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Foreword: So, with the permission of one of its original creators (Mr T Jobs to Me), I've been working in secret to bring back my personal favorite mod in the history of TEW: The 70's C-Verse. I started last year, but the eventuality (and eventual reality) of a TEW 2016 lead me to putting it on the shelf. When TEW 2016 released, however, I spent a couple weeks playing around in the new game... and then I started modding in earnest.

 

And mod I have, as nearly every day for the last few weeks I've been finding time to dick around in "That 70's" period. It's been slow, tedious work, but the end goal is too rewarding to let that stand in my way. As a result, I've recently completed a goal I set as my first "major" milestone, meaning I feel I've come far enough along to announce my work on this project.

 

So here I am, typing on a computer with a (mostly) working version of the 70s CornellVerse for TEW 2016 on my laptop. Now let me be clear, this is NOT a continuation of 70s C-Verse. Instead, what I have is a straight conversion of the most recent version of the mod, made way back in 2010, and my goal is simply to polish up the mod into the most complete, detailed version that I can possibly do. Mostly, this means modding in all those features (employment history, variable body sizes, body types, workers based in specific regions, ect), along with identifying all the workers that were brought into existence in TEWs 13 and 16 that didn't exist when this mod was last released. I made the decision to not progress from January 1977 for a few reasons:

 

 

1. I've never taken on a task of this scale in terms of modding before, and trying to figure out the state of everything in 1978+ is just an even bigger load. Seeing as how at the moment I'm going solo, it seemed reasonable to not overload myself.

2. Honestly, to me the start of 1977 is about as late as the date can be pushed for this to still be the same time period. Later in 1977, canonically, APWF shutters its doors, with many of the other promotions of the era following soon after. The changes just around the corner are too dramatic and would be a new project to itself, separate from "That 70's Mod".

3. By keeping it simple, it'll be easier to create a base from which to work in other directions in the future, should I or someone else decide to do something like create C-Verse 1980s OR even rollback the clock to 1975, the oldest start date to ever exist in the C-Verse.

 

 

But enough of all those background details, let's dig into the mod itself and take an overall look at the state of the world itself at the start of 1977, on the eve of the death of the territories...

 

USA

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The United States is, truly, the centerpiece of the CornellVerse in the 1970s. Numerous powerful, yet regional, companies still dot the land with a handful of smaller promotions trying to find their way. These larger territories: TWL, APWF, AAFW, CPW, and CWB, are the original powers on the American scene, having dominated the American landscape since the 1960s. But there's doom on the horizon in the form of the all-consuming SWF under the guidance of the ruthless, business savvy youngster Richard Eisen, the definitive most powerful wrestling promotion in the nation (if not the world). The territories have all seen many of their best and brightest signed away by SWF, leaving many of them struggling critically, and financially, as they fight to stave off SWF's tyranny. As a whole, however, the nation is still rich in wrestling talent and many workers remain either loyal to the territories or have flown under the giant's radar. While SWF vies for global domination, one can still see wild brawls down south in All American Florida Wrestling or the Texas Wrestling League, choose an alternative to entertainment in APWF, enjoy definitive old school traditions of CWB, catch high paced action in CPW, or even risk getting shot by attending a show for HWA. The possibilities for the future of American wrestling in 1977 are, truly, endless.

 

Cult

 

Supreme Wrestling Federation

(SWF)

Location: New England

Owner: Richard Eisen

Style: New School Entertainment

 

 

Regional

 

All American Florida Wrestling

(AAFW)

Location: South East

Owner: Dick the Devastator

Style: Schizophrenic Traditional

 

American Pro Wrestling Federation

(APWF)

Location: Tri-State

Owner: Terry Lambert

Style: Semi-Mainstream Traditional

 

California Pro Wrestling

(CPW)

Location: South West

Owner: Preston Holt

Style: Diverse Pure

 

Championship Wrestling from Boston

(CWB)

Location: New England

Owner: Gene Plumelli

Style: Brawler-Friendly Traditional

 

Texas Wrestling League

(TWL)

Location: Mid South

Owner: The Lone Star Stampeder

Style: Texas Traditional

 

 

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American Independent Circuit Wrestling

(AICW)

