The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[Linsolv]

<p>TNA's put on better matches than WWE, IMO. But not many... They've got Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Daniels, Desmond Wolfe... and yet, they seem to be fascinated with Waltman and the Nastyz.</p><p> </p><p>

Somehow, their ratings aren't going up! I can't see why.</p>

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wasn't in Vince that always said "Perception Is Reality"? I think it was anyway.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You thought wrong. That axiom pre-dates Vincent Kennedy McMahon's <strong><em>birth</em></strong>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ratings actually went up a tad on Thursdays when Hogan/Bischoff took over. Certainly the product got better to by miles (But up to that point if they did anything right it would of been a step in the right direction) and why is it going down now? Cause their going against the WWE machine, of course the rating was going to go down. I still say give them time, because eventually it will catch on. There is absolutely no reason why it wouldn't.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How's this for a reason? It's not the least bit appealing to the audience they're targeting. That a good enough reason?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I come down hard on Vince McMahon because he's trying to take the industry from what it is currently and make it all Disney. He wants to make movies and television shows, and that annoys me. Because he is the industry leader, and if he does this and succeeds with it, it'll probably change wrestling as it is pretty significantly and I don't necessarily want that. It's a petty gripe but it's how I feel none the less. I'm also very deeply afraid the industry will collapse and be replaced by MMA in our life time. The only thing I can see that'll save it is if TNA is successful in building up a small but good enough rating by December.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, that, world peace, and an end to world hunger are running at similar odds right about now. Vince knows his place. He knows where his strengths lie. He knows not to step outta line or else a big dog will pimp slap him (like the NFL did). So he's trying to make lateral moves with the properties he owns. Cross promotion of talent is a 'duh' proposition. Spike has been doing it for years (which is why you see SO much overlap between their properties). You think Jesse James shows up to UFC events on his own dime? AJ Styles at UFC whatever it was in freakin' Columbus (god that was a nightmare) was a coincidence? Spike does it, Vince has been doing it, so has every other entity. Vince wants his own TV channel because everyone else seems to be getting one (every college sports conference, the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, MLS is trying for one, etc). Every major content provider has or is exploring having their own distribution channel. It's business.</p><p> </p><p> I want to respond to your word of mouth thing. Are you crazy? Do you have that much disdain for your own reputation? When I make recommendations to people (friends, colleagues, clients, whatever), they tend to take heed to those recommendations because (here's the important part) <strong><em>I don't recommend **** that sucks</em></strong>. TNA, right now, in my opinion, ****ing sucks. It frustrates me to no end because it doesn't have to be that way.</p><p> </p><p> Let me go a little bit further, Mr I Love the Nasty Boys. YOU are the reason TNA will fail. Yeah, I said it. Every person who buys into this ol' dubya cee dubya kick is validating a failed strategy. Sure, maybe you would pay for a pay per view to see the fat, overpushed enhancement talents that were never worthy of screen time <strong><em>at their peak</em></strong>. But most people want to see wrestlers who can navigate a ring without the assistance of a power chair from the Scooter Store. Or who stall for time to catch their breath in the middle of a match (WATCH the Nasty Boy matches. Watch them critically, not through fanboy eyes). I swear Knobbs has a cardio level that can only be described as 'bovine'. Hell, I'd pay TWICE as much to see Randy Orton from his 'rest hold a-gogo' period than the freakin' Nastys. Also, keep this in mind. Every minute the Nasty Boys pollute the airwaves with their presence is a minute that workers like Sabin and Shelley don't get front line programs (no room at the inn!). Sometimes I wish someone would just give Scott Hall a case of ripple and put ME out of my misery. The fans TNA seems to be going after are not going to spend time trying to figure out wtf is going on and why a pair of old balding men in their 50s are lumbering around with blood oozing (because they're too old for it to gush anymore) from their heads. They're not going to try to figure out why a pay per view quality match is on free TV and why TNA's champion is losing clean to that WWE guy. They're going to ascertain that the WWE guy must be better so why are they watching this crap?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think every wrestling fan has though, I bet the majority of them are in the dark and only the geekiest like us know about them. And of course the WWESheeple aren't going to want to watch TNA no matter how good it is because it's simply not WWE.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tell you what, you let me know when it's good again and maybe I'll watch. On second thought, no, don't. Since you apparently advocate recommending things despite their lack of quality, I should probably find another informant.</p><p> </p><p> But I think it's telling that you think WWE is stale (which it is) because they're relying heavily on their strengths. Gee, if TNA had done that from the beginning, perhaps they'd have 21st century draws and wouldn't have had to reach back into the past to exhume some past ones (along with a lot who didn't draw a dime).</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But I think it's telling that you think WWE is stale (which it is) because they're relying heavily on their strengths. <strong>Gee, if TNA had done that from the beginning, perhaps they'd have 21st century draws and wouldn't have had to reach back into the past to exhume some past ones (along with a lot who didn't draw a dime).</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Amen!</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> How's this for a reason? It's not the least bit appealing to the audience they're targeting. That a good enough reason?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's gonna fall on deaf ears. TDF does genuinely enjoy the product right now so any time someone criticize we are WWESHEEPLE or summat. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Let me go a little bit further, Mr I Love the Nasty Boys. YOU are the reason TNA will fail. Yeah, I said it. Every person who buys into this ol' dubya cee dubya kick is validating a failed strategy. Sure, maybe you would pay for a pay per view to see the fat, overpushed enhancement talents that were never worthy of screen time <strong><em>at their peak</em></strong>. But most people want to see wrestlers who can navigate a ring without the assistance of a power chair from the Scooter Store. Or who stall for time to catch their breath in the middle of a match (WATCH the Nasty Boy matches. Watch them critically, not through fanboy eyes). I swear Knobbs has a cardio level that can only be described as 'bovine'. Hell, I'd pay TWICE as much to see Randy Orton from his 'rest hold a-gogo' period than the freakin' Nastys. Also, keep this in mind. Every minute the Nasty Boys pollute the airwaves with their presence is a minute that workers like Sabin and Shelley don't get front line programs (no room at the inn!). Sometimes I wish someone would just give Scott Hall a case of ripple and put ME out of my misery. The fans TNA seems to be going after are not going to spend time trying to figure out wtf is going on and why a pair of old balding men in their 50s are lumbering around with blood oozing (because they're too old for it to gush anymore) from their heads. They're not going to try to figure out why a pay per view quality match is on free TV and why TNA's champion is losing clean to that WWE guy. They're going to ascertain that the WWE guy must be better so why are they watching this crap?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hahahahaha..tremendous.</p><p> </p><p> That whole paragraph.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But I think it's telling that you think WWE is stale (which it is) because they're relying heavily on their strengths. Gee, if TNA had done that from the beginning, perhaps they'd have 21st century draws and wouldn't have had to reach back into the past to exhume some past ones (along with a lot who didn't draw a dime).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's a whole lotta true.</p>

