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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tha Black Phenom" data-cite="Tha Black Phenom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't think it was a work, R-Truth is just that much of a dolt, haha. Also, anyone caught the F-bomb Truth dropped a bit after the first Milwaukee chants?<p> </p><p> Seriously. Five bucks they'll either turn Truth into a joke character or depush him outright. Or both.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You might be right. I mean Cena even implied (or said, can't remember) that Truth was too drunk or hung over from the Super Bowl to remember where he was! <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wrestlemania used to be the one WWE PPV of the year I'd actually order, although in later years it was done purely out of habit and last year I got it solely for Bret vs. Vince. This year, I can't see anything on the cards, either provisionally or potentially, that would make me want to buy it this year. Sure, Sting vs. Undertaker would tempt me but it wouldn't be a sure thing to get me to buy. <strong>The guest host, whoever it is, would have no bearing on whether I'd buy WM or not.</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not even if it was STING?!?!?!</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not even if it was STING?!?!?!</div></blockquote><p> Call me crazy, but walking around with a Bella Twin on each arm doesn't seem like the best way to utilize Sting. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>RAW backstage notes:</p><p> </p><p>

- After Raw went off the air, John Cena and Randy Orton teamed to defeat CM Punk and The Miz.</p><p>

- CM Punk broke his nose in the opening segment of Raw.</p><p>

- David Otunga is not injured. He was simply booked that way.</p><p>

- Everyone was cracking up backstage about the R-Truth "wrong city" mistake. John Cena decided to improvise off of it.</p><p>

- Cena and Punk had a "battle rap" during one of the commercial breaks.</p><p> </p><p>

In the RAW house show Cena beat Punk by submission in a street fight.</p><p> </p><p>

Latest rumour:</p><p> </p><p>

A storyline where Sting has been trying to get sacked from TNA but can't so to get into the WWE he had to become the Anonymous RAW GM.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Latest rumour:</p><p> </p><p> A storyline where Sting has been trying to get sacked from TNA but can't so to get into the WWE he had to become the Anonymous RAW GM.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lolwut???</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tha Black Phenom" data-cite="Tha Black Phenom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't think it was a work, R-Truth is just that much of a dolt, haha. Also, anyone caught the F-bomb Truth dropped a bit after the first Milwaukee chants?<p> </p><p> Seriously. Five bucks they'll either turn Truth into a joke character or depush him outright. Or both.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I caught that. Wasn't sure if he actually said it or not. Bye Bye Truth... you won't do very well in the chamber...</p>
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<p>The Sting RAW GM thing is probably bogus. I'm putting my money on Michael Cole.</p><p> </p><p>

Can't believe Randy "Perfect Spots" Orton headbutted Punk and made him bleed. At least it looked good.</p><p> </p><p>

I thought Mason Ryan's domination of R-Truth was a way to add some drama by having Truth replaced in the EC match. He's definitely the weak link.</p><p> </p><p>

