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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Bobby Thomas vs Trent Shaffer

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Soothsayer vs Christian Price

 

Also...

 

Trent Shaffer: Yay or Boo?

 

I've enjoyed catching back up with this. It's exactly what CCW is like in my imagination but done in such a unique and interesting way. Everything from the general feel to the actual writing it all great. I think the main obstacle you've gotten over that I've never truly done in my game saves with them is make it feel like it is The DeColt show but at the same time build up plenty of other main characters well enough that it doesn't seem stale and repetitive.

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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Bobby Thomas vs Trent Shaffer

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Soothsayer vs Christian Price

 

Also...

 

Trent Shaffer: Yay or Boo?

 

^What exactly are you asking for this one? I love the character, but if you're asking whether he makes a convincing babyface, then my answer is no/boo. I'd cheer for him, but smarks cheer for good heels all the time. :p

 

And out of curiosity, IS Trent a "face" in game-term? He isn't acting like one, but if TEW sees him as a heel, the match ratings would have been brought down.

 

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On an unrelated note, for some reason I'm longing for a possible El Eet vs Sothsayer Mask-vs-Mask feud/match some time in the future. Would be cool and hilarious if Nate Johnson of all people ends up unmasking Soothsayer. :p

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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Bobby Thomas vs <strong>Trent Shaffer</strong></p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Soothsayer</strong> vs Christian Price</p><p> </p><p>

Also...</p><p> </p><p>

Trent Shaffer: Yay or <strong>Boo</strong>?</p><p> </p><p>

Not sure exactly what you mean by the Trent Shaffer question to be honest.</p>

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<p>The purpose of the question was to discover whether you thought Trent Shaffer's recent actions were that of a babyface or a heel. In the game, Trent was turned babyface during his early clashes with Poison. However, in the writings, I took for granted that you'd just accept him as a babyface, and my focus went instead into consistency of character. I didn't want to change Trent, I just wanted to use him against the bad guys. The problem being that Trent has arguably been the baddest guy in this diary thus far, and that hitting women is a lot worse than the performance-enhancing crimes of the CGC Champion. It was... a misstep. In an edgier promotion, it wouldn't have been so bad, but CGC isn't edgy. It isn't dark. It's good vs evil. </p><p> </p><p>

So now, I'm left with a choice. Either turn Trent Shaffer back heel, eat the in-game penalties, but keep the character creatively consistent. Or drastically change his character to fit the babyface role. Either way, I've got some rewriting to do.</p>

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Why not find a happy medium? I could easily buy Trent as a wannabe Blade who declares himself a Lone Wolf to make up for the fact nobody likes him enough to actually join forces with him. It allows the babyface clock to run out and you could easily have him just say to heck with it and turn him back heel when the time comes. Just a thought, though.
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<p>Trent Shaffer: Yay, but then I always popped for Trent.</p><p> </p><p>

I agree, CGC isn't a promotion about shades of grey. I assumed that Trent was in the early stages of a Face turn, and that his character would be developing into something more sympathetic. When Trent was running around trying to get help to fight in the tag team match and nobody was willing, leaving him the victim of a two-on-one beatdown, I assumed that he'd be working to prove himself a proper good guy, to avoid that happening again.</p><p> </p><p>

