The Mod Squad

[MarslArts]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tardelli" data-cite="Tardelli" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It´s done when its done is the obvious answer. Personally i think, Summer of Punk wont come out this year.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At least that's a call! Thank you!</p>

[IronWarrior22]

Download link not working

 

Whenever I try to download the data for 'The Superfly Effect' it takes me to a page that says 404 Not Found. Any help is much appreciated.

[hammerglenn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="IronWarrior22" data-cite="IronWarrior22" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whenever I try to download the data for 'The Superfly Effect' it takes me to a page that says 404 Not Found. Any help is much appreciated.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> download from here. it works fine</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.wrestlingnexus.com/nexus/?p=29" rel="external nofollow">http://www.wrestlingnexus.com/nexus/?p=29</a></p>

[Lucas]

All the links in the OP are broke so your best bet is the website or mod installer.

[sabataged]

<p>Is there a valid link for the Montreal Aftermath?</p><p> </p><p>

Ignore I seen the post here at the end after I made this thread. Thanks</p>

[Adam Ryland]

NB: I've deleted several posts of an ugly argument so that it won't fester or continue.

[Fleisch]

Hey, just saw a weird thing, apparently Nova(as in Simon Dean) is listed as being a blood relative of El Dandy and El Texano in the Montreal Aftermath mod.

 

But then again, to quote a certain Canadian, who am I to doubt El Dandy?

 

Edit: I also noticed in the same mod that Taiyo Kea is in there twice, once as Mossman with Kea as an Alter Ego and just Taiyo Kea

 

There is a Super Nova in Mexico who is related to them (he is El Texano Jr's brother). I think Simon Deans default name was Nova in the data (IIRC).

[Lucas]

<p>Just to be clear to answer any questions about the availability of mod downloads. </p><p> </p><p>

We've discontinued the downloads of mods through the installer and the website until further notice. This is in light of the planned changes that were announced without consultation of mod makers. The decision was not taken lightly and done to protect the integrity of the work of individual contributors to our mods for TEW16.</p><p> </p><p>

A full statement is on our Discord tew-talk channel in the pinned messages. </p><p> </p><p>

You can read that, and join the channel there:</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="https://discord.gg/7dEZ6wj" rel="external nofollow">Click here to join the Nexus Discord Server</a></p><p> </p><p>

Any questions, please drop me a PM. I might not always be on the board, but I will get notifications if you send a message so will get back to you.</p><p> </p><p>

Thanks.</p>

[Hollywood]

In all honesty, I feel as if you guys are overreacting to everything by pulling your mods. Nothing official has been decided and Adam was throwing a potential idea out to the forum.

[Lucas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hollywood" data-cite="Hollywood" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In all honesty, I feel as if you guys are overreacting to everything by pulling your mods. Nothing official has been decided and Adam was throwing a potential idea out to the forum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Previous posts have been removed by moderators already. I’ve made the statement, very happy to talk about it and discuss over PM or on the Discord.</p><p> </p><p> IMHO in general, the decision what to do with one person’s work should by them or be taken into consideration with the person(s) that have done the work. Throwing a “potential idea” not only goes past that, but actively discourages those who have spent literally hundreds of hours in creating content, or paying to host services like the website and fileserver. I won’t be making any comment about specific polls, threads, individuals or moderators/management of the board. That is really not at issue. </p><p> </p><p> I will say it’s definitely not an overreaction. Nexus is merely a host for content (this costs money to run), hosted at the consent and encouragement of the people who made mods. Until such “decisions” are clear or the modders say otherwise, they will stay down. </p><p> </p><p> We’d definitely welcome being able to give constructive feedback and discuss without plastering it over the boards. </p><p> </p><p> It’s not a surprise the poll when it closed indicated people wanted it open and freeware without the common courtesy of asking for consent from people who made the work. End of the day, the actual mods themselves are not free. It does pay to be nice though - just ask. We’re open to that as mentioned many times and discussing further. </p><p> </p><p> Cheers.</p>

[Kosmos412]

Oh well.

[KillVisionPlays]

How long in is the 2011 mod because I really want to play with DG in 2011 and book Blood Warriors vs Junction 3

[Lucas]

<p>You must have missed the part where I said “PM me” if they need anything. </p><p>

What’s petty, immature and ridiculous is your response, throwing snide remarks while claiming to be helpful (again, I’ve already said to PM me...).</p><p>

Nothing in my posts were unreasonable. Maybe you would understand if you were in the modders shoes. </p><p>

If you’re looking for an argument please go take it somewhere else.</p>

[Kingster]

<p>God, you guys take yourselves and your work super-seriously, don't you? </p><p>

Adam has already stated that the proposed changes are being put on ice, even though a big majority was in favour of the changes. </p><p>

Everything stays the same at the moment, partly thanks to Genadi campaigning for it single-handedly in the poll thread against the majority's opinion, so there really is no need to pull all your mods. </p><p>