Location: Great Lakes

Owner: Dale Christian

Style: Traditional, Leaning Pure

 

Welcome to the Islands Wrestling

(WIW)

Location: Hawaii

Owner: Kai Kuhaulua

Style: US/Japan PuroTradition

 

 

Local

Chicago Championship Wrestling

(CCW)

Location: Great Lakes

Owner: The Minnesota Mauler

Style: Rookie/Veteran Teams

 

Flint Athletic Grappling

(FAG)

Location: Great Lakes

Owner: Jackie Moon

Style: Theatrical Entertainment

 

Harlem Wrestling Alliance

(HWA)

Location: Tri-State

Owner: Mr. G

Style: Gangland Hardcore

 

 

Canada

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Canada has, for much of wrestling history, been rather quiet. While the homeland to many of the greatest wrestlers of the era, such as Dan Stone, Jackson Andrews, and George DeColt, Canada itself never had a major promotion to call its very own until the middle of the 1970s. Early 1975, however, finally saw that change with the emergence of the Canadian Wrestling Federation. Founded by the legendary Ed "The Strangler" Henson, CWF has quickly drawn many of Canada's finest sons and daughters of pro-wrestling back home. Outside of CWF's early successes, the Canadian scene remain relatively quiet, mostly the home of independent workers and a few lucky enough to tour with AICW's offshoot company, CICW, hoping to catch the attention of a larger company.

Cult

 

Canadian Wrestling Federation

(CWF)

Location: Alberta

Owner: Ed Henson

Style: Full Traditional

 

 

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Canadian Independent Circuit Wrestling

(CICW)

Location: Quebec

Owner: Bill Dennison

Style: Fan Friendly Independent

 

Mexico

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Mexico is at war! With itself! Home currently to only two promotions, Mexico is currently locked in a bitter rivalry between the oldest active promotion in the world, OLLIE, and their upstart rivals MPWF (founded by a group of OLLIE's biggest stars who were disenchanted with OLLIE). OLLIE have spent two decades now dominating Mexican wrestling, often with less than legal practices, but a young MPWF is now giving them their first ever serious competition. Home now to some of the greatest luchadores the world will ever see, including the living legend El Patron, the Mexican scene is a place filled with over the top characters, high flying action, and some of the craziest gimmicks the wrestling world will ever see. Down here, good guys are good, and rudos are the most cartoonishly despicable creatures on the face of the planet.

 

 

National

 

Original Lucha Libre in Exito

(OLLIE)

Owner: Sergio Barbosa

Location: West Central Mexico

Style: Lucha Libre

 

 

Regional

 

Mexico Premier Wrestling Federation

(MPWF)

Owner: El Barbaro

Location: Northern Mexico

Style: Lucha Libre

 

The British Isles

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Like much of the world, wrestling is still very young in the UK. Home starting in 1970 to UKWA, a company that aimed to bring together the best of British wrestling under one roof, the British wrestling world was dealt a significant setbacks when UKWA's owner pulled out his investment, leaving his creation to die. The result was many of the British Isles' best finding working in America, Japan, or Europe, though a few have remained and joined the recently founded RWA, currently the only promotion in all of England (which was founded purely to take advantage of the downfall of UKWA).

 

Local

 

Royal Wrestling Association

(RWA)

Location: South England

Owner: Wendell Williams

Style: UK Pure

 

 

Japan

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According to many, Japan is the true birthplace of professional wrestling in the CornellVerse. Back in the 1920s and 1930s, Japan was home to the massive and successful Giant Pro Wrestling, the first major wrestling promotion in the entire world. GPW was originally a massive success, enjoying over a decade and a half of prosperity... until it didn't. What happened now is only spoken of in hushed whispers and shadowy rumors, much of the facts now mixed in with foreboding legend. Whether the truth is, something terrible happened in GPW, a conspiracy that permeated the promotion from the top to the bottom. Dishonored and shame, GPW closed its doors in 1933, leaving a black stain on the Japanese wrestling industry in the process. What followed was the "Japanese Dark Age" of wrestling where no major companies rose to take the place of GPW and fewer and fewer sought the join the profession. And so it remained until the 1950s, when a new generation of wrestlers began to appear across the nation who were free of GPW's taint.

