LoNdOn Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Also, I couldn't miss JR any more on commentary. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 OMG that Rock picture is insane! He is huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I think you've been playing TEW too long Not everything's that cut and dry, especially in the wrestling industry. Benoit was more a victim of timing and circumstance than anything else imo. What you pointed out above does hold some truth but that's more of an issue with WCW and a whole other discussion. Nor am I, he deserved better. I agree, but Benoit was pretty cut and dry worker in terms of what he was good at and wasn't good at. It's not like they didn't try. It just never seemed to work out as well as they had hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd1 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Also, I couldn't miss JR any more on commentary. Agreed. JR was awesome, in fact I enjoyed the show a lot and I don't normally watch RAW. And I have to admit Santino is great. I always thought he was ridiculous, unfunny, etc etc. but in this episode he was very funny (the Cobra is genius) and watching Sheamus try desperately not to laugh during the tea party segment last week was brilliant. Am I the only one who thinks Michael Cole needs to tone down his 'heelishness'? I get what he is trying to do and his little digs at JR were funny at first but in the end you had to either watch the match or listen to him babble on. Surely his job is to let you do both. Do the heel talk, but just not all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Agreed. JR was awesome, in fact I enjoyed the show a lot and I don't normally watch RAW. And I have to admit Santino is great. I always thought he was ridiculous, unfunny, etc etc. but in this episode he was very funny (the Cobra is genius) and watching Sheamus try desperately not to laugh during the tea party segment last week was brilliant. Am I the only one who thinks Michael Cole needs to tone down his 'heelishness'? I get what he is trying to do and his little digs at JR were funny at first but in the end you had to either watch the match or listen to him babble on. Surely his job is to let you do both. Do the heel talk, but just not all the time! I couldn't agree more. When Michael Cole is doing commentary I don't think, "Oh, I hate this guy because he is a heel." I think, "Stop ruining the show, you boring, monotonous jeb." He just flat out ruins most of my enjoyment for WWE shows so imagine my utter joy when he appeared on Smackdown and continues to do so to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supershot Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Am I the only one who thinks Michael Cole needs to tone down his 'heelishness'? I get what he is trying to do and his little digs at JR were funny at first but in the end you had to either watch the match or listen to him babble on. Surely his job is to let you do both. Do the heel talk, but just not all the time! This is the point I was trying to make exactly! Cole tends to overdo it sometimes and it really takes away from the matches. I know hes probably going to end of the GM so they have to let him get some of these Heel lines in but holy crap! Call the match once in a while too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Actually, I like Heel cole. He just does it so well. They should have done this a LONG time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, I like Heel cole. He just does it so well. They should have done this a LONG time ago.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wouldnt mind heel cole so much if he had a strong face foil. </p><p> </p><p> King tends to just let him rant and only passively aggressively call him on his crap. that leads to me just going "jesus, would you shut up or add something to the match" every time cole talks. That's more like X-pac heat than the heat i think they want a heel announcer to draw.</p><p> </p><p> Random though: mabey that's why they had that segment last night, to test the waters. in my mind JR would be the perfect face to offset heel cole. You could even keep king around as the middle man trying to keep order, much as i generally hate 3 man announce teams.</p><p> </p><p> I'd be very ok with a JR-King-Cole team on Raw, with Cole getting to play off a strong face announcer like JR while King did his "reasonable man in the middle" shtick.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="supershot" data-cite="supershot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is the point I was trying to make exactly! Cole tends to overdo it sometimes and it really takes away from the matches. I know hes probably going to end of the GM so they have to let him get some of these Heel lines in but holy crap! Call the match once in a while too!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My problem is he's still so inconsistent. He likes Cena, but hates other faces. Meanwhile he likes Miz, but hates other heels like the nexus.</p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't mind that if it had a explanation for why he likes certain guys and hates others, but it just comes off as completely skitzo sometimes, aside from why he hates bryan. </p><p> </p><p> Also, if he's the GM, and i know this is asking alot of WWE creative, I'd like an explanation on why some of the GM's edicts help guys he hates (like bryan) and hurt guys he likes (miz)</p><p> </p><p> I agree that they seem to be setting it up to be cole though, I hold out irrational hope for jericho pulling a fast one on everyone though <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <p>It can't possibly be Jericho though. He's been in the ring when emails have come through, and more to the point emails that have csrewed him. It can't realistically be Jericho or any other current superstar. </p><p> </p><p> It could well be Cole although the points you raise for it not being him are good ones. I honestly can't realistically think who it can be. The anonymous gm has voiced his dislikening of Bret Hart, so it can't be someone who is a strong face for example.