I can imagine how hard it it is to make these mods and how much work goes into it, I really can. And I agree that asking for permission and giving credit to use your mods is the correct and only way to go. I also agree that even though your mods are based in the real world, they should be considered your creation. </p><p>

But you're making this into a much much bigger deal than it is. There's no money taken out of your pocket or anything like that. I think you guys should stop and remember that if it weren't for Adam Ryland and GDS, you guys wouldn't be making these mods and wouldn't have that much success with it.</p><p>

You guys should consider yourself lucky (some might say powerful enough on these forums) that Adam gave in to your campaigning and stopped the rule change.</p>

[Lucas]

<p>Super seriously? Not really. I've already covered this above what the views are.</p><p> </p><p>

"On ice" would suggest that this would be pushed through at a later date, so I can understand why its not gone down particularly well and the mods were pulled.</p>

[Kingster]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did you read the thread before my posts were deleted?</div></blockquote><p> I read the whole thread and even posted my opinion, partly agreeing with you, yes. Thank you. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kingster" data-cite="Kingster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I read the whole thread and even posted my opinion, partly agreeing with you, yes. Thank you. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mate, you didn't. If you read my original posts that were deleted for no reason other than Adam saying "He's bitter" while failing to reply to any of the facts I outlined you'd know that I was the most outspoken critic against the rules in the first place. It was at a time all of my mods were freeware, heck I even created a mission statement outlining exactly that. That's just one of the misconceptions I've noticed from many people and understandably so. The posts I made explaining the history and my PoV were deleted so how would anyone know.</p><p> </p><p> Of all of this, the irony has been the most startling thing.</p>

[Genadi]

Oops Double Post.

[Genadi]

<p>Dude what power play?</p><p> </p><p>

Luca has spent money out of his own pocket to host these mods for years now. He's never asked for anything in return. </p><p> </p><p>

Adam made a disingenuous hypocritical thread with a poll attached. I didn't break one forum rule and followed his suggestion for conversation. I pointed out in great detail fact after fact that displayed how he was being disingenuous and hypocritical. Those posts were deleted and the thread locked. He asked for a conversation then within a day suddenly doesn't want one. His stance is now "I'll wait and see when 20 is released". </p><p> </p><p>

Luca's stance in direct reply to that is "Why am I paying to host these things when Adam and GDS mods conduct themselves in this manner" If you can give him good reason to continue to pay out of his own pocket to support Adam and GDS in light of this I'd love to hear it.</p><p> </p><p>

The mods haven't been deleted or made unavailable. That's fake news spread by Adam's lapdogs because they know they won't be banned.</p><p> </p><p>

Edit - BC you're a long time member I respect, someone who's always been friendly and supportive. Kinda sad even you're falling for the GDS tagline being rolled out.</p>

[TsuMirren]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kingster" data-cite="Kingster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>God, you guys take yourselves and your work super-seriously, don't you? <p> </p><p> I can imagine how hard it it is to make these mods and how much work goes into it, I really can. There's no money taken out of your pocket or anything like that. I think you guys should stop and remember that if it weren't for Adam Ryland and GDS, you guys wouldn't be making these mods and wouldn't have that much success with it.</p><p> You guys should consider yourself lucky (some might say powerful enough on these forums) that Adam gave in to your campaigning and stopped the rule change.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, collectively we are the best group of historical real world Modder. Mammoth does great work too, but he's not a group so evidently I'm not taking a pop at him here.</p><p> </p><p> No, no you can't imagine anything close. I couldn't before I started, ergo neither can you.</p><p> </p><p> "no money" aside from the magazines, programmes, DVDs and books purchased in order to get more information. </p><p> </p><p> Oh wait so without the game being available we wouldn't be able to play it or mod it. Wow, I had not realised that. Thank you for pointing that out.</p><p> </p><p> Lucky? Nooooooooo, no no no, it's the mod users who are lucky here. Lucky that you have mods.</p><p> </p><p> I thought Adam was only floating a potential change that we were all then discussing ahead of it potentially going through. Adam wants more mod forum work, more forum activity and to stimulate output. I've no idea why anyone would firstly not engage with mod makers first and/or then take pot shots at them (the pot shots are of course not coming from Adam). Just try setting up a stall offering free shoes made out of A4 paper and call yourself Timpson, see how you get on.</p><p> </p><p> Here's a thought though. Why aren't their mods from 2011 to 2016? Surely a group of you jut need to steal Fleisch or Who's work then back mod it. You've all read our threads, so you'll know data sources, you'll know what to change and how to get your cuts done. Not like you need to watch footage, read too much stuff, join facebook groups (some closed to general fans) or spend time checking facts and making sure you've covered everything. That'd be silly, that's how you get an ego. The game has been out over 2 years, maybe it's more than us being us. Maybe there is actually a skill to modding, I can "imagine" that's the case.</p>