 

This renewed interest in Japanese wrestling culminated in the May of 1960 with the opening of GCG, the first major company in the nation in over two decades. GCG had a brief moment of unrivaled dominance in Japan, but soon found themselves challenged in 1966 by the creation of BHOTWG in 1966 which created a huge exodus of GCG's stars to the newly founded rival. The two companies have been locked in a bitter conflict ever since. While The Big Two are still the powers in Japan, the rebirth of the wrestling scene has also seen the rise of various other, smaller promotions and even the formation of major female promotions, the first of their kind in the world.

 

 

 

National

 

Golden Canvas Grappling

(GCG)

Location: Kinki

Owner: Junichi Monou

Style: Golden Age Puroresu

 

Burning Hammer of the Wrestling Gods

(BHOTWG)

Location: Kanto

Owner: Idetada Watanabe

Style: Elemental Era Puroresu

 

 

Cult

 

Japanese Women's Wrestling

(JWW)

Location: Shikoku

Owner: Nakamura Miharu

Style: Golden Age Joshi

 

 

Regional

 

QUEST: Heritage Wrestling

(QUEST)

Location: Kinki

Owner: Uroko Saki

Style: GPW Throwback

 

 

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Tokyo City Championship Combat

(TC3)

Location: Kanto

Owner: Kien Shih

Style: Physical Pure Wrestling

 

Yokohama Pro-Women's Wrestling

(YPWW)

Location: Kanto

Owner: Morita Kozuma

Style: Sponsor Friendly Joshi

 

 

Europe

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There isn't much happening in Europe at the start of 1977, with only a single promotion (the tiny, recently founded West Berlin Wrestling) active in the entire continent. With the Cold War in full swing this probably shouldn't come as much of a surprise, but it hasn't stopped a few talented workers from springing up around Europe. While Europe may not be a hotbed of activity at the moment, it's still the jumping off point for numerous wrestlers looking to become the next big thing in Japan or America, with those who elect to stay home giving a glimmer of hope that the current state of European wrestling is only the start of things to come. And what it does have is a truly eclectic mix of various styles and backgrounds coming together to create a truly unique environment in the 70s CornellVerse. Most ominously, however, is the recent reports that bull sharks have begun to mass off the coast of Norway as the ghostly sounds of old Viking horns can be heard resounding through the fjords, seemingly ushering the sharks in...

 

 

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West Berlin Wrestling

(WBW)

Location: Central Europe

Owner: Jan Stuessen

Style: Berlin City Traditional

 

Australia

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Australia is currently a wrestling wasteland, home to only a handful of independent workers with no major promotions in sight. Walleye Conklin, a man who legend has it has wrestled on all seven continents (including an amazing match against an emperor penguin named "Nero" on Antarctica) has recently hung up his boots and returned home, aiming to train the first ever true generation of Australian wrestling stars. Whether or not he succeeds and it takes several more decades for their to be a real Australian wrestling scene remains to be seen...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And that's where we are, folks. I've got a lot done but there's a lot more to do before this is truly ready to release. If you were to load up the game right now, however, it would look nearly complete... but that's because (almost) all my time has been spent working on active promotions and workers so far! The next big step, which I've already started, is to clean up workers set to debut after January 1977, along with identifying and importing those that aren't in the database yet.

 

 

How Can You Help?

The one thing I absolutely CANNOT do myself? Renders. There's still plenty of workers, even those active in 77, that lack a proper render OR just have really, really outdated renders that still need a proper replacement. So if there's any render makers out there that want to help out, I'd gladly take it.

 

Otherwise it's all data, and that I can handle. If it becomes too much for me I'll see if there's any jobs I can pass off to folks who also want to see this 100% finished.

 

 

Workers Needing Render Love

Acacia Wallace

Bernard Watson

Bernardo Cruz

Bloody Takai

Bobby Dee

Bobby Trebek

Brad McKenna

Cap Comiskey

Carl Strickland

Charles Barclay (think used to use Charles Avatar's image?)

