bigtplaystew Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 <p><a href="http://www.mmaweekly.com/transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-says-she-is-actually-at-a-disadvantage-to-her-opponents" rel="external nofollow">http://www.mmaweekly.com/transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-says-she-is-actually-at-a-disadvantage-to-her-opponents</a></p><p> </p><p> Thoughts? I mean I'm a wrestling fan and all, but even I'm not stupid enough to buy that the transgendered fighter is at a DISadvantage, even though the transgender doctor told us otherwise lol.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Griffin and Bonnar going into the UFC Hall of Fame together! I love it. I know some of the shertards are a little grumpy because neither had a storied career the way the other members of the Hall did, but I think their fight is important enough to be remembered. http://www.mmaweekly.com/forrest-griffin-and-stephan-bonnar-will-enter-ufc-hall-of-fame-together-in-july Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Griffin and Bonnar going into the UFC Hall of Fame together! I love it. I know some of the shertards are a little grumpy because neither had a storied career the way the other members of the Hall did, but I think their fight is important enough to be remembered. <p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.mmaweekly.com/forrest-griffin-and-stephan-bonnar-will-enter-ufc-hall-of-fame-together-in-july" rel="external nofollow">http://www.mmaweekly.com/forrest-griffin-and-stephan-bonnar-will-enter-ufc-hall-of-fame-together-in-july</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree I mean it saved the UFC and brought it into mainstream America. So you would not get any arguments from me about them going into the HOF. I know Bonnar never won a championship but the way I look at it is Ernie Banks never led the Cubs to a World Series but that does not mean he does not belong in the HOF.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Agreed with Griffin as he won the belt and was solidified himself as one of the elite. Bonnar was never anything more than a glorified gatekeeper. I get they "changed" the game together, but Bonnar doesn't deserve it IMO, as much as I am a fan of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Whether or not they were 'elite' doesn't matter, especially not in the beginning of the "era of mma". A Hall of Fame needs a couple of people who are a member more based on their status as pioneers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I see it like this: The UFC puts Griffin and Bonnar in together as a memorial of that fight. Not of their careers. It's their hall they can do what they want with it. Does Bonnar "deserve" it? In regards to his fight career it was mediocre and no. But in regards to what he and his one fight with Griffin meant for the company and why we're all watching it today, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 UK peeps, Bellator have *finally* announced the worst-kept secret in UK MMA: They have a UK TV deal! They're on VIVA, and will be airing live as of the start of the Summer series. They're going to be doing one, possibly two shows over here next year (that's the plan as of right now anyway), presumably depending on how well the TV deal goes down for them. They recently signed Rob Sinclair, Paul Sass and Martin Stapleton. Jimmy Wallhead is no longer with them though, and Cage Warriors bought out Ronnie Mann's contract. They also scouted a number of UK prospects a few weeks ago. VIVA is a free to air channel, so basically if you have a TV, you have VIVA. It's a Viacom 'shop window' channel, so basically it shows old MTV/Comedy Central re-runs like South Park, Jackass etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Well I did not see the fight but I was glad to read that Anderson Silva lost his title, mainly due to showboating. Serves him right, I hate it when fighters do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphadraighon Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <p>Silva got knocked out and he deserved it. Obviously wasn't taking the fight seriously, was showboating and fooling around, got caught BEAUTIFULLY.</p><p> </p><p> This is the clip I saw, posted on facebook by Mauro Ranallo</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPdBUwA2GQg" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPdBUwA2GQg</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alphadraighon" data-cite="alphadraighon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Silva got knocked out and he deserved it. Obviously wasn't taking the fight seriously, was showboating and fooling around, got caught BEAUTIFULLY.<p> </p><p> This is the clip I saw, posted on facebook by Mauro Ranallo</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPdBUwA2GQg" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPdBUwA2GQg</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was awesome, thank you for posting that!</p><p> </p><p> It amazes me how a fighter of Silva's caliber could do such a thing time and time again. He had to know it was only a matter of time before someone caught him and knocked him out. There is just no excuse for him losing like that. </p><p> </p><p> What sucks is now there will probably be a taint on Weidman's victory because people will ask could he have beaten Anderson, if Anderson was taking the fight seriously.</p><p> </p><p> I guess we shall find if when Anderson gets his rematch which Dana White said would happen right away if he were to lose the belt.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphadraighon Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <p>Fans are already claiming that Silva threw the fight for whatever incomprehensible reason, ranging from "he was bored with being champion" to "he knows he'll make major money off the rematch."</p><p> </p><p> Thing is, I know Dana White said he'd get the rematch...but in the post match interviews, Silva said he had no desire for a rematch at all.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Silva has such an amazing aura as the undefeatable king of fighters that Weidman will always be called a fluke winner unless he defeats Silva a second time. Considering Silva has 10 more fights or so in his contract and he says he doesn't want a rematch he will probably just fight whatever opponents he chooses and just go with the flow adding to his knockout highlight reel until he can retire.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Silva said he doesn't want the rematch for those that didn't hear. A part of me died tonight, I was so sad :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Silva said he doesn't want the rematch for those that didn't hear. A part of me died tonight, I was so sad :/</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I read that as well. The thing is Anderson has always come across as a bit of a flake to me. I am not sure why I have that impression of him but I do, anyway I am thinking that eventually he will have to fight for the title again because the money will be too much to turn down or simply because of his ego.