</p><p> </p><p> No doubt it will turn out to be someone that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sebsy" data-cite="sebsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It can't possibly be Jericho though. He's been in the ring when emails have come through, and more to the point emails that have csrewed him. It can't realistically be Jericho or any other current superstar. <p> </p><p> It could well be Cole although the points you raise for it not being him are good ones. I honestly can't realistically think who it can be. The anonymous gm has voiced his dislikening of Bret Hart, so it can't be someone who is a strong face for example.</p><p> </p><p> No doubt it will turn out to be someone that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Shawn Michaels.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sebsy" data-cite="sebsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It can't possibly be Jericho though. He's been in the ring when emails have come through, and more to the point emails that have csrewed him. It can't realistically be Jericho or any other current superstar. <p> </p><p> It could well be Cole although the points you raise for it not being him are good ones. I honestly can't realistically think who it can be. The anonymous gm has voiced his dislikening of Bret Hart, so it can't be someone who is a strong face for example.</p><p> </p><p> No doubt it will turn out to be someone that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Stone Cold Steve Austin! It would make sense. DTA! Then he could guest ref a 3way with Wade Barrett, Cena, and Orton. I dunno just a random idea. Probably a bad one though.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <p>Except Austin is booked up doing movies and can't even find time to stop by RAW and say hi nor does he want to come back and be full time like that. </p><p> </p><p> Honestly this isn't a storyline thats going to get paid off until their ready to end it. When their tired of the whole mystery GM they will reveal someone, they won't make much sense, I'm sure they'll get fired or beat up and it'll be onto someone else.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Except Austin is booked up doing movies and can't even find time to stop by RAW and say hi nor does he want to come back and be full time like that. <p> </p><p> Honestly this isn't a storyline thats going to get paid off until their ready to end it. When their tired of the whole mystery GM they will reveal someone, they won't make much sense, I'm sure they'll get fired or beat up and it'll be onto someone else.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think you are right about this. I am not sure if even they know who it will be. They must have ideas but I don't think anything is set in stone. I just hope it does not end up like the Black Scorpion storyline in WCW.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <p>And also please remember just because an email has been sent while someone is out there doesn't mean anything. Anybody can email something it doesn't have to be that guy so thats their way around that. </p><p> </p><p> Didn't they already do a big "who is the GM gonna be" a few years ago after I think Bischoff was fired and they where hyping a new GM and people thought it'd be Dusty Rhodes but it never went anywhere and McMahon just sort of lingered for a while.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sebsy" data-cite="sebsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It can't possibly be Jericho though. He's been in the ring when emails have come through, and more to the point emails that have csrewed him. It can't realistically be Jericho or any other current superstar. <p> </p><p> It could well be Cole although the points you raise for it not being him are good ones. I honestly can't realistically think who it can be. The anonymous gm has voiced his dislikening of Bret Hart, so it can't be someone who is a strong face for example.</p><p> </p><p> No doubt it will turn out to be someone that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't really think them being in the ring disqualifies anyone. It's an email, it could be sent by someone whenever.</p><p> </p><p> I think it's going to be cole though, even more so that now that he's dropping comments about how he "runs this place" ect last night.</p><p> </p><p> I guess, to answer my own question, that it would explain why he doesn't care for Nexus, since the beat down the entire ring side area received on thier debut is the reason for the GM remaining beyond thier reach.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Except Austin is booked up doing movies and can't even find time to stop by RAW and say hi nor does he want to come back and be full time like that. <p> </p><p> <strong>Honestly this isn't a storyline thats going to get paid off until their ready to end it. When their tired of the whole mystery GM they will reveal someone, they won't make much sense, I'm sure they'll get fired or beat up and it'll be onto someone else.