~ Official Release ~ January 2001 "End of an Era"

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>you could add AJ Styles and Air Paris to WCW, but I'll admit I don't know when exactly they were signed in as Air Raid.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AJ is already signed to WCW on a developmental deal...</p>

[TracyBrooksFan]

Love this mod playing as WWF of course (liked WCW and ECW then but die hard wwf fan).

[Beejus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>AJ is already signed to WCW on a developmental deal...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My bad, didn't realize that NWAW was their dev. Never mind that one then.</p>

[Genadi]

Thanks for the feedback guys I'll look at updating this between mods.

 

Can I please get some feedback on ratings? How's the grades after a few weeks to get used to the promotions? If people are having problems getting higher then Bs' and higher using the WWF for example I'll have a look into it.

[Lostrelms]

Thanks for the feedback guys I'll look at updating this between mods.

 

Can I please get some feedback on ratings? How's the grades after a few weeks to get used to the promotions? If people are having problems getting higher then Bs' and higher using the WWF for example I'll have a look into it.

 

My only real complaint, 3 years into a nice ECW game, which featured a year long invasion of WCW guys Sean O'Haire, Rey Mysterio, Lance Storm, and Gage (Gregory) Helms, and Vampiro, i sthat there is not a single worker on the roster, default or otherwise, that didnt bomb the rating in a hardcore match.. or brawl based match, and NOT give me the "Im out of my element" message after the match...

 

Guys who were notable garbage wrestlers, Balls Mahoney, and Sandman are the two most obvious... I had to phase out hardcore all together from my ECW, since i couldnt get over a 40 match rating in a hard core bout...

 

Honestly, aside from the hardcore and brawling stat, i cant complain one iota about stats that ive seen so far.

 

 

 

EDIT: One more thing, I dont know what owner stat it is, but Brad Seigle will not ever sell up WCW.. regardless of debt, he constantly gives the "Dont want to sell up" message.

[Jaysin]

Strange request, but can someone upload the belt.tw0 and belthistory.tw0 for me? I had a little flub and don't really want to download the whole thing again.

[shamelessposer]

Kurt Angle and Too Cool have incorrect alignments. Kurt should be a heel and Too Cool should be faces.

[Genadi]

<p><strong>I've updated the main post with the May 2001 mod.</strong> </p><p> </p><p>

There's only one extra pic that needs to be placed into the pic folder and all will link up to the same pack. I've only had a chance to do most of North America so far but I should get to the rest (nothing should be too much out considering it's only 4 months on) so please keep the feedback coming for both <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

<em>*Back to work*</em></p>

[pagoda]

is there anything new added or edited like promotions or is it just moved a few month forward either way im downloading

[Genadi]

ECW & WCW are dead, Pro Wrestling Zero-One is opened with roster assigned and WWF roster is up to date with the WCW contracts they absorbed signed. Title histories, narratives etc. have also been brought forward.

[Scrazy]

Hey, were you going to make two versions of May 2001? One where WCW was bought by Fusient and continued as well as being absorbed in by WWF.

[Genadi]

I was but there's so much work to do on the 1987 mod I wanted to do as much as I can before work starts again next week and I'm swamped.

 

Johnny Fenoli may be nice enough to update the exdisitng data to the "WCW lives on" scenario. The Jan '01 mod does have WCW in it and much more salvagable.

[Scrazy]

It's all good. But whenever you get the chance I'm sure there is more than a handful of people who would appreciate your work on it.

