FlameSnoopy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Great addition, giving old school promotions reality, and CZCW doesn't get the odd monster champion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'll probably make style and weight rules. I would imagine the bigger and more demographic specific promotions should and would have more restrictions. To be USPW, I would expect any high-fliers to be banned, and anyone under a certain weight would be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Far too often I see MAW moving away from the idea that it's a promotion that is about developing young talent, so I would pre-set them to not hire anyone over 30. Hey! I resemble that remark! What'd happen if a company couldn't hire Regular Wrestlers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Stranger Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Anyone else kind of hope there's a 'just one monster' style allowance? Or 'just one high flyer'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 What'd happen if a company couldn't hire Regular Wrestlers? Then they'd hire Irregular Wrestlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Anyone else kind of hope there's a 'just one monster' style allowance? Or 'just one high flyer'? I think it'd be good if it were to be more of a "ratio" type system. Like, say, in TCW, High Fliers/Cruiserweights have a 35% chance of being signed, as they obviously don't take up most of the roster, but are neccessary for the All-Action Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Celt Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Don't go overboard though...there has to be room for surpises right? For example RW: Danielson to WWE, McLariat to TNA C-Verse: Sam Strong in Japan, Eddie Peak in TCW, Kurt Kalamee in SWF and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day_Dreamer Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd say the issue is more about the push than the hire. Sure, the WWE will hire the odd small guy, but rarely do they ever get pushed. Putting a restriction on whether or not the company hires a certain type of wrestler might not be the answer, but I suppose product settings are already handling that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Don't go overboard though...there has to be room for surpises right? For example RW: Danielson to WWE, McLariat to TNA C-Verse: Sam Strong in Japan, Eddie Peak in TCW, Kurt Kalamee in SWF and so on With your real world examples i agree with you on the Danielson to WWE..but MgGuinness does fit in perfectly in TNA and would have in WWE if he went there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestruck420 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Man this game is going to be awesome! Kinda hope they give the true wcw feel. Like say a promotion can hire anyone they want but can only push people over 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I love the hiring rules. I always get bummed when a few months into a game of mine SHIMMER's roster consists of T&A "Divas" who can't wrestle. Ha! This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd also support a ratio mechanic. Banning high fliers from USPW doesn't allow those rare few individuals to make a scene. For example, DaVE was all about hard core but some of their most awesome and lasting roster additions were lightweight high fliers (Acid, Scout & Guide). Even 4C has a few big beefy hardcore cases (Sayeed, Brett Fraser) and CZCW as well (Frankie Perez... I think Primal Rage was with CZCW a few years). Hiring restrictions if they're a set "yes/no" like with owner goals would have to be treated very carefully. For example, maybe Steve Flash would semi-retire to MAW to help train the young'uns, but a hiring restriction of <30 yrs old would not allow those few exceptions. OR allow the Ai to make exceptions based on priorities. For example, Owner relationships trump hiring restrictions, so if Rip Chord is best friends with Steve Flash, Flash always has a chance to be hired no matter what kind of hiring restrictions are in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Why are so many assuming that C-Verse promotions will be automatically set to have hiring rules? The feature is primarily for modmakers to tailor their mods to their own vision for the mod. Does anyone really think Adam is going to shackle the C-Verse and restrict its operation in a way that doesn't make much sense? If any individual player wants to do that, they're welcome to. But INSPIRE isn't likely to hire spot monkeys or 'entertainers' in any real capacity now so why would a hiring rule even matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Why not? Why shouldn't MAW be geared towards hiring youth like their promotion says? Why shouldn't 4C or CZCW be tailored towards athleticism like their description says they are? Why shouldn't BHOTWG be against MMA considering that's what inspired the whole INSPIRE incident to begin with? I can't count the number of games where Giant Redwood becomes the CZCW championship or MAW completely throws it's youth out to dry and has Tribal Warrior vs. Steve Flash for their main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I love the hiring rules, I was hoping for something similar and suggested in a very inarticulate way something along these lines so I am stoked to have it in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamchatka Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 A very useful feature, hurray! My one hope with the rules is that there is a combination (or a single rule) that can be put together which means a backyard promotion can be created which will only hire ****ty backyard wrestlers (possibly a combination of maximum budget only $100/FREE per wrester, maximum amount of wrestlers