The TCW Thread

[ampulator]

I always tweak the product some so popularity does matter and I run it as a sports entertainment promotion with a focus on in ring talent. This allows me to still use some of the guys who aren't as skilled in the ring and get good match ratings out of them.

 

What do you mean by that? Do you mean Popularity is rated more than Performance, or do you mean Popularity is rated equally as much as Performance? I usually lower Realism (as opposed to lowering Modern).

 

Unlike most TCW fans I rarely use Joey Minnesota in a big role. In the past I have traded him, fired him, and even flat out jobbed him out because of his attitude. When I have used him it has been as a International Title contender and never pushed him for the World Title. So much talent but such a bad attitude.

 

I don't fire or trade him, but I usually punish him. No pushes, lots of punishments when he causes incidents.

[juggaloninjalee]

What do you mean by that? Do you mean Popularity is rated more than Performance, or do you mean Popularity is rated equally as much as Performance? I usually lower Realism (as opposed to lowering Modern).

 

 

 

I don't fire or trade him, but I usually punish him. No pushes, lots of punishments when he causes incidents.

 

I make it so popularity is rated = with performance in the ring. Part of how I used American Buffalo and Texas Pete in my main event for TEW10 was because of their menace and them not completely bombing in all matches. Don't remember which I lowered since I haven't played a CVerse game in about a year. My longest game with TCW ran a few years using this product though. Rocky Golden had a couple long title reigns and huge wins in rivalries with Tommy Cornell, Sam Keith, Wolf Hawkins, and others.

 

Joey Minnesota never seems to get better to deal with though. I start off with punishment before getting really irritated. He isn't even a fun disruption for me usually. The earliest I think I ever fired him in a game was after a full year in game when I got tired of continually trying to improve his personality and his contract ran up and he refused to resign with me.

 

Koshiro Ino, and Danny Fonzarelli are fun to use and build up. Ino has made it to the main event for me without me trying but I never gave him a run with the World Title. Fonzarelli for me is usually a tag team specialist. He gets many runs in different tag teams. The Fonz would probably be great as an International Champion too now that I really think about it.

 

TCW really reminds me of WCW in the Monday Night Wars. Lots of talented guys can carry the promotion. Obviously the main event scene is loaded with guys who are really good in the ring though. So while I think of WCW of the 90s I am sure there are better comparisons to current TNA wrestling.

 

If I play as TCW I could see myself having Cornell dominate the whole game because he is just my favorite guy on the roster and always has been ever since TEW04 and HGC. Never really have been a big Wolf Hawkins fan. Loved Rocky Golden in TEW10 though. He was so much fun to use as the World Champion and continue to overcome whoever I could get to face him like Bruce the Giant, Sam Keith, and even Nemesis. The feuds I had were so much fun.

[Blake Trask]

Whilst there's a potential owner goal issue...

 

Edward Cornell is a positive influence, available on PPA, and signing him sends Tommy's morale into the stratosphere and makes him a positive influence too.

 

Pretty good and convenient backstage boost.

[Devilb0y]

Whilst there's a potential owner goal issue...

 

Edward Cornell is a positive influence, available on PPA, and signing him sends Tommy's morale into the stratosphere and makes him a positive influence too.

 

Pretty good and convenient backstage boost.

 

Not had a look at him without FOW but Eddie looks like a good worker this time round too.

 

EDIT: For the record I got TCW's backstage rating up to 76% in one week by doing the following:

 

Leadership Rank: 7

Fire: Jason Azaria (Slight cheat on my part as my User Character is a better announcer then Azaria)

Hire: Greg Gauge, Matthew Keith, Greg Black, Fox Mask, Mikey James, Chloe Dean & Steve Flash, all of whom fit with the TCW model.

[Blake Trask]

In 8row, which I unfortunately can't look at right now, I got it up to something like 75% inside that time with leadership 4.

 

My rationale? I'm going to be moving heaven and earth to increase the backstage anyway, so why put points in it?

[Teh_Showtime]

I don't know if anyone has realized this but apparently Mighty Mo is a perfect candidate for the Brute/Legit + Dominate push. Not sure if I should be doing this with him though...

[Shadowsong]

That still works? I thought it had been severely nerfed in 2013.

[Devilb0y]

That still works? I thought it had been severely nerfed in 2013.

 

I believe match grades rely a lot more on charisma now than they did in 2010, meaning you can't just monster push some untalented, uncharismatic monstrosity (Giant Redwood, I'm looking at you) just because they have high menace. If memory serves Mighty Mo's got pretty decent entertainment stats though, so he should be able to do it.

[Teh_Showtime]

That still works? I thought it had been severely nerfed in 2013.

