the sandbox play specifically - although there have also been additions in favour of that - but I seriously doubt those limitations come from some weird place of malice, intended to punish certain types of players. I think they are simply either mistakes, oversights, limitations, or side effects, and whatnot. And I personally do hope some things are addressed during the beta phase, but we'll see. I just don't think Adam sits there thinking of ways to make the game less fun for casual players, or something. That's just silly.

[TOTKingNothing]

Yeah, I definitely don't think that was his intent either.

 

It's just what happened.

[Questlove]

 

Here's a reminder to those that have been saying that Adam, for some reason, wants to punish people for playing TEW a certain way. Right at the beginning of the handbook, Adam himself states that there are no right or wrong ways to play TEW. I'm sure he supports all forms of having fun with the game. All ways of play are valid, as per the Handbook. Now, I do agree that some decisions have been made that do limit the sandbox play specifically - although there have also been additions in favour of that - but I seriously doubt those limitations come from some weird place of malice, intended to punish certain types of players. I think they are simply either mistakes, oversights, limitations, or side effects, and whatnot. And I personally do hope some things are addressed during the beta phase, but we'll see. I just don't think Adam sits there thinking of ways to make the game less fun for casual players, or something. That's just silly.

 

[Genadi]

 

Here's a reminder to those that have been saying that Adam, for some reason, wants to punish people for playing TEW a certain way. ….. That's just silly.

 

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6ZEInQSZg84hEKo8smQSpgs81cC3G6Qp57KKYJ5yweY/https/i.imgur.com/QFGsZHj.png?width=1061&height=571

 

 

Adam - "This turned the feature into a crutch for extremely lazy, brain-dead play. Spotting serious decline now needs to be done by properly engaging with the game...."

 

 

Yeah I'm done, peace out. Genadi

[daddytorgo1]

 

Here's a reminder to those that have been saying that Adam, for some reason, wants to punish people for playing TEW a certain way. Right at the beginning of the handbook, Adam himself states that there are no right or wrong ways to play TEW. I'm sure he supports all forms of having fun with the game. All ways of play are valid, as per the Handbook. Now, I do agree that some decisions have been made that do limit the sandbox play specifically - although there have also been additions in favour of that - but I seriously doubt those limitations come from some weird place of malice, intended to punish certain types of players. I think they are simply either mistakes, oversights, limitations, or side effects, and whatnot. And I personally do hope some things are addressed during the beta phase, but we'll see. I just don't think Adam sits there thinking of ways to make the game less fun for casual players, or something. That's just silly.

 

I definitely agree with you.

[Bull]

I get the point trying to be made here, but what's exactly wrong with wanting players to actually utilize the many other tools, features, and talent in a game rather than deliberately limiting themselves just because of what names show up in a list? Not to mention the absence of said list has no bearing on your choice to bury or fire anyone..

[Questlove]

I get the point trying to be made here, but what's exactly wrong with wanting players to actually utilize the many other tools, features, and talent in a game rather than deliberately limiting themselves just because of what names show up in a list? Not to mention the absence of said list has no bearing on your choice to bury or fire anyone..

 

The point is you don't get to do both. You can't tell people it's a sandbox in which they're free to do whatever they want while also ranting about how one of the ways they play the game is lazy and brain dead.

 

This is of course completely ignoring the fact that it's still incredibly easy to tell if someone is in time decline or not, plus on the very same screen you have next big things which is even lazier, but the point I'm making isn't aimed at the feature itself, it's aimed at his lack of communication skills and weird arbitrary decisions that are made when nobody asked for them.

[BrokenCycle]

Also I feel obligated to remind everyone on the TEW team that this entire thing could have happened and had been corrected if Adam had, at any point in the past several months to a year, said to Derek "Hey while you're playing the game could you press print screen a couple times and send me the images to upload? Thanks bud."

[Bull]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The point is you don't get to do both. You can't tell people it's a sandbox in which they're free to do whatever they want while also ranting about how one of the ways they play the game is lazy and brain dead. <p> </p><p> This is of course completely ignoring the fact that it's still incredibly easy to tell if someone is in time decline or not, plus on the very same screen you have next big things which is even lazier, but the point I'm making isn't aimed at the feature itself, it's aimed at his lack of communication skills and weird arbitrary decisions that are made when nobody asked for them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yea that's fair as far as the little rant goes, but my point is it's not limiting you in any fashion from booking people how you want. . Same for the NBT and Hot Prospects. Ultimately whether they are in the game or not it's still your choice who to push and who not to. Nothing is stopping you from doing that. I get the whole rant about it might rub people the wrong way as it's directed at a certain player base(and I was one of those people who used it that way) but I don't see any need to take it personally. It was a redundant resource because as you say it's not difficult to determine who's on decline anyway. .</p>

[daulten6]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I thought I was polite too but I've been given a warning for being " unflattering and inflammatory", that post was quoted as being the reason. Well I've tried to bring issues to light I feel are vital to the health of TEW as best I can.<p> </p><p> At the risk of being banned again for being "inflammatory" or "unflattering" I won't be posting again. GL TEW, I hope you improve <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agree 100% with your message and it’s a shame that there’s not a place where this can be discussed openly.</p>

[daulten6]

In regards to some of the restrictions added, I think it’s a good idea but I’d like the option to change it in the event that I want a more sandbox experience. This would include allowing me to edit the status of workers mid-game, the mentioned product adjustments and contract lengths.