[TommyDreamerFan]

<p>I consider someone a WWESheeple when they are in fact, a casual wrestling fan. Not someone like you or me and certainly not someone who criticizes/even notices Knobbs being blown up in the ring. </p><p> </p><p>

The Sheeple I'm talking about would be the people that would flick on to TNA and dis-like it for the fact it's not part of the WWE Universe. Basically me when I was a young un-smartened wrestling fan and for the life of me I couldn't get into WCW because I was a WWF fan. </p><p> </p><p>

To probably a giant 2.5 of the WWE's current RAW rating none of the **** you/me/we care about (AJ being shorter then the girls, the lack of matches, guys who can barely work a match)matters. Why? Because that group of wrestling fans don't care so long as McMahon gives them something thats the least bit entertaining! And apparently that isn't much these days!</p><p> </p><p>

****, take a look at a promotion that did cater to the geeks like us like ECW. What were they pulling on TNN? .5! Nearly the same amount of advertising too! Hell for that matter, someone one pull up what ROH on HDNet is doing!</p><p> </p><p>

We're not the life blood of this industry, merely the most vocal part of it. </p><p> </p><p>

And **** y'all, The Nasty's if used right can be an asset. These guys have the charisma, they can get the crowd to hate them, just keep their matches under ten minute brawls. Build them up and then let them work with guys like Shelly and Sabin a great tag team that no one outside You, me and the cactus in the room give a **** about. Plus, The Nasty's were WAY ahead of their time! These were the guys that were wearing all black and doing the counter-culture look with leatherjackets and chains before that kind of thing became huge in wrestling with the attitude era. </p><p> </p><p>