only 6/8, maximum skill allowance). The day Stretch the Chicken Boy gets hired is a day worth fighting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerkinney Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Why not? Why shouldn't MAW be geared towards hiring youth like their promotion says? Why shouldn't 4C or CZCW be tailored towards athleticism like their description says they are? Why shouldn't BHOTWG be against MMA considering that's what inspired the whole INSPIRE incident to begin with? I can't count the number of games where Giant Redwood becomes the CZCW championship or MAW completely throws it's youth out to dry and has Tribal Warrior vs. Steve Flash for their main event. Spot on. And besides I wouldn't necessarily expect the restrictions to be preset by Adam himself and that it would be up to the player. Perhaps there are some players that won't be all that bothered if MAW ends up with a roster full of golden oldies that goes totally against what their description says, but it'll be nice to have the option to put in the hiring restrictions to counter against that. And oh yeah as for the INSPIRE example Remianen brought up, I must admit I have not seen them tend to hire Spot Monkeys but I have seen them hire plenty of masked super juniors/cruiserweights and personally when I look at what INSPIRE is supposed to be all about, I don't think of flippity floppity types in masks...of any kind ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crayon Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Great addition and I can already see that my street fighter promotions aren't going to hire any workers that don't have at least a certain amount of MMA skills. Likewise technical skills and my indy Linux feds And to think some people were complaining because this would be a mod makers week of updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Likewise technical skills and my indy Linux feds I don't think I can groan loud enough for that joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crayon Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I don't think I can groan loud enough for that joke Hey, I don't make the rules. I'm nothing but a slave to whatever weird characters I can find pictures for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Why are so many assuming that C-Verse promotions will be automatically set to have hiring rules? The feature is primarily for modmakers to tailor their mods to their own vision for the mod. Does anyone really think Adam is going to shackle the C-Verse and restrict its operation in a way that doesn't make much sense? If any individual player wants to do that, they're welcome to. But INSPIRE isn't likely to hire spot monkeys or 'entertainers' in any real capacity now so why would a hiring rule even matter? Simple, Remi. One of the things Adam does with the C-Verse when he creates a new game is shuffle the rosters around to reflect the changes made in the game by the new features that have been added. This is a feature that would be a natural for that. Narrowly focused owners like Stomper and dictators like Eisen would have had these in place long ago if their great holy Ryland had allowed it. Why shouldn't those kind of characters have them pre-set to demonstrate how they look and work in the new game environment? And for that matter to explain why changes that may be occuring in their rosters happened. Makes a perfectly reasonable assumption to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I already foresee a LOT of people going over the top with this feature. There was a debate I engaged in on the forum not long ago about CZCW's roster and the types of people who would fit it... I deliberately didn't mention this feature (cos I'm legally not allowed to! ) but was basically arguing this and the best application of it. If you are going to apply multiple rules then you need to use a light touch, as a handful of C level blocks will rapidly eliminate a LOT of the potential hiring base. As it stands, you don't NEED to set CZCW to have B level athleticism and less than Big Heavyweight in their filters... there are so few guys who could be the first and the second that you wouldn't only need the first one. You don't need ratios for things... the SWF's are smart enough to hire good workers that fit their product, you basically just need to exclude a handful in order to make the most of them. For example, minimum lightweight + D charisma + D star quality would take care of most of their likely signings and get rid of a few really bad workers they might otherwise have hired. Similarly, USPW shouldn't exclude small workers as then you cripple their women's division. Star quality would be good for them and the elimination of certain wrestling styles, which should then see them hire the kinds of workers you would expect. It's all about thikning it through, which is obviously easier for me since I've got the game and have been running sim tests on my 97 data with the rules in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_w_w Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I already foresee a LOT of people going over the top with this feature. Yeah. Almost a certainty. And yet, I'm kind of excited about the inevitable thread where folks discuss the proper settings for various cverse feds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 EWA Minimum Stats: Power C Maximum Stats: Stamina D, Technical D, Basics D, Psychology D Minimum size: Big Heavyweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 It's a lack of appropriate workers that's the major problem. There's not a lot of high stiffness/MMA crossovers/psycopaths/spotmonkeys. These hiring limits won't fix that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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