 

Squash matches take into charisma more now so Mighty Mo is charismatic and it works for him as opposed to a Buddy Garner who has world class talent, but no charisma, so the dominate squashes hurt him

[dbritton987]

I'm considering restarting my TCW run now that I've learned a lot of the differences between '13 and all prior games. It is without a shadow of a doubt the toughest time I've had with TCW up to now, or any promotion in fact.

 

My first step is to change my avatar's beginning statistics with an edge towards leadership. I'm also considering giving my avatar a try at announcer, like someone mentioned, and give Azaria his walking papers.

 

Just a curious question I never thought to ask before. How far do you think a scripted match can go until it has a negative effect?

 

Also, with Tommy Cornell at 100 Psychology, how low do you think the other guy's Psychology can be and still have the match called in the ring?

[Teh_Showtime]

Me personally, I never script matches in TCW if it involves a midcarder or higher I will either call in ring or just use no note. I start to let people call in ring if their psychology is C+ and generally all of the main eventers are mid B- range plus Cornell and Vessey have elite psychology.

[bshankly]

I restarted my TCW game yesterday. I was a few months in with the old one, and had kept them national. USPW had dropped in the first month to cult.

 

I've decided to turn Wolf face after the first month, and have Wolf/Tommy be the main feud in the promo.

 

I've split it this way

 

 

Main.

Face Wolf, Joey, Kosihiro

Heel Tommy, Eddie, Vessey

 

Upper

Face RDJ, New Wave, Taylor

Heel Troy, Law, Machines

 

Mid Card

Face Danny, High Concept, La Connection

Heel Canadian animals, Bach, Texas Buffalo

 

 

I have tana and allen teaming up, but there brutal. Texas Buffalo are very had to get a good match out of. I'm thinking of sending Rocky to developement for a few months. Get his skills up a little higher and then bring him back. I did this before on 10 and it worked for him. I usually send pete to development but cant yet because of the backstage crap. I think, you really need to bring in new wrestlers for TCW to improve. But i'm trying to avoid that this time.

[dbritton987]

Me personally, I never script matches in TCW if it involves a midcarder or higher I will either call in ring or just use no note. I start to let people call in ring if their psychology is C+ and generally all of the main eventers are mid B- range plus Cornell and Vessey have elite psychology.

 

I laughed at this and felt foolish. I've played this game for god knows how long....I've never consider not having a note, whether scripted or called in ring. I convinced myself you needed one or the other to be successful. lmao

[Teh_Showtime]

I restarted my TCW game yesterday. I was a few months in with the old one, and had kept them national. USPW had dropped in the first month to cult.

 

I've decided to turn Wolf face after the first month, and have Wolf/Tommy be the main feud in the promo.

 

I've split it this way

 

 

Main.

Face Wolf, Joey, Kosihiro

Heel Tommy, Eddie, Vessey

 

Upper

Face RDJ, New Wave, Taylor

Heel Troy, Law, Machines

 

Mid Card

Face Danny, High Concept, La Connection

Heel Canadian animals, Bach, Texas Buffalo

 

 

I have tana and allen teaming up, but there brutal. Texas Buffalo are very had to get a good match out of. I'm thinking of sending Rocky to developement for a few months. Get his skills up a little higher and then bring him back. I did this before on 10 and it worked for him. I usually send pete to development but cant yet because of the backstage crap. I think, you really need to bring in new wrestlers for TCW to improve. But i'm trying to avoid that this time.

 

You dont really need to bring in new wrestlers asap, but eventually you will because the midcard isn't deep it's pretty much filled with either tag teams or hosses (Rahn, Tana, etc) , they have a great roster personally to me I consider it 2nd or 3rd best in the world after NOTBPW and the powerhouse SOTBPW. The main problem in TCW I find is getting your top level wrestlers over but once your main eventers are over, with their talent level you should be churning out B+ PPVs with relative ease. It usually takes a few months but by the Summer months I'm finding it pretty easy to get good matches and my guys are getting over and staying over even through their losses through good storylines and a bit of alliance trades to rotate some jobbers in the company from time to time while I can send 5 of my young workers out to improve too.

[pdandy]

What's the best solution for Vessey's roid problem? I sent him on a forced vacation to get his bad energy out of the backstage but he's back now and he hasn't changed.

[Shadowsong]

I think TCW's midcard is fine really. Guys like Texas Pete, Giant Tana and Genghis Rahn aren't great in the ring but they still can still get around C to C+ match grades with the right opponent which is fine for the undercard and there is also some really talented workers in the midcard like Brent Hill and Sammy Bach who can deliver grades that are pretty close to what some of the weaker main eventers can achieve.

