Public Beta Reaction Thread

[daddytorgo1]

I hate to rant, but on top of everything else wrong with this game, I CANNOT go through a save when I have to meticulously rearrange matches on a card one arrow at a time.

 

It's just crazy. Especially when you have to keep following whatever you're rearranging to move it around. So tedious.

[Historian]

I hate to rant, but on top of everything else wrong with this game, I CANNOT go through a save when I have to meticulously rearrange matches on a card one arrow at a time.

 

You can change it to not be Main Event booking (so that you go from the bottom up instead of the top down)

[Joshdb]

There's too many boxes and lines. The only other computer game I really play is Football Manager which I don't think this is much different than. Both have an excel looking format but you don't have literal lines drawn everywhere in Football Manager. You alternate between three different color shades so that your eyes can easily follow the line. That's all that I think was needed here. Some of the sections of the pages use this strategy but it's inconsistent. Instead it's hard to focus because of all the boxes and lines. I don't know what page is the worst example of all this but the title history and match history seem very bad. There are so many lines when you have something like the Creative Meeting screen open, the previous screen background is so busy it's hard to focus on the open tab.

 

There also seems to be some repetition which I don't understand. Like if you are on in a list of workers you can see their skills. Then there is a button you can select called skills. If you select skills, it takes you to pages that not only give you the same information but also are the same size. I don't know. I'm not a developer or anything. It seems like some things could be eliminated to make it not so busy.

 

I really enjoy being able to compare wrestlers skills, that's very helpful. Comparing title prestige across different companies is super fun too.

[PGHJuice]

Why not let the users create their own product types though? Why add in this unnecessary intermediary step?

 

Is there something about the game that it would BREAK if I wanted to run a promotion where all matches under 30 minutes are penalized for being too short, and we like risque gimmicks and angles?

 

It makes no sense why the conscious decision was made to literally handcuff us. What happened to being able to play the game you want to play? We can sandbox almost everything else except products? The one thing that affects the entire booking aspect of the game.

 

I'm just dumbfounded by this design decision

[Irishwhiskey119]

Oh ok, i'm just seeing this now.

 

Product limitation is DEFINITELY an issue. Appreciate the added options but the only real answer is to give back the freedom, i'm sure there's a core reason that it is limited but if there's a way to switch that back or easily allow a bit more freedom to the sliders and %'s it really should be done.

[johndango]

Here's also a rough edit of what I think the office UI should look like

 

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/521657197315227658/702969775449440326/Sans_titre.png?width=845&height=475

 

I love this

[e-rock]

It's just crazy. Especially when you have to keep following whatever you're rearranging to move it around. So tedious.

 

That's the part I mean. I was annoyed doing that for one show. I can't in good conscience do that in a five year save.

[AldousKing]

Quick first thoughts:

 

The Good

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  People have been crapping on the UI - but I'm a big fan personally. Makes modding/playing so much more efficient.
  

• 
  Dig the attribute system, love when workers have more of a distinct personalities and development.
  

• 
  Lots of the smaller additions are appreciated. New locations, potential narratives, etc.
  

 

The Bad:

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  The new product system. I do like that that the AI is more likely to evolve, but I don't like being forced to choose presets (even if there are over 60). Do the presets probably cover most of my usual product choices? Yeah, probably. But...I dunno, still want to be able to choose the individual elements myself.
  

• 
  Drop down menus where you an only see a few of the options are a pet peeve of mine. Obvious effort has be made to make to make aspects of the game not so time consuming, but this continues to be an issue. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure WMMA 5 allowed you to see a ton of attributes at once, and "add" them to a worker. Was hoping for something similar here.
  

 

Overall, I'm digging it. I'll probably hold off buying until the inevitable bugs are addressed and historical mods come out - but I'm more excited than I was before.

[daddytorgo1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Historian" data-cite="Historian" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can change it to not be Main Event booking (so that you go from the bottom up instead of the top down)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why can't we have drag-and-drop on this screen to rearrange though? Why should we have to be clicking arrows to rearrange either way on say a 12-15 item card?</p>

[Juce]

Did people not read the developers diary where he discussed the change to how company product settings are going to be done?

