Moving booking segments up and down.

[Dourvas]

<p>As it stands, it's extremely hard to move a segment in the booking screen.</p><p>

In TEW 2016 you could select a specific segment, click on it and then keep pressing move up or move down until the opener or the main event respectively.</p><p>

Now, not only does it take a lot of time but you have to move your mouse for every time you want to keep moving the segment which is a lot harder than it should be. </p><p>

Maybe we could change the number order itself on the left of each segment by keyboard input?</p>

[foolinc]

I agree that there could be a more effective way to move segments around the card. If it's not easy possible to code the game in the manner you stated, another possibly could be to move the arrow keys to the left side of the screen and then switch the text from center to left align.

 

I've found one of my issues is that it's kind of hard to keep track of the segment you are moving due to the amount of white space there is between the arrows and the segment name.

[FINisher]

Yes, the segment should be locked in selection and then you could just move it to the slot that you'd like or if using arrow keys, you could move it up or down. Having to click an arrow, then move your mouse to find the segment again and click again, rinse and repeat, is really bad design and extremely frustrating.

[Dross]

I think the problem is that, with the new list items, it cannot be realistically done the old way. Right now, clicking a segment opens that booking, rather than selecting that line, so 'general' arrows wouldn't work. The arrows need to be on that specific line.

 

However, if I'm correct I'd rather switch to the old way anyway. Booking really is SO slow now and trying to click the right arrows is really a chore. I guess that I realistically lose serveral minutes each show just trying to rearrange segments...

[Blake Trask]

Not having to chase a segment around with arrows > having to double click to open a segment.

 

Honestly I don't like single click stuff much. It's too easy to click on the wrong thing and get launched into a screen you didn't intend to touch.

 

It's fewer clicks to edit segments now but the effort saved isn't worth it compared to the annoyance of shuffling things around.

[The Nickman]

I honestly don’t know how much work it is to implement any changes we suggest or whether it’s possible, but I’d certainly prefer a system where you click on the segment and then move it up and down using arrows at the bottom like in previous versions.

 

No problem at all with foregoing opening segments by clicking on them for this and instead going back to an EDIT SEGMENT button again.

 

Like I said though, no idea how much work this is. Seems to me like the only solution to this issue that would work.

[Irish Wolf]

Yeah I find the new way of moving segments a pain. There was zero wrong with the old way. Although as far as things go its a minor gripe, its still a gripe.

[daddytorgo1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48492" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah I find the new way of moving segments a pain. There was zero wrong with the old way. Although as far as things go its a minor gripe, its still a gripe.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree that it's a minor gripe. Booking is critical to the game. It's the section of the game where people spend the most time, and this change makes it so much more time-consuming and cumbersome.</p>

[BrokenCycle]

Now you know how WMMA players feel.

[Dross]

WMMA isn't half as bad though. There is a maximum of 10 matches (segments) on the main card and 10 segments on the pre show. And the arrows are bigger, so it's much less of a hassle

[Moe Hunter]

If we can't get an option for the old list style for this screen, it seems an alternative could be right-clicking a segment to highlight it, then using a universal set of arrows. Heck, this could even allow for selecting and moving multiple segments at a time, which would then be an overall upgrade!

[SilkySlimer]

Without knowing about the technical limitations, drag & drop in the booking screen to re-order the card would be the dream.

[The Nickman]

If we can't get an option for the old list style for this screen, it seems an alternative could be right-clicking a segment to highlight it, then using a universal set of arrows. Heck, this could even allow for selecting and moving multiple segments at a time, which would then be an overall upgrade!

That sounds like a reasonable solution if possible.

[Nachtfalter]

<p>I agree that there definitely has to be a better way.</p><p> </p><p>

It's not that much of an issue for me in WMMA because I usually do book top to bottom there and so there's not that much moving around, but in TEW I'm used to first booking the matches and then all the angles afterwards. And having to move all the angles through the booking sheet the way it is now is driving me crazy...</p>

[Jaded]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Nachtfalter" data-cite="Nachtfalter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48492" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree that there definitely has to be a better way.<p> </p><p> It's not that much of an issue for me in WMMA because I usually do book top to bottom there and so there's not that much moving around, but in TEW I'm used to first booking the matches and then all the angles afterwards. And having to move all the angles through the booking sheet the way it is now is driving me crazy...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I've never cared that much in WMMA (also helps that the arrows there are bigger!) but being able to book matches, then angles, without it being quite such a pain in the neck to move them would be a big plus point for me.</p>

[Nachtfalter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48492" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> (also helps that the arrows there are bigger!).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's true, too. I had that thought while booking earlier</p><p> .</p><p> I'm glad it's not just my poor eye-sight <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[franticloser]

You guys book matches then angles? I don't even think I could process that. I book angles and matches in order to ensure proper flow.

[Jaded]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="franticloser" data-cite="franticloser" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48492" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You guys book matches then angles? I don't even think I could process that. I book angles and matches in order to ensure proper flow.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It depends on the fed, to be fair. I'm booking a RAW card atm, so for I'm booking the match then trying to book angles related to it, then the next match, then angles related to that, and so on.</p><p> </p><p> But if I'm doing something without many angles - say ACPW - I generally book all the matches first, then figure out where to throw in a hype video or two and a Jamie Atherton promo.</p>

[The Nickman]

I’ve discovered that when I book without the autobooker I generally book the card from start to finish, so it’s not a huge big deal.

 

But when I play TEW, I largely rely on the autobooker to set me up a card that I can then tweak and turn into a good show. I like the idea of them setting my matches and angles and then I “fix” it up accordingly. This process isn’t great in TEW2020 due to the limitations with autobooker still, but it’s not impossible. For this type of booking though, I find the arrows thing a MAJOR pain.

[MitchHedberg]

I'd love drag and drop for moving segments, personally.

[jjohns44]

I was just thinking this and have seen a lot of people dislike the new way to move segments. It takes up a lot of time and you can accidentally click on something you didnt intend to click on and only adds to some frustrations. An ability to drag and drop or move the segments with a single button like previous games is ideal.

[Togg]

I'd love drag and drop for moving segments, personally.

 

 

Absolutely the best possible option on the table, Even a change to the old system would be better than the current way to move segments up and down!

[Nachtfalter]

I know I essentially already made the point earlier in the thread, but after booking several shows with a sports entertainment product (lots of short matches and LOTS of angles) yesterday, I just have to reinforce it again:

 

The way of moving segments around absolutely needs to be fundamentally improved.

 

It is annoying to the point of of making it impossible to play the game to book shows with lots of segments.

 

Yes, I would love drag & drop, but I would settle for just about anything to lessen the pain. Make the arrows bigger. Highlight the last segment moved to make it easier to move again. Anything. Anything at all.

 

I'll go back to booking PGHW for now. No angles. That seems possible without more rage attacks...

[sheepy]

Really hope this is looked at.

 

Drag and drop would be a huge upgrade and it's weird that it's not in there already - it's pretty standard UX design nowadays.

 

Another thing that might work could be using shift to select multiple segments to then move them up or down the card in batches? Or a button to move to top / move to middle / move to bottom?

 

Anything has got to be better.