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 During the second round of the fight it looked like Weidman was growing a little disheartened and when Silva started clowning on him I thought, right, Anderson will put him away either this or the following round. But as soon as he let Weidman tag him before pretending to be hurt, I thought, uh oh, Silva is about to be in trouble. He was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Silva throwing the fight is a ridiculous idea, but I do think he's glad/relieved he lost. He's clowned around like this before so people turning on him now is ridiculous - he got his comeuppance, and I bet there's a part of him that damn well wanted it, that didn't want to be able to do all of that and get away with it. Give him a rematch and he'll come out like a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <p>Well anyone watching the fight saw a man get KTFOed. If you don't understand the difference between getting stanky-legged the hell out versus selling a phantom blow than I don't wish to discuss MMA with you lol.</p><p> </p><p> Dude got KTFOed period. It's liek Dana said at the presser, he took chances witht he fight to knock Weidman off his game mentally, he just got caught doing it. No foul play. No "he was tired and wanted to lose the belt!" No nonsense. The champ got complacent. The dominant force losing to an underestimated opponent is a theme recurring so frequently in history that I will never understand why THAT story is harder to believe than an laborate fix would be.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloftjunkie Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 <p>His antics were silly and it reminded me of his fight with Maia, which I thought White said if he pulled again he would be fired. It didn't feel like Weidman conquered the champion and was all a big let down to me. A rematch will be a tough sell to me.</p><p> On a positive note though how about Frankie Edgar? Man I love how he fights. Class act and does it all the right way, I love this guy. That was a great fight and I think Oliveira is going to be a stud.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 <p>Had a nice laugh at the very end of UFC 162, after the main event. It's just funny how they just don't get Silva's current mindset.</p><p> </p><p> "It sounds like you have plans", Rogan said. Sounds to me he doesn't have sh*t for plans. Since he moved to America he's just been doing whatever he wants, clowning around. It "changed his life", but that does have a dubious tone to it, doesn't it?</p><p> </p><p> Joe tried to close off with the lesson that clowning just isn't for MMA. It doesn't work and it's not smart, yet what have I seen from Silva the past few years? It DOES work apparently - as he's been doing just that - and it DID entertain me because I knew he had respect for all his opponents when it was due (at the end of the fight). It entertained me just now as he was feigning falling down... well I don't want to spoil the ending to the ones who haven't seen it yet.</p><p> </p><p> He makes the right decision not to fight for the title anymore. He just doesn't care. He's been there for years. Now he just wants to live "the American way", I suppose, sitting on his popularity and allowing the headhunters to get their shot while he makes the dollars. I'd bet my hat (which is precious to me) that he'll still be clowning around at his coming fights. And I'd still want to see it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zoloftjunkie" data-cite="Zoloftjunkie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It didn't feel like Weidman conquered the champion and was all a big let down to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What fight were you watching? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> If hitting a man on the chin so he'd bounce off the canvas isn't "conquering", the Portugeze should've traded their gunpowder for soccer balls when they 'visited' Brazil a couple of centuries ago. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> No, seriously, I understand your point of view, but it can't be helped if the champ doesn't want to be "at his best" anymore. You can't force him to dedicate his life to something. It happens to a lot of great sports stars. Eventually, they just want other things. He's been shying away from top competition for a while now, but no one noticed because he still bested all his challengers while he was at it.</p><p> </p><p> There's theories circling the lower regions of the internet that he threw the fight. Personally, I do think there is some value to it. But it depends on how you call it. He had no will to win, like I said, but it's not like he handed the title on a platter.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He's been shying away from top competition for a while now</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> explain this? Has anderson ducked anyone?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>explain this? Has anderson ducked anyone?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're not going to see it on any MMA website, but it's fairly well known within the industry that some of the injury flair ups that Silva has had over the past few years have been 'dubious', and that he refused/stalled fights during contract negotiations. It's widely accepted that Silva's camps antics in this area lead to the UFC's current policy of flying fighters out to preferred doctors rather than accepting medical certificates from local docs. </p><p> </p><p> But that's not ducking fights, that's the guy at the top of the heap holding the UFC up for more money. </p><p> </p><p> I can't think of anyone Silva has ducked or avoided, fight wise. He's fought everyone at the top of the division. Guys like Bisping and Munoz fell at the final hurdle, Jacare is only now getting to the top of the heap...is there anyone else? </p><p> </p><p> I'm not counting Jones, as he's in a different division and Silva has no obligation to fight him.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloftjunkie Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 How epic would a super fight between Frankie Edgar and Urijah Faber be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Sorry, I didn't mean he ducked fights. "Shying" was a bad choice of words on my part (stupid Belgian me). REFRAINED was the word. Had to frickin' google that sh*t, can you believe that? I meant he's been holding back from his top level of performance, which should be obvious from the way he's just playing the fool during fights. Like I said: a rational man wouldn't do that. This is of course also a known tactic and can be played for entertainment's sake I guess, but why now? In his rise to the top it would've been a nice gimmick, but he didn't do it then. Now he's pretty much the best in the world: no need to use dubious tactics if you can just beat them on talent/skill alone. I'm planning to shell out 15 bucks again for the Invicta 6 show coming up. I don't like the card as much as the previous ones, but it's still quite good. And for some reason the atmosphere is always better than in the UFC. It's still serious, but I had quite a lot of laughs in the past with Invicta. That is already worth some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Now he's pretty much the best in the world: no need to use dubious tactics if you can just beat them on talent/skill alone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's lonely at the top. Silva has been the best fighter in the world for a long time and as such he can fool around because no one has been skilled enough to take it to him in a stand up fight. Not even Weidman could have defeated a serious and focused Silva but a clowning Silva can.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProphetX Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 is anyone going to watch Invicta this Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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