TEW2020 Discussion Thread

[LoganRodzen]

Curious to see if any of the companies start out with brands considering how much the AI can handle them now. USPW must be massive by now and is probably using brands. SWF was always ready to do brands but it never did. I really like the update to this feature.

[iiM0NK3YS]

Looks like I have a lot to catch of on on the developers journal since I haven't read it since January, looking forward to the new game

[mlewi101]

Just a small suggestion. Would it be possible to integrate the "time off to heal" notices in a similar way to the injury is handled where it shows their status for the shows because of the need for time off to heal. For example they could maybe be classified as needing say 2 shows off from all activity to recover or 4 shows with just angles to recover? I tend to run a lot of shows and it can be a pain to go back and remember which 6 wrestlers I just got the notice on.

[Editor6]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dogking" data-cite="Dogking" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Will AI companies have brands in this game?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's possible. SOTBPW had one in '13.</p>

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WilburTrey" data-cite="WilburTrey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any Chance You are going to put in a random "resurgence" feature where someone on time decline might be able to put on non time decline effected matches for 6 months- a year before the decline penalty starts back up? Just thought it would be an interesting feature since so many older workers are coming back and doing well before getting tired and going away again.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If this isn't in the suggestions area, might be a good place to plop it.<img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Your post reminded me of some country song... Went something like, "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once, as I ever was." </p><p> </p><p> There has definitely been a handful of workers that has done this. I think Gold Dust is probably the best example I can think of that hasn't been brought up already.</p>

[Jomosensual]

Very into the new brand features, especially being able to add some on. I'm at the point in my current save where I want to start a 4th brand due to the number of people on my roster, and I can't imagine I'll ever need to go over 5 brands for anything in the future.

[ChairToFace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Your post reminded me of some country song... Went something like, "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once, as I ever was."</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's Toby Keith's "As Good As I Once Was".</p><p> </p><p> Also, I doubt USPW will use brands. They'll probably just have an overbloated roster and even a brand split won't help, similar to WWE's modern situation.</p><p> </p><p> SWF could certainly use brands. They've literally got everything they need to do it. </p><p> </p><p> 21CW will have a large roster, but that's because of all the young graduates. They'll probably make a child company to put most of them in to lower their roster.</p><p> </p><p> One thing I'll be interested in is if one of the companies in the Modern Japan Movement adopts the American system of brands. They've adopted the schedule. Adopting brands would be another spit in the face of tradition. BHOTWG might do something like brands, but instead of an American style split, it would be two TV shows, one for the junior heavyweights and one for the heavyweights. If GCG bought out BCG, they could start an invasion angle, with two brands for each company.</p>

[Infernalmiko]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Steven James" data-cite="Steven James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>One thing I'll be interested in is if one of the companies in the Modern Japan Movement adopts the American system of brands. They've adopted the schedule. Adopting brands would be another spit in the face of tradition. BHOTWG might do something like brands, but instead of an American style split, it would be two TV shows, one for the junior heavyweights and one for the heavyweights. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#4B0082;">Very possible. New Japan flirted with the idea od brands to help give the younger guys a push. Separate TV show and title.</span></p>

[SirMichaelJordan]

I’m excited to see some some updates and details about any wrestler ratings. Particularly the gimmick types and face/heel disposition ratings. In the past they never or rarely improved. It would be a nice change to see those ratings progress. The more you use a guy as a heel, the better he can improve at it and vice versa. The more you use a cocky type gimmick (or any gimmick) on a guy, there is should be a chance for him to improve it. Of course destiny rolls and caps should come in place where no matter how much you use a specific worker as a face (heel or gimmick type), he will never get better at it. I think this would be a nice addition to the game.

[shawn michaels]

5 Brand limit is a minus on today's entry. I was kind of hoping for more, even unlimited, although that might be harder to do. Still 5 does not seem that much. As for the rest, great additions an,d btw, I do hope some of today's features do make drafting much easier, as it seems to be the case.

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>5 Brand limit is a minus on today's entry. I was kind of hoping for more, even unlimited, although that might be harder to do. Still 5 does not seem that much. As for the rest, great additions an,d btw, I do hope some of today's features do make drafting much easier, as it seems to be the case.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But.... why? What purpose would there by to having 15 or 31 or 1,275 brands?</p>

[ChairToFace]

5 Brand limit is a minus on today's entry. I was kind of hoping for more, even unlimited, although that might be harder to do. Still 5 does not seem that much. As for the rest, great additions an,d btw, I do hope some of today's features do make drafting much easier, as it seems to be the case.

 

I don't know of any promotion which has used more than 3 brands. Honestly, I doubt many people playing will use all 5 brands.

[Vinsmoker]

I don't know of any promotion which has used more than 3 brands. Honestly, I doubt many people playing will use all 5 brands.