And I think they can appeal to the WWE's target audience, who might I add like stupid **** like Hornswoggle so why wouldn't they dig the Nasty's? TNA ISN'T BOOKING FOR US THEY'RE BOOKING FOR THE SHEEP! AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT US TO WATCH ANYWAY? It's not like the IWC fanbase means jack**** or ROH would be the number 2 permotion</p>

[Linsolv]

<p>Question: Why are you capitalizing "sheeple?" You wouldn't capitalize sheep, or people.</p><p> </p><p>

For the record ratings on HDNet aren't really comparable to ratings on Spike TV or USA.</p><p> </p><p>

Incidentally, nobody gives a **** about the Motor City Machine Guns because they're being jobbed into oblivion. Same as with Evan Bourne on the E.</p>

[Moe Hunter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And **** y'all, The Nasty's if used right can be an asset. These guys have the charisma, they can get the crowd to hate them, just keep their matches under ten minute brawls. Build them up and then let them work with guys like Shelly and Sabin a great tag team that no one outside You, me and the cactus in the room give a **** about. Plus, The Nasty's were WAY ahead of their time! These were the guys that were wearing all black and doing the counter-culture look with leatherjackets and chains before that kind of thing became huge in wrestling with the attitude era. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Please cut down your rampant swearing. Adam has warned about this in recent times.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> On topic, you have a lot of assumpitons. "IF" the Nasty's can be used right. I can't think of anyone being used right in TNA right now. Keeping their matches under 10 minutes would mean something if FAR more talented and over workers weren't having their matches kept under 5 minutes (or in the case of say, Sting vs RVD under one minute). </p><p> </p><p> And so they wore big black coats to try and disguise how grossly out of shape they are.</p><p> </p><p> 1: Who cares if it was ahead of their time back then - they're WAY past their time now!</p><p> 2. Bubba the Love Sponge also dresses the same. Doesn't make him any better suited to the company or product.</p><p> 3. Their look, even if it was still relevant, has nothing to do with their talent, which is shockingly close to zero.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Plus, The Nasty's were WAY ahead of their time! These were the guys that were wearing all black and doing the counter-culture look with leatherjackets and chains before that kind of thing became huge in wrestling with the attitude era. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My God...i can see the light! I had an epiphany! The Nastys are the world's greatest tag team EVER, <strong>(NOT)</strong> just because they did the counter-culture look with leather jackets and chains before the attitude era! My GAWD KING! They were wearing all black!They were so ahead of their time! This one is a slobberknocker!!! How didn't i see this one early? They totally rock because they kick assez and they beat up people with chairz and they jump into tablez! By GAWD!!!!</p><p> </p><p> SOrry, but i coudn't resist! <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Stennick]

<p>I'd like to point out that Hornswaggle in these DX skits has made me laugh and entertained me more than most of what the WWE is putting on today, let alone TNA. </p><p> </p><p>

Aside from the court segment that was way too much time. Other than that I've enjoyed Hornswaggle attacking Santino, HHH taping him to a skateboard, etc. That has entertainened me a million times more than anything the Nasties ever did outside of a Cactus Jack/Kevin Sullivan/ vs. Nasties hardcore brawl in WCW.</p>

[Linsolv]

<p>I recall once, reading through a guide to writing feuds for diaries. Their idea of "short" was a month. Granted, their idea of "long" was only 3-4 months, but still.</p><p> </p><p>

It seems like TNA has feud ADD right now. The only thing that's lasted longer than a month is that Hogan's a face and Bischoff's a heel.</p><p> </p><p>

And maybe Jeff Jarrett getting humiliated. I mean, who doesn't enjoy that? If it were in the midst of a bunch of good matches, between the up-and-coming talent, I can't necessarily say I wouldn't.</p>

[Daffanka]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TommyDreamerFan" data-cite="TommyDreamerFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>snip</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> WWE are successful because they're running simple storylines with relatable characters where they give the fans a reason to care. TNA doesn't. They don't give the fans a reason to care about what happens. Which is fine if you're ROH and are putting on spectacular matches and telling stories that way, but iMpact is, what 80% talking?</p><p> </p><p> Really I don't get this assumption of yours that only simpletons like WWE and sophisticated wrestling viewers (annoying smarks) should enjoy TNA. WWE is stale and too talky, but it's decent. It makes sense. TNA is garbage.</p><p> </p><p> In fact I'd say a fair bit of the TNA fanbase are TNASheeple. These people watch TNA specifically because it's not WWE. They'll watch anything that's not WWE and call it brilliant to decry the competition.</p>