 

On Rocky Golden, I don't think it's a great idea to send him into development. He's one of the most over workers on the roster so he's useful to keep around and his in ring skills will inevitably improve anyway when you put him against guys like Vessey, Cornell and Wolf. Personally, I currently have him feuding with Bryan Vessey. It keeps him busy and away from the title picture and being in the ring with Vessey is great for improving his skills. I do want to give him the World Title eventually, after he improves a bit.

 

What's the best solution for Vessey's roid problem? I sent him on a forced vacation to get his bad energy out of the backstage but he's back now and he hasn't changed.

 

I would also like to know this. He has been a real cancer to my backstage morale.

[BrokenCycle]

I would also like to know this. He has been a real cancer to my backstage morale.

 

The solution in TEW 10 was to press "fire" and keep him anyway.

 

No idea if that still works.

[Teh_Showtime]

It doesnt work anymore because you dont need another day to confirm the firing

 

I haven't had any problems with him honestly, mostly Minnesota and Chord.

[bshankly]

you can always stop drug testing and the vessey problem goes away.

[pdandy]

you can always stop drug testing and the vessey problem goes away.

 

What would be the repercussions of doing this? My understanding is if you make the rules more lax, you might fix the target issue but other issues would start popping up.

[NWAJCP4Ever]

My TCW Storylines & Angles

 

I purchased TEW recently after playing the trial version for a week or two. I had tried TEW a few years ago but didn't buy for whatever reason but the 2013 version of the game clicked with me better this time. I started out not having any idea what I was doing and subsequently lost 80K in January and my locker room morale is down to 37% but I'm just trying to have fun with it regardless.

 

I changed the International Title to the United States title (what's the difference between World and International Titles??) and created a new TV Title. Here are my current champions as of Week 2 in Feb 2013:

 

World Champion- Wolf Hawkins

U.S. Champion- Bryan Vessey

TV Champion- Joshua Taylor

All-Action Champion- Sammy Bach

World Tag Team Champions- Covert Ops (Recon & Sniper, formerly Guide and Scout of the New Wave...I hated their names so I changed them)

 

Here are some of the major storylines going down in my version:

 

- The top storyline pits the Syndicate against the top faces of the company. Yeah I know, it's been done before but I didn't know that until I got a few weeks into the game. The Syndicate is comprised of Wolf Hawkins, Tommy Cornell, The Ring Machines (John Anderson & Brent Hill) and Rick Law. Their main opponents have been Rocky Golden, Ricky Dale Johnson, Joey Minnesota and Covert Ops. I am building towards a Wargames match at the next PPV.

 

- There are several smaller angles within the over-arcing Syndicate storyline:

Rick Law vs. Joey Minnesota

Rocky Golden vs. Tommy Cornell

Wolf Hawkins vs. Ricky Dale Johnson

Covert Ops vs. The Ring Machines

 

KC Glenn has been brought in to add a new dimension to the Law/Minnesota feud.

 

- Joshua Taylor has been feuding with Troy Tornado over the TV Title. Taylor seems ready to take the next step and I've had Tornado put him over a couple times. I took Vita away from Edd Stone and put her with Tornado and they seem to be clicking well. Tracy Brendon (Taylor's wife) was recently signed and she has already been involved in the feud to give it an added dimension. I am building towards a mixed tag match with the TV Title on the line at the next PPV.

 

- I turned Texas Pete face and had him break away from Floyd Goldworthy's Gold Mine (I renamed the stable) and he has been feuding with Bison (formerly American Buffalo, didn't like it so I changed it) and his new partner Mastodon (formerly Killer Shark), known as the Man-Beasts. Also, Goldworthy has enlisted the services of Genghis Rahn who accepted a bounty on Pete's head from Goldworthy. I'm thinking about having Rahn join the stable full time. A new team called the Midwest Wrecking Crew (Bulldozer ((formerly Eric the Bull)) and Blockbuster) has also been involved and helping out Texas Pete.

 

- Aaron Andrews recently dropped the US Title to Bryan Vessey at the last PPV. After that, he pledged to go full time with Chance Fortune in the LA Connection. However, Fortune has not been holding up his end of the bargain which will lead up to a heel turn for Andrews at the next PPV. In the meantime, they are feuding with Doug and Eddie Peak.

 

- Joel Bryant is on a quest for respect and has challenged Vessey for the US Title at the next PPV. Bryant is not great on the mic so the verbal part of this angle will have to be carried by Vessey but both are great in the ring. Vessey is a huge backstage pain in the ass and I may release him after his next offense, even if it's the room-clearing fart that seems to come up often.

 

- TCW has declared that in the month of February, All-Action Title defenses must be made in 3-way and 4-way matches. A point system is in place for the non-title matches in this division and the winner will receive a shot at Sammy Bach in a Hardcore match at the next PPV. I plan on having the recently signed Jared Johnson get the shot. Jimmy Foxx, Jay Chord and Freddy Huggins have also been involved.

