[RELEASE] The Main Event: Feb 1988 RW Historical Mod

[Mattywood]

Been working on some new Organic Style cuts to go along with the mod. Figured I'd go ahead and show some of them off now to keep the hype going.

 

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[ATN90]

What were they thinking when they designed that NWA logo?

[Mattywood]

What were they thinking when they designed that NWA logo?

 

I actually liked that logo! Thought it fit perfectly for that time period.

[Kijar]

Those cuts look great!

[alvarasus]

Great pics

[Mattywood]

Thanks, guys. ^_^ Been adding some angles today, working on bios for workers I already imported.

 

Question as far as naming workers go: What should I name workers such as Randy Savage who were always known as "Macho Man" Randy Savage? I was thinking of having "Macho Man" be the main worker name, and Randy Savage be the short name. Also debating what I should name the Undertaker, since this takes place in Feb 1988 and no one knew him as the Undertaker yet. At the same time, I want it to be easy for players to find him when searching the database.

[Kijar]

I think most people know the Undertaker's name is Mark Callaway, so if you set the Undertaker as an alter-ego, maybe people will get it? I'm not sure.

 

Also, I think that naming system would be unique and pretty cool.

[Mattywood]

I was leaning toward Mark Calaway as well since most everyone knows his real name. Whereas workers such as Santino Marella and Ezekiel Jackson, who most everyone have only known under those names, would be given those names, and maybe have their real names(Anthony Carelli and Rycklon Stephens respectively) as alter egos because hardly anybody would recognize those names when looking for workers in the database. BTW, Alvarasus, if you want any of those pics for your mods, feel free. And that goes for all other mod makers as well as I'm making my work freeware.

[Jaysin]

I think naming him Randy Savage is the way to go. It might be a personal thing, but it annoys me when names are "Stone Cold" Steve Austin or "Macho Man" Randy Savage, sure it's how they were introduced but it makes it look cluttered in game.

 

Stone Cold or Macho Man is good for the short name, but I don't feel like it looks right when it's used as their full name.

[Mattywood]

I think naming him Randy Savage is the way to go. It might be a personal thing, but it annoys me when names are "Stone Cold" Steve Austin or "Macho Man" Randy Savage, sure it's how they were introduced but it makes it look cluttered in game.

 

Stone Cold or Macho Man is good for the short name, but I don't feel like it looks right when it's used as their full name.

 

I could see that with Steve Austin, but with Randy Savage, how many people do you see going "Man, remember when Randy Savage did such and such?" You don't. You hear them saying "Remember when Macho Man did such and such?"

[jhd1]

First of all, if you decide to go with nicknames please, please don't use speech marks. If I know that he's under Macho Man then I'll hit the "M" key, and if I know he's under Randy Savage I'll hit "R"...if you put speech marks around "Macho Man" then it makes quickly moving through the roster a nightmare!

 

Personally, I'd go for Randy Savage. If you read results it will say Randy Savage, if you wanted to search a website for him the likelihood is you'd start under R etc. - Macho Man is just a nickname. Having the game's history say "Macho Man Brawled With Hogan" is one thing (and would be taken from his Short Name), but having "Macho Man defeated Ted DiBiase to win the WWF title" in the game's show history is a bit odd, in my opinion.

[franticloser]

I agree with jhd Use the full name leave the nickname on the short name side

[soxfan93]

I could see that with Steve Austin, but with Randy Savage, how many people do you see going "Man, remember when Randy Savage did such and such?" You don't. You hear them saying "Remember when Macho Man did such and such?"

 

But people don't say "Remember when Stone Cold did such and such?" I disagree, that's all I ever see people use.

 

Regardless, I'm with Jaysin. He was Randy Savage, not Macho Man. You wouldn't put Shawn Michaels in as "The Heartbreak Kid," would you?

[Mattywood]

Well, majority rules, so Randy Savage he will be. And no, I definitely had no plans on using quotation marks. I learned that the hard way when I was putting them in for my own personal game with a mod, lol.

 

EDIT: I should have mentioned that you all had a good point as far as how the results read Randy Savage on old match cards. So I'll go with Randy Savage as his full name, and Macho Man as his short name(same with naming his Macho King alter ego). That way, everyone is happy. Besides, if someone wants to, they can always change it after downloading the mod.

 

Speaking of, I'm doing the same with Greg Valentine. Instead of Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, his full name will be Greg Valentine, and his short name The Hammer. Now to figure out how to work in Jake Roberts' "Snake" nickname. I think I'll just stick with his bio referring to him as Jake "The Snake" Roberts, lol.

[jhd1]

I think I'll just stick with his bio referring to him as Jake "The Snake" Roberts, lol.

 

For what it's worth, that's how I'd do it. Use actual ring names, and leave all nicknames to biographies and possibly short names where appropriate.