[Tha Black Phenom]

Your Hornswoggle comparison just doesn't work. Wanna know why? Sure, I'll be the first to say it's far from what the usual viewer see in this sports-entertainment world and.. bluntly put, it turns me stomach awry. But this analogy of "if they can tolerate midgets doing ____, they can tolerate that" doesn't work. TNA is the one with the uphill battle here. They're the ones who have to hustle to put on an impressionable product to grab those ratings. They'll always do stuff that's better than many things WWE are doing, but clearly that's not enough. I mean, see:

 

And **** y'all, The Nasty's if used right can be an asset. These guys have the charisma, they can get the crowd to hate them, just keep their matches under ten minute brawls. Build them up and then let them work with guys like Shelly and Sabin a great tag team that no one outside You, me and the cactus in the room give a **** about. Plus, The Nasty's were WAY ahead of their time! These were the guys that were wearing all black and doing the counter-culture look with leatherjackets and chains before that kind of thing became huge in wrestling with the attitude era.

 

Everything you just said here. Nobody knows that crap. The people they're tryna gather don't know what the Nasty Boys can or can't bring to the table. They don't know how they could be used better. And they damn sure don't know what the Nasty Boys used to represent. All they're gonna SEE when they flick in to Spike TV are exactly what's given in front of them. And that's apparently two guys chasing an invisible asthma tank.

 

The fact is, everyone could "be used better". They could be doing some maniacal beastly stuff with Samoa Joe and megapush him to the top, they could bring Daniels out of his rut and have him shine in the spotlight again. They could.. well, NOT do the things they do. It all comes back to what Remi said. Not many are gonna recommend stuff that sucks. A TNA fan shouldn't recommend someone to watch because of what they COULD do but because of what they're just doing.

[Linsolv]

Okay, I'm gonna step onto this landmine here, but...

 

It's really hard for me to take Daniels seriously whenever I see his so-called "Palm strikes." They don't even look they could hurt a newborn kitten, if he had spikes attached to his palms.

 

NB: I haven't seen any of his ROH stuff, so if this is a new development, my bad.

[jesterx7769]

He hasn't really been pushed solid in a while and given a chance to work a great strong style match. The matches between Joe/Styles/Daniels were a great American version of strong style wrestling and were intense. Now the matches on TV are 5 minutes long and usually not taken seriously/gimmicky. (Nastys w/Jimmy Hart actually in the match and winning, Beer Money vs Jarret, vs Hernandez, Love vs daffney, RVD vs Sting, Flair and Hogan in the ring, just pulling these from two weeks)

 

On a side note, like it or not, this is why I actually enjoyed NXT on Tuesday b/c it was basically all matches and its been a long time since I've seen 30 minutes (or so) of matches that weren't a joke (on either TNA or RAW)

[TommyDreamerFan]

Good God quit making me out to be a TNA Mark, when they do stuff I don't like I've been noting here.

 

And your right, The Nasty boys in TNA is keeping Matt Morgan/Pope/Anderson/Wolfe/Hernandez/BeutifulPeople/Daffney from getting pushed... OH WAIT! <.<

 

Okay, removing my TNA Rose Colored Glasses, The Nastys are giving Team 3D something to do thats not the TNA Tag Titles. It's important to keep them on TV, but away from the rest of the tag division because they don't need the belts.

 

Okay and hey, you want me to come down on TNA like the rest of you? Okay here goes!

 

If you want to talk people that are a waste of TV time that Hogan brought in, why aren't y'all complaining about Scott Hall? He's not even in condition to put on his bloody ring gear for Christ sakes! At most, if you pressed me to find use for Scott, I'd make him a manager but you know what? Why use Hall in that role when you got Raven backstage doing nothing? Why do a Hall/Nash feud that would of been more interesting 7 years ago when Hall could of actually did something. ELIMINATE HALL! Make it 6-Pac/Nash because at least Waltman is decent in the ring! Hell! Rhino isn't doing anything, do Nash/Rhino!