[The Nickman]

<p>Righto just getting into booking my first show after spending the morning looking around and reading the forums (and I have to say a lot of criticism of a pre-release beta is well OTT, in my opinion).</p><p> </p><p>

So I'm booking as RAW, and something I've noticed... is Adelaide REALLY in Tasmania in this game or am I reading this wrong??</p>

[The Nickman]

Ok, something else I have to point out (which I know has already been mentioned, but just reiterating)… booking angles REALLY needs the View Profile option reinstated, if possible.

[PGHJuice]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Juce" data-cite="Juce" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did people not read the developers diary where he discussed the change to how company product settings are going to be done?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh we read it, all of us read it. None of us assumed we'd be as handicapped as we are. Not being able to edit ANYTHING or create our own product. </p><p> </p><p> It's a ridiculously flawed design decision that needs to be reverted. Again, playing as the top company in the world is extremely stupid when you can't book matches longer than 15 minutes or any angles longer than 7 minutes. </p><p> </p><p> It makes NO sense and how someone can defend this is mind blowing and nothing but blind, sheep like faith.</p>

[tryker2710]

I have to say the extremely strict angle and match lengths are definitely hurting my enjoyment but the one mechanical change I really cant stand is that I cant change the match/angle ratio at ALL? I'd totally understand if there was limits I had to keep within but having absolutely 0 control over that is really off putting and actually makes me book shows in way less creative ways

[PGHJuice]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tryker2710" data-cite="tryker2710" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have to say the extremely strict angle and match lengths are definitely hurting my enjoyment but the one mechanical change I really cant stand is that I cant change the match/angle ratio at ALL? I'd totally understand if there was limits I had to keep within but having absolutely 0 control over that is really off putting and actually makes me book shows in way less creative ways</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly! We're absolutely handcuffed and handicapped to the way Adam wants us to play as each promotion. I feel like I have absolutely no creative freedom at all when booking. It's funny, a new mechanic was added to punish users for booking the same boring shows over and over again, but the new products and strict angle, match lengths don't let us do ANYTHING creatively</p>

[Rebby]

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, its that PGHJuice does not like the product system.

[rufas2000]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bad Collin" data-cite="Bad Collin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've played the demo a fair bit tonight:<p> </p><p> </p><p> - The AI seem to split up the establish stables very quickly and add odd new ones (Frehley, James Justice, Running Wolf, Julius Moor and Trent Shaffer are now 'The Gremlins')</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know the first edit I'm making to the database. Oh yeah!</p>

[PGHJuice]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rebby" data-cite="Rebby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, its that PGHJuice does not like the product system.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't let this go, man. Adam needs to see this and how flawed it is. It's ruining a game with great potential.</p>

[MrJeeps]

Will we be able to continue our demo games after we buy the real thing? I don't want to change all these renders into better ones and find out I have to do it all over again after the real deal.

[DaneQuixote]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rebby" data-cite="Rebby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, its that PGHJuice does not like the product system.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's literally the first 24 hours of the beta and people are having a complete meltdown already. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I have my criticisms, but I'm confident most of them will be remedied either in the final release or in a coming patch. </p><p> </p><p> If not? I'll either get over it or find something else to play.</p>

[daddytorgo1]

Why can't I see in a wrestler's profile whether he's a Star, Well-Known or whatever? I'm trying to discipline someone and I'm not intimately familiar with my roster and I have no idea from that screen how important he is.

[The Nickman]

<p>Ok, another minor issue is that the scroll bars don't work as they should. When you click the scroll bar either above or below the scroller, it should go up or down the page in the increment of one full page.</p><p> </p><p>

Instead, it only goes up or down one entry, similar to if you only hit arrows at the top or bottom of the scroll bar.</p><p> </p><p>

Does this make sense??</p>

[The Nickman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PGHJuice" data-cite="PGHJuice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can't let this go, man. Adam needs to see this and how flawed it is. It's ruining a game with great potential.</div></blockquote><p> Mate, perhaps playing the beta isn't for you. Maybe hold off a week and play it once the full game has been released?</p>

[Historian]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="daddytorgo1" data-cite="daddytorgo1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why can't I see in a wrestler's profile whether he's a Star, Well-Known or whatever? I'm trying to discipline someone and I'm not intimately familiar with my roster and I have no idea from that screen how important he is.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because it is determined by both their popularity and how you use them, so until you use them, you don't know.</p>

[awesomenessofme1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MrJeeps" data-cite="MrJeeps" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Will we be able to continue our demo games after we buy the real thing? I don't want to change all these renders into better ones and find out I have to do it all over again after the real deal.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes.</p>