[SM27]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Come on guys, this is totally foolish. Most of the people that play your mods have no earthly idea what went on yesterday, or care to know. They just want to play your mods. This will just lead to people putting up tons of mirrors of your mods to help people play them.<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I literally just made this account to comment. I'm a long time casual player who doesn't get up in forum business because I'm too busy playing the game. But I thought i'd support the first part of Broken Cycle's comment. I have no idea what you guys are arguing about. I have no idea what caused the argument and why the mods are being removed. I am literally only here because its Christmas and I thought the Summer of Punk mod might have finally been released, but instead I walk in on this. </p><p> </p><p> As someone who has both A) Walked in on this whole argument B) No idea whats going on. I'd like to say without <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>context</strong></span> this whole thing/post kind of makes you look bad/the villain (and all the other things people have said previously). I know it sounds hurtful especially since I know you have spent months in making these mods but without context, you are looking bad. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact. </p><p> </p><p> Remember I am literally only here because I was waiting for the summer of punk mod. I can't stress enough that I have no clue what is going on but I speak for my fellow casuals and people with no accounts when I say, could you enlighten us of the situation? </p><p> </p><p> I just thought I'd point this out as an example of an actual casual player who contributes zero to the community.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: You can tell that I am new because I don't even know how to quote...</p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SM27" data-cite="SM27" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I literally just made this account to comment. I'm a long time casual player who doesn't get up in forum business because I'm too busy playing the game. But I thought i'd support the first part of Broken Cycle's comment. I have no idea what you guys are arguing about. I have no idea what caused the argument and why the mods are being removed. I am literally only here because its Christmas and I thought the Summer of Punk mod might have finally been released, but instead I walk in on this. </p><p> </p><p> As someone who has both A) Walked in on this whole argument B) No idea whats going on. I'd like to say without <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>context</strong></span> this whole thing/post kind of makes you look bad/the villain (and all the other things people have said previously). I know it sounds hurtful especially since I know you have spent months in making these mods but without context, you are looking bad. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact. </p><p> </p><p> Remember I am literally only here because I was waiting for the summer of punk mod. I can't stress enough that I have no clue what is going on but I speak for my fellow casuals and people with no accounts when I say, could you enlighten us of the situation? </p><p> </p><p> I just thought I'd point this out as an example of an actual casual player who contributes zero to the community.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: You can tell that I am new because I don't even know how to quote...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Of course it does, the posts I made explaining our PoV and the history and facts behind all this were deleted almost as soon as it was posted. There's not much I can say other than everyone's welcome to join us for discussion as always we are all open books. We've not deleted a post ever, discussion does not scare us.</p>

[SM27]

<p>Well...</p><p> </p><p>

you could post the summer of punk mod and have your point of view, history and facts in the bios of each member of the McMahon family?</p><p> </p><p>

that way it can't be deleted. us casuals understand what's going on and I selfishly get the 2011 mod I've been waiting so long for...</p><p> </p><p>

otherwise I will speak for my fellow casuals and say we likely won't care about what's going on as it's too much effort to hunt down the facts. Sorry.</p><p> </p><p>

I likely have nothing more to contribute to this discussion/argument so I will just let you guys continue...Just remember not to get too stressed by a game. remember why you got into it in the first place. I am a casino dealer and as the old gambling saying goes "once the fun stops. Stop."</p><p> </p><p>

P.S I may as well say thank you for the Montreal mod and wCw lives mod while I am here...fantastic work. *fades back into the shadows*</p>

[BrokenCycle]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What was the obvious reason we did it? Please don't imply things. I'm done with double talk, say what you mean to say so I can tell you if it's true or not. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The same reasons why you own your website, have your own dedicated forum post where you link to your website, force people to register on your website to download the content of your website (I believe? Not sure, I'm already registered...), have you own mod installer, and so on.... I dunno. I don't think this is really that relevant to what I was trying to say ("Put them back up.").</p>

[TsuMirren]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41430" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The same reasons why you own your website, have your own dedicated forum post where you link to your website, force people to register on your website to download the content of your website (I believe? Not sure, I'm already registered...), have you own mod installer, and so on.... I dunno. I don't think this is really that relevant to what I was trying to say ("Put them back up.").</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Football Manager has umpteen unofficial sites and they get none of this immature trash! Take a step back and consider just what you're doing here. Nexus was somewhere we could collaborate, bounce discussion around and it was an easy place for people to come along and engage with us. Most of us came off here as there's no backstage area here for modders to bounce and develop ideas. One mention on here and you get message after message demanding a release. So what if you had to register? It's such a non-event, you do it everywhere as it is.</p><p> </p><p> It wasn't a power trip, it was just easier for us...the mod builders...and didn't exclude anyone. I hate using the term agendas, but only someone with one could complain about a site that provides focus and enables engagement.</p>