Cherry Tanizaka

Cho Hayashi

Cornelius Banks

Cristobal Sanchez

Croup OR Cueball Clayton (they have the same render)

Dane Barrow

Danny Vargas

Daren Miller

David Crane

Day-Glo Joe (used to use RandomMale)

Dee Ray Morton (another RandomMale)

Diane Mien

Drake Moxley

E.J. Lozano

Ed Monix

El Coche

Felix Moya

Fiendish Fred

Finn Jansen

Francois Descartes

Fudo Arai

Glen Davies

Gustavo Sanchez

Hank Jacobs

Hideo Hara

Hiroko Iwate

Ikkei Saibara

Ira Hixenbaugh

Jake Sloan

Jay Jay Wilson

Jerrod Whitlock

Jerry Sanchez

Jiro Yamagata

Joe Dorado

Joey Moore

Katsuyo Nagashima

Kazuko Hiroyuki

Kazutoshi Hakugi

Kelvin Avery

Kensao Tokunaga

Kenshin Matsueda

Kento Kamida

Kim Jong Li (only existed in 2005 data)

Kurt Longfellow

Lawrence Knight

Leo King

Luis Alarcon

Luis Nani

Lyall Sinclair

Mack Gregor

Mariko Hamada

Marquis McKinley

Marvin Ainscough

Mass Hysteria

Mick Carver

Miracle Fujita

Miyuki Miharu

Norm Smith

Nyoko Toshitala

Paolo Salvatore

Pat Emersly

Peach Suzuki

Pete Jones

Peter Smythe

Pops Santoro

Prince Jafar (had a RandomMale... that I loathe)

Rico Santino (not to be confused with Rico Santana, apparently)

Riku Ketola

Rob Dingle

Sabine Molyneux

Scootsie Double Day

Serenity Weaver

Shade Sakimoto

Shay Jacoby

Sherman Quarles (only existed in earlier data, may have been morphed into "Sherman the Butler" but seems like a distinct person)

Shun Watari

Sir Dance-A-Lot

Spike Ulbrecht (only existed in 2005 data)

Steve Levinson

Takanori Fujii

Takayuki TURBO (apparently used Takayuki Avatar image)

Takeichi Satoh

Takemi Kondou

Tatsuki Miyata

Tetsuya Najahara

The Blackpool Bandit

The Madman From Yellowknife

The Valedictorian

Theo Epscott

Theodore Ward

Thunderbird

Tigress Okada

Tsurushi Kamon

Tuck Wrobel

Twiggy Munson

Vaughn Reynolds

Vigo Vandal

Volcano

Walt Cobb

Wayne Anderson

Wayne Mooney

Will Briggs

William Hennigan

Yasunobu Kishita

Yatil Hunsacker

 

 

 

Release Date: When it's done... though I'm aiming for around the end of the month. No promises, though, beyond that this is being released and I'm putting some incredible time into making sure that happens.

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<p>Great news! I started playing the 77 CVerse in a privately converted TEW13 version and I'm really looking forward to your official update of it.</p><p> </p><p>

I created a couple of renders specifically for Japanese workers that I used in my own 77 games. Most of those are included in TEW16 as free pictures but again feel free to take anything you may have use for from my phonobucket library <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

<a href="http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Shinsuke87/library/myrenders" rel="external nofollow">http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/Shinsuke87/library/myrenders</a></p>

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<p>If you need any help, just ask. I've made mods of the C-Verse before (CV2001, which I might put out for TEW2016) and I'm fairly knowledgeable about the 70s CV mods. Personally I preferred CV75 to CV77, as in CV75 the territories are still strong, but in CV77 you can start to see SWF beginning their death by a 1000 cuts campaign start to take effect. </p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, I've got all the renders from original release of that 70's mod (or at least I think I do), so if you're missing any ask me if I've got them and I'll see what I can come up with.</p><p> </p><p>