[lavelleuk]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Idolized" data-cite="Idolized" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For those complaining of the text being small - what screen resolution are you using?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've tried a couple of different ones, I'll have to look properly when I have the laptop</p>

[StephCurry3]

<p>This is going to sound like I just want more free gameplay, but I am being 100% sincere...</p><p> </p><p>

Can you stretch out the beta limit to at least 6 months in-game instead of the 2 months it is now?</p><p> </p><p>

I am really concerned that there are bugs/issues that are being missed because of the shorter term nature of the beta.</p><p> </p><p>

2 in game months isn't enough for the game to show all the features (deaths, retirements, new workers, randomly generated companies, etc) all of which could have bugs attached to them.</p>

[Bonafide_Bluffa]

<p>6 months would cut into sales way too much</p><p> </p><p>

edit: but let us buy the game in “early access” <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Chikbot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="StephCurry3" data-cite="StephCurry3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is going to sound like I just want more free gameplay, but I am being 100% sincere...<p> </p><p> Can you stretch out the beta limit to at least 6 months in-game instead of the 2 months it is now?</p><p> </p><p> I am really concerned that there are bugs/issues that are being missed because of the shorter term nature of the beta.</p><p> </p><p> 2 in game months isn't enough for the game to show all the features (deaths, retirements, new workers, randomly generated companies, etc) all of which could have bugs attached to them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Saying this like I literally didn't have someone die 3 days into a game that actually kind of messed up my entire booking</p>

[Payne]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is of course completely ignoring the fact that it's still incredibly easy to tell if someone is in time decline or not, plus on the very same screen you have next big things which is even lazier, but the point I'm making isn't aimed at the feature itself, it's aimed at his lack of communication skills and weird arbitrary decisions that are made when nobody asked for them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a statement that bothers me. This is meant with no offense to Questlove. </p><p> </p><p> He can make any decisions he wants. He's writing the game. It's his game. He can make any choice he so pleases. </p><p> </p><p> That's something I don't like about some people. I get that they are passionate and love the game, but they sometimes get to the point of thinking that it's their game. That they're owed something. You're not.</p>

[Bull]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Payne" data-cite="Payne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is a statement that bothers me. This is meant with no offense to Questlove. <p> </p><p> He can make any decisions he wants. He's writing the game. It's his game. He can make any choice he so pleases. </p><p> </p><p> That's something I don't like about some people. I get that they are passionate and love the game, but they sometimes get to the point of thinking that it's their game. That they're owed something. You're not.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> this is kinda my view point but it's ultimately just gonna cycle back to the "but I pay for it, I should get what I want" argument. Which I mean no offense by as it's just as valid an argument but I feel like people are getting upset about some things that doesn't force them to play any differently than they normally would, but simply because it isn't there it's some how detrimental..</p>

[1PWfan]

Okay, let's everyone cool it, okay? There's no need for all of this arguing. I like the beta, I've not had any technical issues (like, at all, it's actually kind of weird) and like the game more than 2016, but I can respect that other people have had different experiences and different opinions and that's fine. Everyone disagrees on something, let's stop saying the same things over and over again, 'kay? Negativity helps nobody.

[ShibataHeadbutt]

<p>i couldn't get into this game, i love the database and new wrestlers</p><p> </p><p>

but i kept gettimg headached, i now use the simplified skin and i'm having a great time</p><p> </p><p>

still some adjusting to do, changed to scroll wheel</p><p> </p><p>

still can't find how to see if they are in a tag team but i am really looking forward to getting t know this game now</p>

[miamarsden]

So something really awesome is that on the bottom you can take away the buttons there and instead switch it between players (really good for multiplayer) or search for workers or companies. This actually makes it easy to do searching, albeit I had to experiment to find that.

[stonecold285]

Is there a faster way to get to the "personal info" screen to see a workers behaviour, relationships and tag teams?

This used to be a one click from the roster when viewing a worker, now it's two clicks.

 

I was checking that and now I am asking myself if there's even a way to get to relationships (personal information) via the roster screen loool. Like, if you can view their profile from the (top 25 matches, job history, etc...)

[stonecold285]

So something really awesome is that on the bottom you can take away the buttons there and instead switch it between players (really good for multiplayer) or search for workers or companies. This actually makes it easy to do searching, albeit I had to experiment to find that.

 

Can you do that for companies? when I search for companies there's no criteria to set and when I hit search all the companies disappear and it just says loading.

[TeemuFoundation]

Okay, before Hero locks this, I just want to say that if it's possible to talk a worker into doing steroids, then immediately drug test him, and fire for using steroids, this is my favorite TEW ever.

 

"GODDAMNIT, PAL, YOU'RE ON STEROIDS?!""

"But boss?!"

"YOU'RE FIRED!"