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Thanks for the feedback guys. Can you please let me know which mod you're leaving it for now that I've added the May '01 data it may get confusing.

 

Lesnar and Henry are supposed to be making that much. I tried to scale it down to fit with TEW's economic scale so if I remember right they should actually be more.

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I'll make better references when I point out stat changes. And btw Ocelot, I think they only recorded Thunder on Mondays occasionally. And it's funny that you mention downloading the old stuff because I just finished watching all Nitros, WCW ppvs, and occasional WWF and ECW ppvs of 2000. It was one hell of a task. Took me months but it was great. If you have the time or the means to have them going in the background anytime, they're well worth downloading.

 

Also I was thinking I'd find and make some more updated pics for the pic pack if you don't mind. I'm going to play a little later and give you some critiques later today.

 

were did you watch them at?

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Interesting thought/problem about the January mod: Even in the negative with money and with popularity hurting really bad, the owners of ECW and WCW refuse to sell their promotions. Anyone know why the AI is acting this stubborn?

 

This was a problem for before as well...I'm not sure if an answer was ever developed?

 

Anyways I am FINALLY getting back to you about the mod, but please note I did the May 2001 instead given that I truthfully was more excited about the Invasion angle than stealing ECW/WCW talents and working my way to this point manually.

 

(Thank you for providing the option by the way, I am very grateful)

 

So far my mod has been fantastic. As you know, based on me telling you, I was critical at first of the difficult stats for the wrestlers, but now that I have worked on one of your mods (this is my first one that I've really dived into, I was and am a big fan of FutureLegend as well) I have a completely new outlook on the game.

 

Anyway, I have made it to Survivor Series and this MAY be the end of the WCWECW/WWF fued. Honestly everything has worked very well. Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall all came over eventually, Goldberg also made his way over and they all joined the WCW side. This actually happened very shortly after the mod started (Goldberg was a second monther but still) and really made the mod click. Sting didn't work out of course, which I love, and feel is a really strong aspect of the mod.

 

The only gripe/problem I guess, that I've come across is that when I did join ECW/WCW together (like real life) it had some problems at the beginning. WCW does fine by itself, and the talent can hold its own, but when I joined them together I had chemistry issues, and ECW's talent couldn't hold its own. Basically RVD, Rhyno and such, while talented, struggle to stand out in Main Event matches without serious pushes. Now, this may just be the way things were (and honestly I think it's fairly accurate) but just something to keep you informed about. I mean I pushed DDP to the moon, so what the heck do I know?

 

Also, hilariously enough Hulk Hogan and Chris Jericho had fantastic chemistry when I had them fight...not really a big "oh my goodness" type thing, but still I found it amusing.

 

Anyway, Gehandi, thank you for the mod and I'm sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. Keep going man your mods are great and I look forward to the next one.

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In the January version, the next Superbrawl comes up as 9 when it should be either numbered as 11, or switched to year. That year they had SuperBrawl: Revenge, but before that was SuperBrawl IX in 1999 and then SuperBrawl 2000, so whichever way you go, it needs changed.
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More thoughts, I also thought the wrestler stats were fairly...harsh. Wrestlers that hit their prime pre-2001 in the late 90's, wrestlers that are still amazing examples of skill in their respective areas in this mod had...very lackluster stats. I rarely ever saw anything above a C+ handed out which, to me, seemed highly unrealistic for a lot of wrestlers.
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More thoughts, I also thought the wrestler stats were fairly...harsh. Wrestlers that hit their prime pre-2001 in the late 90's, wrestlers that are still amazing examples of skill in their respective areas in this mod had...very lackluster stats. I rarely ever saw anything above a C+ handed out which, to me, seemed highly unrealistic for a lot of wrestlers.

 

This has been discussed like 20 times already (I'm not kidding) and the conclusion is always the same. And chances are, that you have probably played too much of those "B" average real world mods. If you don't like the mod, then don't play it, or create your own. It's a harsh fact, but unless you have some constructive critism, your opinion is.. worthless :)

[And I am not flaming you]

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This has been discussed like 20 times already (I'm not kidding) and the conclusion is always the same. And chances are, that you have probably played too much of those "B" average real world mods. If you don't like the mod, then don't play it, or create your own. It's a harsh fact, but unless you have some constructive critism, your opinion is.. worthless :)

[And I am not flaming you]

 

What he said is very true Gehandi mods are generally regarded as tougher mods. The fact is if you don't like the ratings you may just not be ready for this level of mods.