[MrCanada]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>I've updated the main post with the May 2001 mod.</strong> <p> </p><p> <em>*Back to work*</em></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you thank you thank you.</p>

[Scrazy]

<p>A few things at a time:</p><p>

Nitro was 2 hours at the time</p><p>

Mark Jindrak is set to 22 athleticism? Very athletic</p><p>

Lance Storms entertainment is pretty underrated</p><p> </p><p>

I'm going to add to this a little later.</p>

[D16NJD16]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Scrazy" data-cite="Scrazy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A few things at a time:<p> Nitro was 2 hours at the time</p><p> Mark Jindrak is set to 22 athleticism? Very athletic</p><p> Lance Storms entertainment is pretty underrated</p><p> </p><p> I'm going to add to this a little later.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, there are definitely a lot of stats that need tweaking, and I don't mean those objective ones B should be an A or A should be a B ones, I mean the ones that probably ended up the way they did because of the quick add template. I doubt the person who made a quality mod like this really sat there and pondered Mark Jindrak's athleticism and said "22" seems about right. Apart from the oversights like that, the stats are pretty well done for all the top guys who I'm guessing were manually set.</p>

[Genadi]

A few things at a time:

Nitro was 2 hours at the time

Mark Jindrak is set to 22 athleticism? Very athletic

Lance Storms entertainment is pretty underrated

 

I'm going to add to this a little later.

 

Thanks nice finds, will update for next release. Not sure about Storm but I'll review his ent. stats for sure.

 

Guys please leave the specualting about how or why some stats may be out for your own threads. We've been down this road a thousand times before and always the same guys that start it. Let's just say it's not hard to miss or overlook some stats when you're working on 6 mods in 3 months. That's why we encourage feedback.

[Ocelot]

<p>Yeah if there was one thing that bothered me about anybody's stats in WCW it was Lance Storm's entertainment. Yeah, he may not be able to cut the 'money promo', but just because his main lines were 'If I could be serious for a minute....' and 'Calgary.... Alberta, Canada' doesn't mean his mic is a D overall. I'd say it needs to be at least a D+, probably just barely a C-. His charisma I'd put somewhere in the D+ range.</p><p> </p><p>

If you need any help with anything WCW, probably not with stats really because they are mostly very accurate, but bio's or miscellaneous questions you can ask me. I've always found myself looking deeply into WCW's April 2000 through the end. At one point I had all of the Nitro's, Thunder's and (3) PPV's from 2001 on my hard drive. And I watched all the PPV's and most Nitro's.</p><p> </p><p>

Also of note (don't know if someone already mentioned this), but at the time WCW was taping Thunder directly after Nitro on Mondays. And airing on Wednesdays. So Thunder should be scheduled for Monday by default. I believe they started doing that in October of 2000.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyways, Genadi if you need help just say the word and I'll do my best. Keep up the good work.</p><p> </p><p>

EDIT: Oh and one more thing before I forget. Terry Taylor was with WCW as an agent at the time.</p>

[TracyBrooksFan]

Its a great mod

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ocelot" data-cite="Ocelot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28458" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah if there was one thing that bothered me about anybody's stats in WCW it was Lance Storm's entertainment. Yeah, he may not be able to cut the 'money promo', but just because his main lines were 'If I could be serious for a minute....' and 'Calgary.... Alberta, Canada' doesn't mean his mic is a D overall. I'd say it needs to be at least a D+, probably just barely a C-. His charisma I'd put somewhere in the D+ range.<p> </p><p> If you need any help with anything WCW, probably not with stats really because they are mostly very accurate, but bio's or miscellaneous questions you can ask me. I've always found myself looking deeply into WCW's April 2000 through the end. At one point I had all of the Nitro's, Thunder's and (3) PPV's from 2001 on my hard drive. And I watched all the PPV's and most Nitro's.</p><p> </p><p> Also of note (don't know if someone already mentioned this), but at the time WCW was taping Thunder directly after Nitro on Mondays. And airing on Wednesdays. So Thunder should be scheduled for Monday by default. I believe they started doing that in October of 2000.</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, Genadi if you need help just say the word and I'll do my best. Keep up the good work.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Oh and one more thing before I forget. Terry Taylor was with WCW as an agent at the time.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks dude will have a look at Storm's ent. stats tonight for sure. If a suggestion for a stat change is made examples like the one you gave are perfect. You made a great case for a change and it's highly likely there'll be one. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Would love you to do some bio's if you like, the link up now is the most recent data so you can either update those (please let me know if you are though so I'll hold off on any editing from this side). Then just send me the data and I'll re-up with other changes made and your bio's included.</p>

[kje3334]

<p>Is Brock Lesnar really supposed to make $300,000 per month? He makes more than The Rock lol.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm assuming you meant $300,000 over 5 years, which would be 60,000 per year, still quite a bit.</p><p> </p><p>

<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Good work</p>

[davidEFC]

Is Brock Lesnar really supposed to make $300,000 per month? He makes more than The Rock lol.