[Mattywood]

For what it's worth, that's how I'd do it. Use actual ring names, and leave all nicknames to biographies and possibly short names where appropriate.

 

Yeah, because reading "The Snake did such and such" when reading the TEW results if "The Snake" is the short name would look a little odd. Well, to me, anyway.

[jhd1]

Yeah, because reading "The Snake did such and such" when reading the TEW results if "The Snake" is the short name would look a little odd. Well, to me, anyway.

 

Yeah, that's why I put "where appropriate". "The Snake Brawled With The Hammer" isn't the best angle summary I've seen

[Mattywood]

Yeah, that's why I put "where appropriate". "The Snake Brawled With The Hammer" isn't the best angle summary I've seen

 

At this point, I'm starting to wonder if The Hammer would be an appropriate short name, lol. I'm thinking just in the bios for that nickname.

[franticloser]

I think that's best, so unless they got called the nick name a lot i.e. Macho Man and Stone Cold. Then it should be in their bios. Exceptions being of course if the nick name was all they where known by, i.e Curt Henning being called Mr. Perfect in WWF. The only part that will suck is when the short name becomes longer then the long name. Like Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase

[Mattywood]

OK, I'm mulling over options as far as TV for the WWF goes. I've thought about having the 2 hr Prime Time Wrestling as the A show, with either Superstars or Challenge as the active B show(with one of them not being on the air, but being in the database if you want to pitch a new show to a network). I've also mulled over having Superstars as the A show, making it a 90 minute show. I know that's not completely accurate, per se, but while the player could probably run a 60 min show using their entire roster with no problem by utilizing pre and post-show, the AI most likely wouldn't and you'd get a bunch of three match cards based on what I've seen in playthroughs on other mods that had 1 hr shows. Or, I could really throw a curveball and have Saturday Night's Main Event as the WWF's A show, and make either Superstars or Challenge as the B show.

 

I think that's best, so unless they got called the nick name a lot i.e. Macho Man and Stone Cold. Then it should be in their bios. Exceptions being of course if the nick name was all they where known by, i.e Curt Henning being called Mr. Perfect in WWF

 

Yeah, that's what I'm going with. And nicknames like Macho Man and Stone Cold could be short names.

[franticloser]

Main Event wasn't really a show as it was a special, I would have Challenge,Superstars, and Primetime with Superstars and Prime time the a shows and Challenge the b as that's the way it was set up then

[castorius]

Main Event wasn't really a show as it was a special, I would have Challenge,Superstars, and Primetime with Superstars and Prime time the a shows and Challenge the b as that's the way it was set up then

 

My memory is a little hazy, but wasn't "The Main Event" a yearly event that was staged a few weeks before Wrestlemania to provide one last big event to setup Wrestlemania?

 

And Saturday Night's Main Event was a monthly event that was essentially at the prestige level of weekly shows today.

 

Back then, just about every weekly show was practically a B show - no big matches were generally aired during the regular weekly shows (I believe WWF Superstars of Wrestling had like one decent notable match as the main event generally).

 

Then Saturday Night's Main Event would allow for some decent matches between "Superstars" - this is where they allowed lower midcarders/midcarders get beat by those higher up on the card, while the show pretty much had no jobbers unlike the weekly shows (then again, you can probably call Lower Midcarders like Koko B. Ware and Blue Blazer the "Superstars' Jobbers").

 

The times have really changed nowadays, as people expect weekly shows to be at the quality of monthly shows back then - people won't tolerate the weekly crapfests they used to have back in the day (which mostly involved a superstar beating the crap out of an enhancement talent and a few notable angles).

 

I realize that you can't setup every weekly show to be a B show in TEW without screwing something up, but I'm just stating how times have changed and the expectations have changed in wrestling. Funny enough, I watched those weekly shows religiously - and they made the monthly cards and bigger events that much more exciting. There was more build up back then, and you were teased so often. Nowadays, weekly shows allow for so many good matchups between good wrestlers. Nowadays, nobody would tolerate a monthly event with Ted DiBiase beating the living snot out of Koko B. Ware to get his cred up.

 

With wrestling today, there is a good chance that a matchup combination in Wrestlemania had already been aired during one of the weekly Monday Night Raw shows, whereas back then you could forget it - Wrestlemania would stage matches that you never would have ever seen on a weekly show ever.

[Mattywood]

Main Event wasn't really a show as it was a special, I would have Challenge,Superstars, and Primetime with Superstars and Prime time the a shows and Challenge the b as that's the way it was set up then

 

This is another scenario I thought about too. And that's part of the reason I've been creating some WWF Event Center and Live Event News type angles for the database so that you can get several workers on-screen if you're running out of room on the card.

[Mattywood]

For setting tag teams that eventually debuted in the WWF but haven't yet, if I set them up as a WWF team(that way if the AI is running WWF, they're more likely to set them up as a tag team), should they be regular or inactive regular?

[Kijar]

Probably inactive regular.