 

Some people might want to do that for a territory system, since the Alliance system doesn't give you as much control over everything

[dpoolez]

I think 5 is enough if we use WWE as a base model.

 

Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, and 205 Live could all be used as main roster brands rather than as 2 Child Companies.

 

Or, you could use NXT and NXT UK as Child Companies like we already do, and be able to have the AI book a show like 205 Live more like it is in reality.

[ChairToFace]

Some people might want to do that for a territory system, since the Alliance system doesn't give you as much control over everything

 

Adam hasn't said anything in the dev journal about alliances yet. However, given the large amount of people who've asked that alliances be revamped and improved to function better and more realistically, and Adam's record of listening to the people, I think he'll eventually put something in the journal explaining the way alliances will work. So we'll probably have a better alliance system in TEW 2020.

 

Though if it ends up being exactly the same as in TEW 2016, then I'll be disappointed. One of the saves I want to do in TEW 2020 is play as Sam Keith and be the President of the COTT, and treat them like the NWA. Sam Keith as COTT President just screams Sam Muchnick to me. Maybe if alliances are updated I'd actually play as RW save as a promotion in the NWA and control the alliance as Muchnick (with a Board of Directors, of course).

[Makhai]

I think 5 is enough if we use WWE as a base model.

 

Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, and 205 Live could all be used as main roster brands rather than as 2 Child Companies.

 

Or, you could use NXT and NXT UK as Child Companies like we already do, and be able to have the AI book a show like 205 Live more like it is in reality.

 

In every fed save I've ever done, NXT, NXT UK, and 205 Live are all child companies which, with clever use of child companies(which you can book yourself in 2020 now) you can have as many brands as you would ever need IMO.

[Teh_Showtime]

Really love the additions today, especially new owners/bookers fixing up the roster to their liking upon gaining power. It was always hard to see a new booker truly out their stamp on a promotion if they had a giant roster with no room for turnover.

[SevenSulivin]

Wait does the fact that from now on the changes will be smaller mean the unrealistic, unfun, downright bad touring schedule won’t be fixed in this game? Even removing the “mandatory 2 months off” mechanic would make the style 10 times better. As it stands the touring schedule is legitimately terrible in every way.

[Adam Ryland]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SevenSulivin" data-cite="SevenSulivin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait does the fact that from now on the changes will be smaller mean the unrealistic, unfun, downright bad touring schedule won’t be fixed in this game? Even removing the “mandatory 2 months off” mechanic would make the style 10 times better. As it stands the touring schedule is legitimately terrible in every way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure you needed to take such a trollish approach in your post, but A touring changes were already announced in entry #12, and B the latest entry was very clear that I'd announced all the major changes<em> that had been completed so far</em>.</p>

[SevenSulivin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure you needed to take such a trollish approach in your post, but A touring changes were already announced in entry #12, and B the latest entry was very clear that I'd announced all the major changes<em> that had been completed so far</em>.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I somehow missed that part in Diary 12. And on B,!I didn’t get that impression, I got the impression that all the big stuff were done, which TBH looking at what we have there’s definitely more then enough, and that the rest will be more medium and small stuff. Sorry about the rude tone, I’ve been waiting for tours to be fixed for so long.</p>

[nerodragomir1]

I'm so happy with all of the changes. I'm looking forward to phase II. The small quality of life changes might be the ones I'm looking forward to most.

[LoganRodzen]

"Fairly unexciting things"... AKA, I'll still be excited. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Really love hearing the progress you've made and appreciate you outlining where things are heading. No other game developer keeps players in the loop like this. That is one thing I've always loved about this game series while in development.

[Kingster]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SirMichaelJordan" data-cite="SirMichaelJordan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I’m excited to see some some updates and details about any wrestler ratings. Particularly the gimmick types and face/heel disposition ratings. In the past they never or rarely improved. It would be a nice change to see those ratings progress. The more you use a guy as a heel, the better he can improve at it and vice versa. The more you use a cocky type gimmick (or any gimmick) on a guy, there is should be a chance for him to improve it. Of course destiny rolls and caps should come in place where no matter how much you use a specific worker as a face (heel or gimmick type), he will never get better at it. I think this would be a nice addition to the game.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Face and heel ratings already improve in the way you described it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Brands screen is now colour coded to make tracking easier. So when viewing the roster, those on brand 1 are in one colour, brand 2's workers are in another, etc.</div></blockquote><p> Will the names on the match booking screen also be shown in these colours? And would it be possible to have different colours for stables, divisions and maybe even tag teams as well?</p>

[franticloser]

I've held off from commenting on the recent stuff as I don't have a whole lot to add to the discussions. But man every new thing fixed, added, or changed to me has been a great improvement. I look forward to the small updates we are getting and then Phase 2. Thanks Adam for all the hard work you are doing.

[MrVillain]

Can someone tell me what Adam means by a Live Journal? What does that mean exactly?