Maybe Trent gets all mopey about why nobody likes him, and some suitable Face decides to teach him a few home truths? Like, hitting women is bad and you shouldn't do it? Then Trent starts being all sincere, and gets a little bit like Angel out of Buffy, only for his inevitable turn back to Heel to come when he declares, "Ha ha, fooled you all, I was never really on your side!"</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35210" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The purpose of the question was to discover whether you thought Trent Shaffer's recent actions were that of a babyface or a heel. In the game, Trent was turned babyface during his early clashes with Poison. However, in the writings, I took for granted that you'd just accept him as a babyface, and my focus went instead into consistency of character. I didn't want to change Trent, I just wanted to use him against the bad guys. The problem being that Trent has arguably been the baddest guy in this diary thus far, and that hitting women is a lot worse than the performance-enhancing crimes of the CGC Champion. It was... a misstep. In an edgier promotion, it wouldn't have been so bad, but CGC isn't edgy. It isn't dark. It's good vs evil. <p> </p><p> So now, I'm left with a choice. Either turn Trent Shaffer back heel, eat the in-game penalties, but keep the character creatively consistent. Or drastically change his character to fit the babyface role. Either way, I've got some rewriting to do.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Personally, I think Trent's actions would have been relatively acceptable as a babyface if 1) Faith was a heel, OR 2) Faith was in the plot all along with Trent in an attempt to bring Joey back to the good side. For him to target a completely innocent character for the sole purpose of winning a title......I would have found that unacceptable for a face even in an "edgier" promotion. It'd be hard to see him as anything but a bad guy. I'm all for moral shades of grey in a guy's character, but a guy needs more than just "I'm fighting another bad guy" to be justified as a good guy, IMO.</p>
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Self, I'll post some truly immense feedback later, because right now I'm grappling with the immense stupidity of the IRL wrestling mess that occurred tonight, but I will say that Trent's character arc is perfectly acceptable, and theres really no reason to say that you screwed up, because you didn't. We all kinda know that Trent's role in this story is not as the main good guy(In which case it'd be failure, yeah), but as one of the villains like in comics that are pissed at the new bad-ass villain taking charge, and temporarily take the position of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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King Edward Multiplex, British Columbia</p><p>

Sunday Week 3 November</p><p>

5,000 in attendance SELL OUT</p><p>

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<em><strong>Davis Ditterich</strong></em><em> “Thanks to some frankly reprehensible actions, Trent Shaffer came close to winning the CGC World Title at “Survival of the Fittest”, but was eventually outnumbered by Soothsayer’s army.”</em></p><p><em>

</em><em><strong>Adrian Garcia</strong></em><em> “Poison is still World Champion, but in four weeks he’ll face his toughest test. The 5-man cage match known as a “Chamber of Horrors”. We will find out the first two challengers tonight.”</em></p><p> </p><p>

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<strong>PARKING LOT</strong></p><p> </p><p>

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CHRISTIAN PRICE is dropped off by his Mom, to find TRENT SHAFFER crouched in the shadows. </p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>TRENT SHAFFER</p><p>

Don’t be afraid, Christian Price. You are not my prey tonight. </p><p> </p><p>

CHRISTIAN PRICE</p><p>

Okay.</p><p> </p><p>

TRENT SHAFFER</p><p>

We come from different worlds. You are a white knight. I am a beautiful</p><p>

monster. Once upon a time, we would have been enemies, yet we</p><p>

share a common bond. Poison fears us. His army will stop at nothing</p><p>

to stop us from qualifying for the ‘Chamber of Horrors’ match. I</p><p>

suggest a truce. An alliance. A superhero team up.</p><p> </p><p>

CHRISTIAN PRICE</p><p>

Ooh. I mean... wait... Aren’t you kinda evil? I mean, you tried to </p><p>

hit Faith with a chair.</p><p> </p><p>

TRENT SHAFFER</p><p>

What? No. I “pretended” to try to hit Faith with a chair. I wasn’t actually</p><p>

going to do it. I’m a hero now. A dark, brooding, sexy anti-hero, but a</p><p>

hero nonetheless. We heroes need to stick together. So if you stop Soothsayer’s army from interfering in my match, I’ll stop them from </p><p>

interfering in yours. Deal?</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

With a shrug, Christian Price shakes Trent Shaffer’s hand.</p><p> </p><p>

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CHAMBER OF HORRORS QUALIFYING MATCH</p><p> </p><p>

/w Almighty Zeus <strong>BOBBY THOMAS VS TRENT SHAFFER</strong> /w Christian Price</p><p>

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<em><strong>Davis Ditterich</strong></em><em> “Bobby Thomas has been an ally to Soothsayer’s army before. I’m sure Poison would prefer he be in the Chamber of Horrors match than Trent Shaffer, as evident by Zeus’s presence at ringside.”</em></p><p> </p><p>

