Wrestling Machine Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/9/2024 at 8:25 AM, PaperMachete said: Really gonna be interesting with the presumed Bloodline civil war. It's not out of the question that we can get: Roman, Jimmy, Jey, Sami, unknown (and the story of Roman trying to make up for his sins with the Usos and Sami will be great) vs Solo, Tama, Tanga Loa, Fatu, Hikuleo (who I presume will be signed as soon as it's possible) or maybe 4v4 with Fatu being face and Sami out of the picture. Or The Rock in there somewhere. There are so many options. I think Jacob Fatu is a Can't-Miss Prospect as a heel, but it is also true that with Solo Sikoa and Tama Tonga already there, his brutality would be less noticeable. I can see him as Roman or Rocky's enforcer used to deal with Solo's revolution and aim to the Head of the Table, but not as a classic babyface. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 8 hours ago, Wrestling Machine said: I think Jacob Fatu is a Can't-Miss Prospect as a heel, but it is also true that with Solo Sikoa and Tama Tonga already there, his brutality would be less noticeable. I can see him as Roman or Rocky's enforcer used to deal with Solo's revolution and aim to the Head of the Table, but not as a classic babyface. One of the things I read online is that they are having Solo be more violent now because Jacob could outshine him in that department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Machine Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 So it looks like Cody vs Logan will be for the Undisputed WWE title AND the United States title! Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisma Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, Wrestling Machine said: So it looks like Cody vs Logan will be for the Undisputed WWE title AND the United States title! Thoughts? I don't get why they would do this, it makes no sense to give Cody both belts, or for Paul to lose the US title with no build up. I guess we are getting some sort of DQ ending so that the titles don't switch hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Logan Paul isn't even going to put somebody over in dropping the US title? He really is an actual professional wrestler. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blonde Bomber Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 What… what if Logan Paul wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisma Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 49 minutes ago, The Blonde Bomber said: What… what if Logan Paul wins? Imagine how quickly the entire iwc will turn on WWE! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 hours ago, Sisma said: I don't get why they would do this, it makes no sense to give Cody both belts, or for Paul to lose the US title with no build up. I guess we are getting some sort of DQ ending so that the titles don't switch hands. My guess is AJ interferes, and then LA Knight gets involved somehow. Or KO gets involved when Logan Paul tries to cheat. Can't see a clean win coming out of it, and it's fine. I don't mind DQs/Non-finishes as long as it's both of the following - it's logical AND it's not overdone for the wrestler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blonde Bomber Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The double title stip makes me extra curious what will happen. May actually watch the show live if it’s on at a reasonable hour. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanX Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Blonde Bomber said: What… what if Logan Paul wins? For a throwaway PPV defence, they are surely holding the audience hostage with this. People know no one is safe because of Jinder and 99% of the time either stip will change or a DQ will end the match but that 1% is still there. Edited May 12 by SanX forgot the word match/defence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Machine Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I understand those who are unhappy with this choice, and I consider it a reasonable point of view. On the other hand, however, I personally much prefer this solution to seeing Cody defend his Undisputed WWE title strap against a random opponent with 0 chance of winning. Will we see Cody 2 Belts? Will Logan Paul succeed in the phantasmagorical task of defeating Cody, who I assume would win the title back in a short time? Will it all end in a DQ? At least now I have a reason to see the PLE lol and Cody will have something to do! Of course, it all comes from the fact that when the story ended, they didn't plan a nice feud for the Nightmare and he was floating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 3 hours ago, Wrestling Machine said: I understand those who are unhappy with this choice, and I consider it a reasonable point of view. On the other hand, however, I personally much prefer this solution to seeing Cody defend his Undisputed WWE title strap against a random opponent with 0 chance of winning. Will we see Cody 2 Belts? Will Logan Paul succeed in the phantasmagorical task of defeating Cody, who I assume would win the title back in a short time? Will it all end in a DQ? At least now I have a reason to see the PLE lol and Cody will have something to do! Of course, it all comes from the fact that when the story ended, they didn't plan a nice feud for the Nightmare and he was floating. I still think we could see Styles as his first long term feud, but it's getting broken up with other matches in between. LA Knight finds his footing with the US Title, and you have KO turn on Orton to have that going forward. It could work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Machine Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 A rather boring RAW last night, especially with little star power a main event that was a big miss imo. 15 minutes of wild messy