Today I might look at the renders for CV70s characters and see if I can make any edits that might make them look better or be nice as alts. But that said, CV70s had/has some AWESOME renders; whoever did the Japanese Joshis in particular did an awesome job.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you need any help, just ask. I've made mods of the C-Verse before (CV2001, which I might put out for TEW2016) and I'm fairly knowledgeable about the 70s CV mods. Personally I preferred CV75 to CV77, as in CV75 the territories are still strong, but in CV77 you can start to see SWF beginning their death by a 1000 cuts campaign start to take effect. <p> </p><p> Anyway, I've got all the renders from original release of that 70's mod (or at least I think I do), so if you're missing any ask me if I've got them and I'll see what I can come up with.</p><p> </p><p> Today I might look at the renders for CV70s characters and see if I can make any edits that might make them look better or be nice as alts. But that said, CV70s had/has some AWESOME renders; whoever did the Japanese Joshis in particular did an awesome job.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think I have at least almost every render, too. When I get a chance I plan to dig through the old 2010 thread and see if there's any that got posted there I still need. I also need to weed out the workers that have renders, they're just not properly assigned because of typos or name changes throughout iterations of TEW (like the Biggz Boys, who I already fixed). </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Oh, and I KNOW there's two workers that definitely don't have renders 100%, because they seemingly ceased to exist after the very first 75 mod. They were probably edited to be different characters, like how Knockout Jones was clearly repackaged as Jacoby Jones, but unlike Jacoby whoever they are now is so distinct that they're different people.</p>
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<p>By the way, what are your thoughts on FAG? </p><p> </p><p>

I think it could work as a comedy promotion (especially now that TEW2016 has the comedy match aim), but I think it should have a few wrestlers on the roster who are now just from the movie Semi-Pro, so that's it's not so reliant on the movie as it's basis.</p>

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<p>Awesome to see this getting updated. I did some of the work on Japan for the last release, so if you need any help with anything, shoot me a PM. If I can find the time, I'll see if I can get a few new renders together.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>By the way, what are your thoughts on FAG? <p> </p><p> I think it could work as a comedy promotion (especially now that TEW2016 has the comedy match aim), but I think it should have a few wrestlers on the roster who are now just from the movie Semi-Pro, so that's it's not so reliant on the movie as it's basis.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always thought it was a little out of place in the mod, personally. It's a fun idea and I think it can work in the universe, but I'd like to see the direct movie references dropped. Grand Rapids Athletic Brawling? Jackie Starr? I guess that might not work, what with Mickey Starr being in his prime, but something like that. Nothing major, just so it feels like it wasn't cut and pasted from the movie.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>By the way, what are your thoughts on FAG? <p> </p><p> I think it could work as a comedy promotion (especially now that TEW2016 has the comedy match aim), but I think it should have a few wrestlers on the roster who are now just from the movie Semi-Pro, so that's it's not so reliant on the movie as it's basis.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jtlant" data-cite="jtlant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Awesome to see this getting updated. I did some of the work on Japan for the last release, so if you need any help with anything, shoot me a PM. If I can find the time, I'll see if I can get a few new renders together.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I always thought it was a little out of place in the mod, personally. It's a fun idea and I think it can work in the universe, but I'd like to see the direct movie references dropped. Grand Rapids Athletic Brawling? Jackie Starr? I guess that might not work, what with Mickey Starr being in his prime, but something like that. Nothing major, just so it feels like it wasn't cut and pasted from the movie.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm of a similar mindset. While a company that exists as a huge reference to the film is amusing, it feels a little too on the nose. Wouldn't mind changing the name of the company and some of its characters, but by and large it should remain as it is: a zany, theatrical cash grab by an out of shape, semi-pro basketball player and his friends.</p>
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<p>Alright, I've gone through and assigned a silly amount of pictures to some who didn't have any assigned, primarily guys with typos or names that have changed over time.</p><p> </p><p>

Still sitting at just a wee north of 100 folks in the database without renders. A few of these guys it's just a matter of me downloading pics from older versions (Ultra Atlantis, for example, is now Uhtred The Viking and the Ultra Atlantis render isn't in the 2016 picture pack).</p><p> </p><p>

I'll weed out the "Ultra Atlantises" and compile a list of the others to put here and see if we can't find them a new look. I'd like to avoid delving too deeply into the "free pictures", as I can't help but feel this database will ultimately work best with random workers being generated to help fill the worker gaps of the 1980s. A few, sure, but ideally the bulk of those will remain free for the generator.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

And I also know there's at least a few workers currently with no picture assigned who used to use the old "Random Male" images from way back when. For guys like Day Glo Joe this may not be an issue and I can grab the old image, but still wouldn't complain if someone thinks they can give them a facelift.</p><p> </p><p>