Trent tries to cave in Bobby’s sternum with sharp elbow strikes. Bobby cuts him off with a high knee and works him over in a methodical, business-like fashion, but Trent’s fast. Scary fast. Corner Dropkick! Lungblower! Zeus tries to interfere, but Price stops him with a few european uppercuts. The referee’s distracted. Handful of Glitter! Low Blow! 1... 2... 3!</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>TRENT SHAFFER QUALIFIES (7:35)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

<em><strong>Davis Ditterich</strong></em><em> “Price did the honorable thing stopping Zeus from getting involved, but it allowed Trent to cheat his way into the title match!”</em></p><p> </p><p>

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<strong>IN-RING</strong></p><p> </p><p>

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The Elite Prospects head to the ring. OZZIE GOLDEN texts. BRETT FRASER looms. WARREN TECHNIQUE stares blankly. EL EET poses dramatically, and grabs a microphone. </p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>EL EET</p><p>

Last Friday I fought an old enemy... I mean a guy I’ve never met before...</p><p>

named Jack DeColt. The result of that match isn’t important. What is </p><p>

important is that Adrian Garcia said on commentary that if one of us </p><p>

pinned a DeColt, it would get them into The Elite for sure. So that’s</p><p>

what I... um... we... are going to do. DeColts! We’re calling you out.</p><p> </p><p>

/w Ozzie Golden</p><p>

Brett Fraser, Warren Technique & “El Eet”</p><p>

<strong>ELITE PROSPECTS</strong></p><p>

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<strong>THE DECOLT FAMILY</strong></p><p>

Alex, Ricky & Jack DeColt</p><p>

/w Marie DeColt</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

<em><strong>Adrian Garcia</strong></em><em> “I have to say I applaud the initiative. This masked luchador is full of ideas.”</em></p><p> </p><p>

Alex struggles to best Fraser with his fists. Jack can’t quite control Technique on the ground. Ricky goes arm drag for arm drag with El Eet... but gets distracted by Ozzie brushing his hair at ringside, and falls victim to a double underhook powerbomb. The Prospects isolate Ricky, but start arguing amongst themselves as to who gets the pin, allowed Ricky to break free and make the tag. Jack goes berserk! Alex unleashes pinpoint counterpunches! Wild Ride (Reverse Death Valley Driver)! Tower Collapse Superplex! DeColt Fusion IV (Magic Killer)! 1... 2... 3!</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>THE DECOLT FAMILY WIN (9:31)</p><p> </p><p>

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<strong>BACKSTAGE</strong></p><p> </p><p>

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Sad and alone, FAITH is loading up a t-shirt gun. JOEY POSION watches from the shadows with clear eyes, hugging his CGC World Title close. Strange Chimes alert him to the presence of SOOTHSAYER.</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>SOOTHSAYER</p><p>

You owe her nothing. She was the one who turned her back on you.</p><p>

She was the one who didn’t want you to be champion. She wanted </p><p>

you weak. She wanted you vulnerable. By my hand you will never</p><p>

be those things again. Your reign will stand the test of time.</p><p> </p><p>

JOEY POISON</p><p>

But what if Shaffer and Price both qualify for Chamber of Horrors?</p><p>

What if they work together?</p><p> </p><p>

SOOTHSAYER</p><p>

They won’t. The vampire only thinks of himself. He used the halfwit</p><p>

to qualify for the Chamber, but when the time comes to return the </p><p>

favour he’ll slink back into the shadows. I will defeat Christian Price</p><p>

tonight, and when the doors close on that Chamber, I will be </p><p>

standing at your side. </p><p> </p><p>

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<em>Introducing first. Accompanied by the CGC World Champion Poison.</em></p><p><em>

Hometown not specified. Height not specified. Weight not specified.</em></p><p><em>

He’s seen the future! He is...</em></p><p>

<strong>SOOTHSAYER</strong></p><p>

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<em>...and his opponent, accompanied by... um... No one, I guess.</em></p><p><em>

He stands 6 feet 6 inches tall and weighs in at 278lbs. Hailing</em></p><p><em>

from Montreal, Quebec.</em></p><p>

<strong>CHRISTIAN PRICE</strong></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