 

Yet futurelegends 2000 its an excellent mod and the ratings are higher. It may not be in 2001 but it'll lead you there pretty fast.

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More thoughts, I also thought the wrestler stats were fairly...harsh. Wrestlers that hit their prime pre-2001 in the late 90's, wrestlers that are still amazing examples of skill in their respective areas in this mod had...very lackluster stats. I rarely ever saw anything above a C+ handed out which, to me, seemed highly unrealistic for a lot of wrestlers.

 

If there are workers that you feel are underrated in specific areas, point out who and why they deserve a better grade in that area. It might be that they did get underrated. But blanket statements don't really address anything...

 

I take a look at the mod and see plenty of skill grades above C+ on the WWF and WCW rosters. ECW isn't full of highly-rated workers, but realistically, should they be?

 

Personally, I find it pretty unrealistic when the Performance skills of every WWF/WWE worker are basically B or better. That is unrealistically generous to me, and when you start getting A* matches on TV with a few weeks of starting, you realize the downside to having overpowered stats.

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Is there a reason you call me Gehandi, I don't mind just curious. I'm not Indian if that's what you're thinking... though I am dating one atm

 

And thanks guys, the followers of my mods know me and my work well enough that their responses are spot on. Please if you have an issue with any stats the team and I are open to make changes but they have to be warranted. Meaning at the very least point out the stats you're talking about and try to provide some reasoning.

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Is there a reason you call me Gehandi, I don't mind just curious. I'm not Indian if that's what you're thinking... though I am dating one atm :p

 

And thanks guys, the followers of my mods know me and my work well enough that their responses are spot on. Please if you have an issue with any stats the team and I are open to make changes but they have to be warranted. Meaning at the very least point out the stats you're talking about and try to provide some reasoning.

 

Haha embarrassingly enough I actually thought that was your user name. Also since most of my responses are from my phone I never checked so I just kept the name I assumed. Anyway my bad man, although now that you mention it I may just call you that anyway! Haha.

 

In terms of the mod I have made it to 2002 and must say I am quite happy with everything. TNA will start soon but I have most of their wrestlers they started with some I'm hardly concerned. Sting even signed when Flair and Heyman won a match with Brock representing them and HHH representing Vince. Don't know how to bring him in though...

 

Anyways just an update.

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<p>Come to think of it, wasn't Sting out at the beginning of 01? I seem to recall during the final Nitro they were saying about how he hadn't been around in months.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, Kanyon should be an egomaniac I think. He was either into or just about to get into the Champagne Kanyon gimmick.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Come to think of it, wasn't Sting out at the beginning of 01? I seem to recall during the final Nitro they were saying about how he hadn't been around in months.<p> </p><p> Also, Kanyon should be an egomaniac I think. He was either into or just about to get into the Champagne Kanyon gimmick.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His gimmick should be egomaniac or he should have that personality? In terms of him actually having that personality I would disagree as from what I've read he was a good dude backstage and a nice guy.</p><p> </p><p> In terms of gimmick though I agree.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="AmericanDragon2003" data-cite="AmericanDragon2003" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>His gimmick should be egomaniac or he should have that personality? In terms of him actually having that personality I would disagree as from what I've read he was a good dude backstage and a nice guy.<p> </p><p> In terms of gimmick though I agree.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry, I meant he should have that as gimmick.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="AmericanDragon2003" data-cite="AmericanDragon2003" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> In terms of the mod I have made it to 2002 and must say I am quite happy with everything. TNA will start soon but I have most of their wrestlers they started with some I'm hardly concerned. Sting even signed when Flair and Heyman won a match with Brock representing them and HHH representing Vince. Don't know how to bring him in though...</p><p> </p><p> Anyways just an update.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nice thanks for the feedback dude, just ftr this wasn't written to you...</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And thanks guys, the followers of my mods know me and my work well enough that their responses are spot on. Please if you have an issue with any stats the team and I are open to make changes but they have to be warranted. Meaning at the very least point out the stats you're talking about and try to provide some reasoning.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry I should've made that clearer <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RaptorRobertRage" data-cite="RaptorRobertRage" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>More thoughts, I also thought the wrestler stats were fairly...harsh. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually think some stats are a little high. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I might sticky this to my main post, I think the above quotes are a good sign for the mod. I would rather have some say stats are too low and some say they're too low than have everyone say one or the other. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I might sticky this to my main post, I think the above quotes are a good sign for the mod. I would rather have some say stats are too low and some say they're too low than have everyone say one or the other. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah typically that means they are where they should be. I like how you did your mod though. This is the only one I play.</p>
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