 

The only positive of the feud is that it just might give Eric Young a tad bit of a rub, but the only rub he'd be getting is being associated with Nash. And I need to stress the only reason I am complaining is because of the shape Hall is in. If he was still rocking the way he way 5 years ago bear minimum the angles alone have been interesting but then it's ruined when he's wrestling in a pair of jeans and TNA sweatshirt he wrote the words "WolfPac" on with a sharpie! THAT WOULD MAKE TNA SEEM AMATEURISH TO THE WWESHEEPLE, not a blown up Knobbs in the ring yelling "Welcome To Nastyville!" NO!

 

But oh okay The out of shape Nasty's, who still basically resemble who they were back when in their primes, who are still able to do the same stuff they did in their primes because all they did is brawl, who could still draw heat from the casual crowd, who people want to see when their feuding against Team 3D in an old school tag feud, who at very least post the Team 3D feud might be able to put over The Motor City Machine-guns in another feud. THOSE GUYS ARE THE SMOKING GUN OF WHAT'S HORRIBLE IN TNA! NOT HALL! <.<

 

Not to mention Rob Terry, Global Champion, has all the skills of The Ultimate Warrior. I mean if you really want to complain about work rate. Oh but I guess we can excuse him as well because he's young talent right? Certainly more fans are going to want to see Big Rob's feud then Team3D/Nastyboys because he's such a huge name. (actually, in all fairness, I think Big Rob is the only one in TNA with the look of a champion right now so I really do hope his wrestling skills improve)

 

One last thing, it's much much easier to look at something and dump on it rather then try to see the big picture and the reasoning behind something. Unlike the rest of you, so quick to assume TNA has all ready lost their war with the WWE and that there is no hope for ratings climb, I'm waiting till at least DECEMBER before I say TNA has no hope on Mondays. If it's been one year and their still barely holding a 1.0 fine. Move it back to Thursdays but by then I optimistically believe they'll be doing roughly the same numbers they were doing on Thursdays before the move. And won't that be monumental?

 

Pssh probably not for most. People will look at that and say "Oh look how pathetic they are! It took them a whole year just to get back to where they where one year prior" Completely disregarding, that you know, they built up a fanbase in little over a year.

[TommyDreamerFan]

WWE are successful because they're running simple storylines with relatable characters where they give the fans a reason to care. TNA doesn't. They don't give the fans a reason to care about what happens. Which is fine if you're ROH and are putting on spectacular matches and telling stories that way, but iMpact is, what 80% talking?

 

Really I don't get this assumption of yours that only simpletons like WWE and sophisticated wrestling viewers (annoying smarks) should enjoy TNA. WWE is stale and too talky, but it's decent. It makes sense. TNA is garbage.

 

In fact I'd say a fair bit of the TNA fanbase are TNASheeple. These people watch TNA specifically because it's not WWE. They'll watch anything that's not WWE and call it brilliant to decry the competition.

 

So what? Trying to get people to get behind Kurt Angle, a guy doing a freaking patriotic gimmick going against a loudmouth jerk like Kennedy. Oh yeah so not relatable.

 

A fun loving baby face like Pope getting beaten down by heels, contenuing to wrestling on an injured ankle. GOD I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT!

 

Abyss going from a pathetic mess to a man of great confidence because of Hogan's ring, most likely he'll lose the ring and find out he's been the monster all the long and not the ring. Oh yeah, thats not so simple I haven't seen that story done in other medium.

 

Eric Bischoff being an jerk boss, who you know is going to turn on Hogan eventually, torturing two company guys that only want to work Foley/Jarrett. HELLO AUSTIN/MCMAHON REVISTED!

 

 

I AM NOT SAYING THE TNA PRODUCT IS BETTER THEN THE WWE PRODUCT!!! I AM SAYING THE TNA PRODUCT IS JUST AS GOOD, PLUS IT'S A MILLION TIMES MORE FRESH!

 

The reason I don't watch WWE currently isn't because I hate it, it's because I'm bored with everything I've seen that I can see on it (admittedly if I could watch Smackdown, I'd be interested in seeing what they're doing with CM Punk).

[akujy]

If you want to talk people that are a waste of TV time that Hogan brought in, why aren't y'all complaining about Scott Hall?