Especially Prince Jafar: always a character that seemed interesting to bring in, always turned off by the dated generic render he was saddled with, with its goofy grin.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm of a similar mindset. While a company that exists as a huge reference to the film is amusing, it feels a little too on the nose. Wouldn't mind changing the name of the company and some of its characters, but by and large it should remain as it is: a zany, theatrical cash grab by an out of shape, semi-pro basketball player and his friends.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Honestly, I'd prefer the name change. The utility of the joke is overshadowed by the loaded meaning of the initials. It's the same reason I always remove "Antonio" from Frederique Garcia's ring name. I get the joke, it just isn't funny.</p>
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<p>For Kaiser Grund, you can probably get away with using the same render as Spike. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm referring to this one: <span>http://i.imgur.com/LuIo753.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p>

For his partner, it'd be awesome if someone did a render based on something like this: <span>http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea9b3fe23cdeae8aefa17ae82cc57a06/tumblr_my3v8awr5l1t7siopo1_500.jpg</span></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Honestly, I'd prefer the name change. The utility of the joke is overshadowed by the loaded meaning of the initials. It's the same reason I always remove "Antonio" from Frederique Garcia's ring name. I get the joke, it just isn't funny.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is it really sad that it took me a few moments to realize what you were saying lol. Also I never thought about his initials before either.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For Kaiser Grund, you can probably get away with using the same render as Spike. <p> </p><p> I'm referring to this one: <span>http://i.imgur.com/LuIo753.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> For his partner, it'd be awesome if someone did a render based on something like this: <span>http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea9b3fe23cdeae8aefa17ae82cc57a06/tumblr_my3v8awr5l1t7siopo1_500.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Except you'd break the cardinal rule of "only one Mohawk per group". If he were to get a new render, I wouldn't mind it still resembling the original but with maybe some vibes of Johnny Rotten or Billy Idol.</p>
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Hey man I have some of the "FAG" renders that weren't in the last game so if you want them hit me up. In fact I think I have a render for everyone in the game so if you have any missing renders let me know.

 

Good to know.

 

Especially because I just added a full list of everyone I'm missing renders for to the bottom of the first post here. I could swear some of these guys have had renders made, but have simply be lost to me for one reason or another.

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<p>Alright, fun time is over. Couldn't resist the itch to book some NYCW the last couple of days for the first time in well over a month, but back to it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

As far as I can tell, ALL workers for Japan, UK, and Europe to ever exist in the C-Verse, be it 2016 or 1997, are now in the database. </p><p> </p><p>

Even found some Japanese workers in the 2016 data who are meant to be active in the late 70s and on into the 80s, and thanks to Shinsuke I've even snagged them some renders (so they don't look like old men when they debut at 21).</p>

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<p>There were two versions of Rocky Streets rendered: One for the 75 mod, and then another for the 77 mod:</p><p>

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<span>http://i.imgur.com/6ecm2LL.jpg</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/Bp6pYan.jpg</span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

Here's both in case you don't have one; personally I prefer the one on the left, as I find the style on the right too bulky and rough.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There were two versions of Rocky Streets rendered: One for the 75 mod, and then another for the 77 mod:<p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p> <span>http://i.imgur.com/6ecm2LL.jpg</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/Bp6pYan.jpg</span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Here's both in case you don't have one; personally I prefer the one on the left, as I find the style on the right too bulky and rough.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Aye, I've got both of those. I'm currently using the versions on the left for the Streets family, though the other is in my pictures as alts.</p>
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<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i.imgur.com/pSyjw7C.jpg</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/7mLG2xB.jpg</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/CcFshbg.jpg</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/BBdR6U5.jpg</span></div><p></p><p></p><p>

Well the source is a little obvious, but since Assassin doesn't debut in the C-Verse for about 50 years after the setting of this mod, this alt I've just created might be alright for one of Nicht Mehr. I based it off Billy Idol per your suggestion. </p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i.imgur.com/GKAwzEW.jpg</span></div><p></p><p></p><p>

Also here's a very basic alt of Cheerleader Nicki that might come in hand if you need a render for a cheerleader in FAG, that is if you're still planning on using them.</p>

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