cappyboy Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mike b" data-cite="mike b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Remind me sir never to play a online game with you:p</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not to worry. You exist. Therefore I wouldn't treat you anywhere near as nasty as I would like to the non-existant McMinister. It's the fact he's fictional that makes the idea livable.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightnick Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FINisher" data-cite="FINisher" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've always had a parody gimmick of Rich Money in my mind.. "<em>Poor Nickel"</em></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey FIN, alt idea.</p><p> </p><p> Bum Rich Money.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightnick Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not to worry. You exist. Therefore I wouldn't treat you anywhere near as nasty as I would like to the non-existant McMinister. It's the fact he's fictional that makes the idea livable.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> McMinister is a terrible owner anyway, so it's okay.</p><p> </p><p> If you tried pulling that on Stomper though Cappy. Then we'd have an issue. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 <p>For me, the realism to this feature doesn't matter one bit. It's one of those features that just makes the <strong>game</strong> more interesting... I'm one of the first people who will criticize realism in whatever it is (games, movies, etc) but I really like everything about the 'Dirty Tricks'. Sometimes you have to choose the fun-factor over the realistic-factor. </p><p> </p><p> But like you said, not all of them are unrealistic, just a few that don't have real-life scenarios to go along with them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D16NJD16 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They are based on owner personalities, so a sleazeball promoter may use them regularly, a legit promoter probably won't go near them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is key</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D16NJD16 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gigas" data-cite="Gigas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To be more specific, I only have a problem with 2 of them. Sponser snipe and plant story. If anyone has 2 real life scenerios of those 2 taking place, maybe I wouldnt have such an issue with it. But I'd still want the ability to turn them off.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dont worry, every one of them took place on more then one occasion during the Monday Night Wars, including the 2 you mentioned. Bischoff used to contact WWF sponsors daily and trash the content of their shows. And of course Bischoff and McMahon both went back and fourth in the press(back when it was actually willing to cover that sort of thing), taking shots at one another and their respective products. Even if there wasn't any instances of them happening I'd be for them being included though, since there has to be some kind of element of being able to MAKE history as well as re-create it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 anybody remember the TNA plane that flew over WM24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 To be more specific, I only have a problem with 2 of them. Sponser snipe and plant story. If anyone has 2 real life scenerios of those 2 taking place, maybe I wouldnt have such an issue with it. But I'd still want the ability to turn them off. Got a question for ya. Remember when WWE's workers were promoting Stacker 2 products? Whose workers are doing it now? Do you honestly think if WWE told NVE Pharma (Stacker 2's owner) they'd be interested in a deal but ONLY if they were the only pro wrestling organization Stacker 2 was contracted with, that TNA would still have Stacker 2 as a sponsor? That's a sponsor snipe, is it not? As for plant story, are you joking me? Reporters have done jail time for contempt for refusing to divulge their sources. You think someone's going to snitch on their sources, given how tenuous reliable sources tend to be? Basically, if a reporter snitches on one source, all the others get the feeling that they could be ratted out too. No subpoena can compel a reporter to do that. So how exactly do you support a libel claim when you don't know who said it? Furthermore, media organizations have fought, won, and settled libel claims for the last 30 years or so. Go ask American Media (publisher of such publications as The National Enquirer (and Examiner), The Star, The Sun, the Globe, and so on) about that. If the story causes sufficient damage to a rival, it's worth the resulting lawsuit by whoever's making the decision to go through with it. Just because something hasn't happened at the highest levels does not mean it cannot happen. Deep South promoters could plant stories left and right. How 'bout telling a local newspaper reporter that your competing promotion is planning to hire Kanyon to work their shows? How would that be taken in many areas of the south? A few years ago, OJ Simpson was being panned for writing a book that was scheduled to be published for ReganBooks. Have a local reporter cite 'sources' that say a local promotion was offering Simpson $25,000 to make an appearance at their next show. How would that be taken, exactly? Also, how do you support a lawsuit for a rumor? All it takes is just that, a rumor. And the longer you take to refute it, the more it seems true to many people (and if you don't read that publication regularly or at all, it might take a bit to refute). That's the beauty of this, and many other, features. Just because WWE or TNA haven't done it (that we know of), doesn't mean you (or I or him or her) can't or wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Got a question for ya. Remember when WWE's workers were promoting Stacker 2 products? Whose workers are doing it now? Do you honestly think if WWE told NVE Pharma (Stacker 2's owner) they'd be interested in a deal but ONLY if they were the only pro wrestling organization Stacker 2 was contracted with, that TNA would still have Stacker 2 as a sponsor? That's a sponsor snipe, is it not? As for plant story, are you joking me? Reporters have done jail time for contempt for refusing to divulge their sources. You think someone's going to snitch on their sources, given how tenuous reliable sources tend to be? Basically, if a reporter snitches on one source, all the others get the feeling that they could be ratted out too. No subpoena can compel a reporter to do that. So how exactly do you support a libel claim when you don't know who said it? Furthermore, media organizations have fought, won, and settled libel claims for the last 30 years or so. Go ask American Media (publisher of such publications as The National Enquirer (and Examiner), The Star, The Sun, the Globe, and so on) about that. If the story causes sufficient damage to a rival, it's worth the resulting lawsuit by whoever's making the decision to go through with it. Just because something hasn't happened at the highest levels does not mean it cannot happen. Deep South promoters could plant stories left and right. How 'bout telling a local newspaper reporter that your competing promotion is planning to hire Kanyon to work their shows? How would that be taken in many areas of the south? A few years ago, OJ Simpson was being panned for writing a book that was scheduled to be published for ReganBooks. Have a local reporter cite 'sources' that say a local promotion was offering Simpson $25,000 to make an appearance at their next show. How would that be taken, exactly? Also, how do you support a lawsuit for a rumor? All it takes is just that, a rumor. And the longer you take to refute it, the more it seems true to many people (and if you don't read that publication regularly or at all, it might take a bit to refute). That's the beauty of this, and many other, features. Just because WWE or TNA haven't done it (that we know of), doesn't mean you (or I or him or her) can't or wouldn't do it. Good god what is the world coming to when I actually just agreed with Remi on this whole subject... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 My dislike of it isn't so much that it doesn't happen, but that it's a particularly sour element that's included. Do some managers tell their players to dive? Almost certainly. Is it in Football Manager? Of course not. Have any promoters ever supplied steroids to their workers? Again, almost certainly. Is that in the game? No, and i hope it never is. I'd say this is similar - it's one of the things about wrestling that people aren't particularly proud of. But hey, maybe it'll grow on me, maybe not. I was probably a bit harsh with my Promotion Wars comment though, sorry Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanada Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 #9: Smart Retirements A mini-alteration designed to increase realism, this feature means that workers who have a good job (i.e. are well paid and work for a decent sized promotion) will intentionally continue wrestling far longer than they otherwise would have in order to continue their career and make money. Essentially, it allows the worker's "default" retirement date to be pushed back. Of course, this does not mean wrestlers will continue working indefinitely, it merely extends their career by several years - eventually they will still retire, regardless. I'm getting the feeling Adam either has 200 little additions like this (and ones mentioned previously) that are more about personalizing gameplay and improving little complaints, or he's eventually going to blow us all out of the water. Great addition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 #9 Smart Retirements was bound to happen with all the requests for it. im all for it would love to see the Main Event sence for USPW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parent Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well of course, Flair has alimony to pay ya know. Gotta put the boots on and win some alimony money, WOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I'm getting the feeling Adam either has 200 little additions like this (and ones mentioned previously) that are more about personalizing gameplay and improving little complaints, or he's eventually going to blow us all out of the water. Great addition though. Hey we still have 191 more to go. He's building up to the main event:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Excellent little addition regarding retirements, I was hoping for something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I love the new retirement feature...so far that and drag/drop booking has been my two favorites I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hey we still have 191 more to go. He's building up to the main event:) He is going with the perfect show theory...came out strong with something a lot of us wanting in drag/drop booking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladamire Dracos Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I agree with Mike, I doubt he'll throw out the biggest features right from the get go. Think about it, it's like the Perfect Show Theory, you don't trot out your Main Eventers for the opening matches. That said, this is another much needed improvement over TEW08 that I'm happy to see, especially with guys like Hogan, Flair, Dusty, and Funk out there in the real world still lacing them up occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I'm getting the feeling Adam either has 200 little additions like this (and ones mentioned previously) that are more about personalizing gameplay and improving little complaints, or he's eventually going to blow us all out of the water. Great addition though. ... you're forgetting about the dirt sheet already? Don't let anyone tell you otherwise that is HUGE!!!! @Retirements: nifty little tweak, I feel kind of sheepish because I thought '08 did this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Cobra Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 One of those nice little things that's good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greek Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 One thing I'm wondering if this automatically pushes back the retirement date of workers with good jobs or does it decrease the odds of them retiring? In a way if a wrestler has already made huge amounts of money maybe being well paid isn't a big incentive for him to continue working - thus making him retire earlier? Don't mean to bash the feature... Just thinking out loud Sound like a good feature if implemented correctly... and I have no reason to believe it hasn't been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanada Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 ... you're forgetting about the dirt sheet already? Don't let anyone tell you otherwise that is HUGE!!!! @Retirements: nifty little tweak, I feel kind of sheepish because I thought '08 did this already. I can guarantee I never use the dirt sheet on a regular basis if at all after a month of owning the game. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdWarrior Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This 'Smart Retirements' thing is a nifty little feature. It'll certainly add another layer of reality to the game, and I'm all for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Edwards Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I betting fridays post is going to be something big that alot of people have been asking for. It seemed like it went that way in 08 was coming out. monday was something big not but not that big then a bunch of little stuff tues-thrus and then on friday something huge for people to talk about all weekend long. then it starts over again the next monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Definitely like the new retirement feature. Anything that can keep the old timers around for any longer I'm all for. In previous versions I would use the editor to take guys out of retirement that I felt would 'continue on' anyway. They would retire shortly afterwards, but it let me still put on one last match with them. I like keeping veterans around for as long as possible. I am a firm believer of the veterans passing on knowledge backstage to the youngsters... but of course that knowledge passes much better in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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