 

I've just been reading some of these posts and...you think no one has been talking about Hall? Read the last pages,for crying out loud. Everyone's been complaining about him!

 

My God...i can see the light! I had an epiphany! The Nastys are the world's greatest tag team EVER, (NOT) just because they did the counter-culture look with leather jackets and chains before the attitude era! My GAWD KING! They were wearing all black!They were so ahead of their time! This one is a slobberknocker!!! How didn't i see this one early? They totally rock because they kick assez and they beat up people with chairz and they jump into tablez! By GAWD!!!!

 

SOrry, but i coudn't resist!

 

I'm gald you didn't! LMAO!

[Linsolv]

I havent mentioned Scott Hall because I lumped him together with Syxx Pac, and because the name "Waltman" comes so much easier to the tongue.

 

Honestly the only reason. But I'm a relative latecomer.

 

I've got an idea! Do Joe/EY! Then, you can give Joe a hilarious squash match at the PPV, that only lasts like 5 minutes of DANG THAT LOOKS LIKE IT HURTS and people can continue not to care about EY.

 

The WolfPac bit looked retarded, but then again so does Scott Hall, so perhaps it was smart after all.

 

I'm going to go on record here and say that I think tag wrestling is boring and I don't like watching it. Exception: MCMG, and anything with Prince Devitt (Who I think would be smart for TNA to try to bring in, tbh...) I mark for Alex Shelley and Fergal Devitt.

 

Incidentally, what they're doing with CM Punk is giving him a stable.

[shawn michaels]

"A fan asked Eric Bischoff the following question on his Facebook page: Why aren't you commenting on your thoughts on this week's ratings. They weren't better but I think everyone would like to hear what you think. Bischoff replied with this: Markus...you need to get a life." - (From Wrestlingexposed.com)

 

What on God's name?? So he wants the fans to get a life? Good! How about if they started their new life not watching TNA? Seriously...this is not the way to respond to ratings questions...This guy knows zero about beeing diplomatic...

[Linsolv]

<p>Okay - </p><p>

1: Bischoff's really more creative than PR, as I understand it.</p><p> </p><p>

2: I gotta imagine he's feeling the heat, and probably just wants to be left alone right now.</p><p>

At least that's how I'd feel. Maybe that's why I'll never be booking a national promotion. Or probably an independant promotion either, but who knows. I'm still young, things might make serious changes.</p><p> </p><p>

EDIT: Or he's working us. Props to Zeel for pointing out that suggestion.</p>

[Zeel1]

He's working us, clearly. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay - <p> 1: Bischoff's really more creative than PR, as I understand it.</p><p> </p><p> 2: I gotta imagine he's feeling the heat, and probably just wants to be left alone right now.</p><p> At least that's how I'd feel. Maybe that's why I'll never be booking a national promotion. Or probably an independant promotion either, but who knows. I'm still young, things might make serious changes.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Keeping quiet would be better then saying what he did. But come on...what was he thinking when the MNW re-started?? "I'm just gona get a bunch of old timers in the ring, push them, focus my shows on them...and...Voila! That´s the secret to beat WWE! How can i be the first one to discover this? I'm so great!" <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Linsolv]

*shrug* I dunno. I'm gonna blame this one on Russo. That's what everyone else does, and he doesn't seem to mind that much.

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>*shrug* I dunno. I'm gonna blame this one on Russo. That's what everyone else does, and he doesn't seem to mind that much.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, Russo was already a writter before he entered the wrestling business. And the guy is creative, but that doesn't mean he knows how to put an entire show together. That is why he is generally the first to be blamed. Wait...i'm a writer too...should i apply to a booking position on TNA? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[TommyDreamerFan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>"A fan asked Eric Bischoff the following question on his Facebook page: Why aren't you commenting on your thoughts on this week's ratings. They weren't better but I think everyone would like to hear what you think. Bischoff replied with this: Markus...you need to get a life."</strong> - (From Wrestlingexposed.com)<p> </p><p> What on God's name?? So he wants the fans to get a life? Good! How about if they started their new life not watching TNA? Seriously...this is not the way to respond to ratings questions...This guy knows zero about beeing diplomatic...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Bischoff probably thinks it's some smart-mark trying to be a jerk, and you know what? The kid probably was! Somebody whose trolling TNA workers on Facebook probably doesn't watch TNA anyway.</p>