 

- In the absence of Greg Black, Benny Benson teamed up with Jimmy Foxx in a new High Concept tag team until Greg Black was finally brought into TCW, leaving Foxx as the odd man out. Benson insists that there are no hard feelings, but the Party Patrol (Freddy Huggins & Edd Stone w/Laura Huggins) have been recruiting Foxx hard to join their stable. Recently signed Alan Parent in a stoner gimmick will be joining the Party Patrol at the next TV show.

 

Future storylines:

-Aaron Andrews to turn heel on Chance Fortune and feud with him before moving into the main event scene to possibly feud with a face Hawkins or Cornell over the World Title

-Wolf Hawkins turns face against Cornell to get out of his shadow. Or I may have Cornell turn face against Hawkins.

-The Man Beasts have already inserted themselves into the Covert Ops/Ring Machines feud and will eventually take the tag titles and feud with the Midwest Wrecking Crew after they are more built up.

-Koshiro Ino will turn heel and become a dangerous Muta-like threat but I'm having a hard time figuring out how. I would like to bring in a Japanese manager for him but my game is only limited to the US at this point.

 

Recent signings:

KC Glenn

Silver Tiger

Jared Johnson

Alan Parent

Knuckles

Hudson Drake

Morgan Malone

Riley McManus

"Shocking" Matt Hocking

George Wolfe

 

I went a little crazy filling out the undercard and also signed about 16-18 workers to a new developmental territory (Great Lakes Championship Wrestling) along with several females in order to build a women's division so hopefully I don't go broke.

 

I'd love to hear about your storylines and ideas and any feedback as to what I'm doing.

 

Scott

[dbritton987]

I think TCW's midcard is fine really. Guys like Texas Pete, Giant Tana and Genghis Rahn aren't great in the ring but they still can still get around C to C+ match grades with the right opponent which is fine for the undercard and there is also some really talented workers in the midcard like Brent Hill and Sammy Bach who can deliver grades that are pretty close to what some of the weaker main eventers can achieve.

 

The only reason I'd send any of the midcarders to development is if I had too many people on my roster and no one below them needs improvement and/or is a benefit to the locker room. My opinion of them has changed, cause I didn't like them at all to start. But I prefer 18 faces and heels, and no more than 20 each.

 

So after I add all the guys to improve the locker room, some people need to go down. Killer Shark, Jeremie Courtney, & Elliot Thomas are the first to go. I have no faith in any of them to start. I sent down Mighty Mo down before, but I think I'm gonna keep him on the active roster this time. I might team him with Tana the Mighty and call them the Mighty Ones!

 

Just to reply to some topics here, I'm not sure successful squashing all depends on charisma. I tried thoroughly with a charismatic Eddie Peak and got nowhere. I'll keep trying though here and there with different people.

 

As for improving Minnesota & Chord's locker room troubles by giving them bonuses, is that a proven commodity? If so, how much approximately? Cause I'll cough it up in a heartbeat.

[dbritton987]

Boy did I pick a winner when I restarted TCW.

 

1) About half my roster are rated to have poor gimmicks and most of them it's too soon to change.

 

2) Scout lets out a big fart on the first card and I didn't pick the right reaction. Down goes the locker room rating!

 

3) 4 of my 6 matches on my first TV show were wrecked by poor chemistry. Which leads me to....

 

4) Joey Minnesota & RDJ have poor tag team chemistry. May I suggest when a team has 40 experience or more, it's impossible to have bad chemistry? I'm just saying!

 

So yeah...a definite Minnesota & RDJ breakup feud is coming now...unless they have bad chemistry wrestling each other lol.

 

On the bright side, Wolf Hawkins got a 85 & Edd Stone a 100 rating on their gimmick change. Danny Fonzarelli? Not so good....I barely gave him input!

 

Owner Goals on my New Game: Aaron Andrews & Freddy Huggins must be at 77 Momentum by deadline, gotta keep Joshua Taylor over 71 Momentum, no 45 years or older, nobody with law trouble, & no psychopaths.

[I Rule Me]

Owner Goals on my New Game: Aaron Andrews & Freddy Huggins must be at 77 Momentum by deadline, gotta keep Joshua Taylor over 71 Momentum, no 45 years or older, nobody with law trouble, & no psychopaths.

 

Pretty reasonable owner goals. At least you didn't get one where you had to get someone over who was on time decline.

[dbritton987]

Pretty reasonable owner goals. At least you didn't get one where you had to get someone over who was on time decline.

 

True, although I lost the Joshua Taylor goal after one card....when he won a match. The match didn't tank either, so I have no idea how he lost a crap load of momentum in victory.