The off-air Battle Rap got more pop than most diva and tag team matches.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can't believe Randy "Perfect Spots" Orton headbutted Punk and made him bleed. At least it looked good.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> STUPID STUPID STUPID!</p><p> </p><p> He should settle his tea kettle, honestly. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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Orton breaking Punk's nose isn't a firing offence but it did get me thinking about what it would take for Orton to get fired. Orton has done enough to get fired at least twice, probably more, but he's a star and stars get breaks that rank-and-file roster members don't. And I think short of physically assaulting a member of staff, Orton can probably get away with anything he we wants.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Orton breaking Punk's nose isn't a firing offence but it did get me thinking about what it would take for Orton to get fired. Orton has done enough to get fired at least twice, probably more, but he's a star and stars get breaks that rank-and-file roster members don't. And I think short of physically assaulting a member of staff, Orton can probably get away with anything he we wants.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yup, including completely missing some of his stomps on Miz at the Rumble. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Orton breaking Punk's nose isn't a firing offence but it did get me thinking about what it would take for Orton to get fired. Orton has done enough to get fired at least twice, probably more, but he's a star and stars get breaks that rank-and-file roster members don't. And I think short of physically assaulting a member of staff, Orton can probably get away with anything he we wants.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What are you talking about here? Can you link to any story after 2007 that links to any behavior problems with Orton at all? You make it sound like he's got ongoing behavioral issues, but I'm pretty sure if that was true, WWE would in fact send him home instead of keeping him in the main event for years. I mean, Jeff Hardy was WWE's top babyface through most of 2009.</p>
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I just have a hard time buying that if Orton was as bad as dirtsheets made him out to be in 2004 or so, that he would have a decade of continuous employment, as I can think of plenty of "names" that didn't last in WWE this decade because of their behavior or they had reputations of being difficult to work with: Chyna, Jeff Hardy, Hogan, Scott Hall (lasted less than 3 months), X-Pac, Sable. Even Austin was sent home at one point. So while maybe he does get some amount of preferential treatment, I doubt WWE would keep him around for a decade if he was really all that terrible to work with, and every shoot interview I've heard from people that weren't specifically mad at him (Kennedy) indicates that he's generally well-liked and doesn't carry himself like he's better then all the boys in the back.
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<p>I don't think he's as bulletproof as he used to be. For a time he was a hot heel on the verge of a super-hot babyface turn. "Next Stone Cold" they said, and when you've got Steve Austin 2.0 you can easily overlook the dude taking a dump in a bag or three. However, he turned and... He's not that level. He's popular, but he didn't become mainstream-massive, and most importantly, he didn't overtake John Cena. I figure his value to the company has gone down because of that. From invaluable to merely important. </p><p> </p><p>

Still, people like his work, so I'm not expecting him to be fired for a looooong time. The Punk thing was an accident, probably an isolated incident.</p>

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<p>An unintentional injury isn't a big deal. A broken nose isn't that bad. Punk could go around wearing a mask and use it as part of his gimmick like what some wrestlers do when they break their thumb or ribs. D'Lo Brown running around with the chest protecter I felt helped his character a lot.</p><p> </p><p>

This is wrestling and guys get hurt on accident.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>An unintentional injury isn't a big deal. A broken nose isn't that bad. Punk could go around wearing a mask and use it as part of his gimmick like what some wrestlers do when they break their thumb or ribs. D'Lo Brown running around with the chest protecter I felt helped his character a lot.<p> </p><p> This is wrestling and guys get hurt on accident.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly, I believe they did the same with, I want to say Ricky Morton of the R'N'R Express, when he broke his nose back in the 1980's.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Exactly, I believe they did the same with, I want to say Ricky Morton of the R'N'R Express, when he broke his nose back in the 1980's.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm fairly sure Virgil wore a mask to protect a broken nose at Wrestlemania VIII, too. Twas a long time ago though... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think he's as bulletproof as he used to be. For a time he was a hot heel on the verge of a super-hot babyface turn. "Next Stone Cold" they said, and when you've got Steve Austin 2.0 you can easily overlook the dude taking a dump in a bag or three. However, he turned and... He's not that level. He's popular, but he didn't become mainstream-massive, and most importantly, he didn't overtake John Cena. I figure his value to the company has gone down because of that. From invaluable to merely important. <p> </p><p> Still, people like his work, so I'm not expecting him to be fired for a looooong time. The Punk thing was an accident, probably an isolated incident.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But there hasn't been an Orton behavior story in over 4 years, far, <em>far</em> before he became the #2 babyface in the company. And I don't believe anybody in the business has said Orton is the next Austin ever, let alone way back in 2004 when he was being accused of harassing diva search contestants. </p><p> </p><p> He's still valuable and I think anybody that thought he'd be the top guy in the company hasn't heard him much on the mic, but my earlier point stands: that WWE has let go of plenty of name guys because their attitudes weren't good, while they have kept Randy Orton continuously on the roster for a decade.</p>
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