 

I'm assuming you meant $300,000 over 5 years, which would be 60,000 per year, still quite a bit.

 

Good work

Wait until you go in to development and look at Mark Henry's contract. I nearly had a heart attack when I got the pending response thing to release him. I know he signed a very lucrative deal back then though but I didn't think it was that much. ha!

[Ocelot]

Thanks dude will have a look at Storm's ent. stats tonight for sure. If a suggestion for a stat change is made examples like the one you gave are perfect. You made a great case for a change and it's highly likely there'll be one.

 

Would love you to do some bio's if you like, the link up now is the most recent data so you can either update those (please let me know if you are though so I'll hold off on any editing from this side). Then just send me the data and I'll re-up with other changes made and your bio's included.

 

Yeah sure I'll take a look at them tomorrow. I've got work from 2 pm until at least 11 pm tonight (it's 1:26 pm US central time right now).

[Scrazy]

I'll make better references when I point out stat changes. And btw Ocelot, I think they only recorded Thunder on Mondays occasionally. And it's funny that you mention downloading the old stuff because I just finished watching all Nitros, WCW ppvs, and occasional WWF and ECW ppvs of 2000. It was one hell of a task. Took me months but it was great. If you have the time or the means to have them going in the background anytime, they're well worth downloading.

 

Also I was thinking I'd find and make some more updated pics for the pic pack if you don't mind. I'm going to play a little later and give you some critiques later today.

[Scrazy]

Mike Awesome should be listed as a heel with an anti-American gimmick or something to that nature. He joined team Canada on the last Nitro of the year.

 

Ric Flair at the time was a face and was also the commissioner. He had been for about a month.

 

Rick Steiner had been a face since the whole Battledome cross promotion.

 

The Cat was a face

 

Chavo was a heel from turning on the MIA.

 

Crowbar (w/ Daffney) and Terry Funk should swap alignments as they were working a program with opposite roles. Funk should also be listed as full time. He was even working house shows I believe.

 

Meng was a face. He and Kwee Wee were doing an 'odd couple' kinda thing.

 

Finlay was making sporadic appearances and was working as a agent. When he was making appearances it was as an agent helping out Goldberg or Nash when he was a face.

 

No Glacier on the WCW roster. WCW was occasionally running video promos for the couple months leading up to 2001.

 

Bam Bam returned about a month before after being burned but was returning full time but he is listed as an occasional wrestler.

 

The Harris Boys should both be have listed gimmicks of 'Hired Gun'. They were Jarrett's badass buddies but they were primarily doing the whole hired gun thing just like Kronik but were being played off as being much cheaper. They were recently getting payed in sandwiches and drinks.

 

Evan Karagias was working with a Hollywood Snob kinda gimmick. Couldn't find what would be a good replacement yet though.

 

Mean Gene was just starting to use a comedic, dirty old man routine. Might need to create a gimmick for that. He'd talk **** to the heels and hit on the women.

 

Konnan was just playing the same old Konnan thing. Man on a mission just doesn't reflect it. Actually, the whole Filthy Animals stable should probably be listed as 'degenerate'.

 

Madusa was last seen on WCW as a face when she and Kidman were teaming up against Douglas and Wilson.

 

Midajah should probably just be listed as 'sexy' instead of 'seductress'.

 

Stevie Ray was clearly a face as shown by his commentary.

 

I'll do some more stat work later