brawl, a suicide dive, an over-abused chop trading in the middle of the ring, and little heat from the crowd. Am I the only one who doesn't get this Dragunov hype? IDK to me he seems to do pure random striking without a bit of storytelling to engage the me nor the audience, seems phony on how he acts, and his “invicible” gimmick doesn't convince me on a 5 ft 10, 200lb(?) guy. I just can't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanX Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Wrestling Machine said: A rather boring RAW last night, especially with little star power a main event that was a big miss imo. 15 minutes of wild messy brawl, a suicide dive, an over-abused chop trading in the middle of the ring, and little heat from the crowd. Am I the only one who doesn't get this Dragunov hype? IDK to me he seems to do pure random striking without a bit of storytelling to engage the me nor the audience, seems phony on how he acts, and his “invicible” gimmick doesn't convince me on a 5 ft 10, 200lb(?) guy. I just can't buy it. Ilya Dragunov is a Gunther type of wrestler, the big difference is he makes up for his size with intensity. It doesn't help that he needed to carry Jey Uso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Ilja is awesome. Had he been able to face Gunther, you probably would have seen where a bit of the hype comes from. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Yes, Jey's charisma is amazing, but his solo matches have been anything but. I don't blame WWE for trying to rinse this Main Event run, but the quicker he's back in tag action the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Machine Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, Dawn said: Ilja is awesome. Had he been able to face Gunther, you probably would have seen where a bit of the hype comes from. Yeah Dawn it may be, matches with Jey and Ricochet didn't make me a fan but maybe it'll change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhalbur Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/12/2024 at 11:10 AM, CQI13 said: My guess is AJ interferes, and then LA Knight gets involved somehow. Or KO gets involved when Logan Paul tries to cheat. Can't see a clean win coming out of it, and it's fine. I don't mind DQs/Non-finishes as long as it's both of the following - it's logical AND it's not overdone for the wrestler. Yeah, smells like a double DQ/brawl finish. Which is fine for a Saudi show to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blonde Bomber Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 One of my pet peeves is backstage segments where they have a microphone then the microphone disappears and you can hear everyone exactly the same. Either you need a microphone or don’t, pick one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperMachete Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Wonder if we get some shenanigans in the Gunther-Jey match on Monday. One possible KOTR final is Jey vs Tama Tonga. Maybe not the match we want, but adds another wrinkle in the Bloodline story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I hope they don't overthink it. Just go simple and give Gunther KOTR to reestablish it as a proper yearly concept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Machine Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Dawn said: I hope they don't overthink it. Just go simple and give Gunther KOTR to reestablish it as a proper yearly concept. Our Ring General 🫡 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) I...am legitimately so sick of babyface Bianca, gang. Lmao She is admittedly producing spectacularly in the ring, so it's better than many folks who have had go away heat with me in the past. But character wise she is unpalatable to me right now. They had to make Jade lose (even if by DQ) this soon to accomodate for Bianca going far in the tourney, while Tiffany looks like a fool for losing to a one legged woman. If she wins QOTR just give her everything else so I can stop watching SmackDown already...when DID Raw and SD switch places when it comes to which show is the better booked of the two (outside of Cody and Roman less Bloodline it's just not a very interesting show atm)...why isn't Naomi in this spot? She would actually benefit from this accomplishment, man... Edited May 18 by Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blonde Bomber Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I don’t see the hype around Carmelo Hayes yet from what I’ve seen. He has a look to him, but in the ring I see nothing special about him. Comes off as choreographed to me. Tama v La Knight was well done, enjoyed the hard hitting nature of the match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/17/2024 at 11:15 PM, Dawn said: I...am legitimately so sick of babyface Bianca, gang. Lmao She is admittedly producing spectacularly in the ring, so it's better than many folks who have had go away heat with me in the past. But character wise she is unpalatable to me right now. They had to make Jade lose (even if by DQ) this soon to accomodate for Bianca going far in the tourney, while Tiffany looks like a fool for losing to a one legged woman. If she wins QOTR just give her everything else so I can stop watching SmackDown already...when DID Raw and SD switch places when it comes to which show is the better booked of the two (outside of Cody and Roman less Bloodline it's just not a very interesting show atm)...why isn't Naomi in this spot? She would actually benefit from this accomplishment, man... At least she’s not playing the “so happy to be champ” bit she did the first time around. With her talent and athleticism she is infinitely better suited as an “I am better than you and I will tell you about it” heel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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