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's either this, with Adamle or Coach being a good patsy, or it's Cole or Trips imho.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's either this, with Adamle or Coach being a good patsy, or it's Cole or <strong>Trips</strong> imho.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think this is the best route. Triple H is a natural, and glorious, heel. It'd fit the "major heel turn" rumours. He has reasons to not like Bret Hart. He's in a believable position to have power in the company. And, most importantly, it'd rock. It would make for one HELL of a return for him. A veteran of the company finally showing back up to flaunt his power and put all these young upstarts back in line, I like it.</p><p> </p><p> Cole is my second choice, but... it'd just be too obvious. I'd rather see him be a stooge for HHH, I think that'd be fun to watch.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <p>HHH is at the point of his career where fans will cheer him against anyone, and if it's true that he's enjoying being backstage much more than the wrestling side of things than having him do a couple of segments a night would seem to be the ideal way for him to bow out over time.</p><p> </p><p> That said, I assume he'll be back and active for a spell between the New Year and Mania at least - that blow-off match with Sheamus needs to happen.</p><p> </p><p> Otherwise, what about William Regal? Granted he's a joke character but he quickly got over as GM last time around, and if anyone can walk the line between being a bit of a joke, but being able to back it up, it's Regal.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Jim Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Didn't the GM screw around with Sheamus while he was champ? I seem to recall him squashing... Zack Ryder? ...only to be put into some multi-man defense instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slim Jim" data-cite="Slim Jim" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Didn't the GM screw around with Sheamus while he was champ? I seem to recall him squashing... Zack Ryder? ...only to be put into some multi-man defense instead.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thats what keeps it open though, the GM has been wildly inconsistent. Some times he does heel moves, other times he does face moves, other times he plays netrual.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I just keep wondering is there any chance Orton comes out of this thing turning heel again? I cant come up with a scenerio but its like everyone thinks Cena is going heel and I really cant picture it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 <p>Well, not that I definitely see Cena turning or anything but I see Orton turning being even less likely. Nevermind the fact he and Cena have squared hundreds of times but Orton's been openly threatening Cena for a while now so that's the twist factor somewhat out the window. And considering up to like two weeks ago, we've never really seen Orton's stance about the whole CeNexus thing, it doesn't seem they're building anything around him specifically.</p><p> </p><p> Btw</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i51.tinypic.com/dwamtk.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 <p>I posted this in the MMA thread, but figured it's just as, if not more, relevant here.</p><p> </p><p> So there was a rumour about a month back that a 'reasonably major' UFC name's representatives were putting out feelers for a jump to the WWE. I heard three names from people 'in the know', one of which later turned out to be hot air. </p><p> </p><p> The one that *does* seem to have some merit is Roy 'Big Country' Nelson. If you don't know him, he won the recent Heavyweight season of The Ultimate fighter, beating Kimbo Slice in the process. He's known for being short and fat with a mullet and rubbing his belly when he wins. Despite his look at attitude, he's actually a decent fighter, easily one of the UFC's top 10 heavyweights. </p><p> </p><p> For anyone who hasn't read it yet, the story is that Nelson signed a contract about two years ago with Roy Jones Jr's 'Square Ring Promotions' to compete on their boxing/MMA PPV in March of 09. Turns out that they still have some kind of options on Nelson's career, and are suing Nelson and the UFC. No word on how much merit their case has, but it's serious enough to get him pulled from UFC 125 and to have his UFC career publicly put 'on ice' by Dana White. </p><p> </p><p> Nelson has talked about 'fighting' the Undertaker on twitter (following the failed Brock Lesnar/Undertaker confrontation at UFC 121) and the word is that he could be allowed to do his own thing until this legal situation is cleared up.</p><p> </p><p> So assuming all of the above is true, and Nelson's people are reaching out to WWE...what say wrestling fans to the idea? Do you even know who he is? Is he popular enough from The Ultimate Fighter in the US to be known by the average WWE fan if he turns up on Raw, for example? Could you see him having an 'MMA vs UFC' match at Wrestlemania?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 <p>I really shouldn't draw any attention to this loser but it's mildly funny, it's like he's a hired troll on a mission to disrupt any wrestlers twitter he can find...</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="7773f2fbd1046edd506f825ac35dabd3" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=http://twitter.com/JacksonPaige"></iframe> </div> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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