<em><strong>Davis Ditterich</strong></em><em> “Poison is here at ringside to make sure a friend makes it into the Chamber, and not another enemy. Where’s Trent? I thought he and Price were watching each other’s backs.”</em></p><p><em>

</em><em><strong>Adrian Garcia</strong></em><em> “He’s probably half way home by now. He’s already qualified. Why should he care?”</em></p><p> </p><p>

Price overpowers the smaller man early, but is lured outside and into the path of Joey Poison’s flying forearm, behind the referee’s back. Soothsayer picks him apart. Whenever Price tries a european uppercut, Soothsayer counters it with his supernatural precognition. Stinging Kicks! Seated Face Plant! Nothing Price tries seems to fool Soothsayer’s keen foresight, until he throws the masked mystery into the sky and european uppercuts him in mid air! Soothsayer’s wobbly! Price unleashes more uppercuts. Simple. Effective. Unstoppa-</p><p> </p><p>

Joey Poison “accidentally” trips him. Overhead Kick! 1... 2... Price kicks out and fights back- but again Joey interferes. Harbinger (Flying Flip Neckbreaker)! 1... 2... Price just barely kicks out. He’s too stupid to die! Joey Poison is irate, trying to get into the ring. Referee Francis Long turns his back on the action to stop him.</p><p> </p><p>

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TRENT SHAFFER finally shows up, throws a handful of glitter in Soothsayer’s eyes. Low blow! Oblivious to the interference on his behalf, Christian Price hits the Price Check (TKO)! 1... 2... 3!</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>CHRISTIAN PRICE QUALIFIES (14:24)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

Joey Poison tries to hit an exhausted Christian Price with the CGC World Title, but Trent saves the day with a dropkick. Joey flees! Trent offers a handshake to Christian... who ignores it to give the Sparkling Vampire a big hug!</p><p> </p><p>

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<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p366/celdom/CGCmain/banner2_zps7348bd80.jpg</span></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Trent Shaffer and Christian Price Chat: B+</p><p> BOBBY THOMAS VS TRENT SHAFFER: C</p><p> El Eet Promo: C</p><p> ELITE PROSPECTS VS DECOLT FAMILY: C+ </p><p> Joey & Soothsayer: B </p><p> SOOTHSAYER VS CHRISTIAN PRICE: B-</p><p> Hug it out B </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="font-size:18px;">FINAL RATING: B-</span></p><p> TV Rating: 1.45</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p366/celdom/CGCmain/banner2_zps7348bd80.jpg</span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Enjoyed the conversation about Trent. I like how the booking ideas all seem to come from a pop culture based (Angel, Mortal Kombat, Blade, Comics) which fits Trent "Twilight Fan Fiction" Shaffer to a tee. I still don't fully know what I'm doing with him. His gimmick rating's in the toilet right now (forgot to change it when he turned) and fans don't like that I set him to turn again so soon. I don't want to pull the trigger on anything, but hopefully those penalties will hurt the scores in a semi-realistic way for now. I like what I'm writing, but it isn't reflected in game. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Psycho Sam" data-cite="Psycho Sam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35210" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I liked that Warren Technique was in the final four. With Adrian's statement, I thought Warren was gonna win it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The result was out of my control (WreSpi stats + Random Numbers = Shoot Fitness competition) but I would have gotten a kick out of Warren winning. Or any Elite Prospect. Or anyone unexpected. I'm kinda annoyed Ricky won, but as a WreSpi main eventer he had the stats advantage, I guess.</p><p> </p><p> The card for next week's show!</p><p> </p><p> Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Almighty Zeus vs Sean Deeley</p><p> Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs Donte Dunn</p><p> Warren Technique vs Jack DeColt</p><p> </p><p> And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?</p>
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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Almighty Zeus </strong>vs Sean Deeley</p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>El Eet</strong> vs Donte Dunn</p><p>

Warren Technique vs <strong>Jack DeColt</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

</strong> And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or <strong>Warren Technique?</strong></p>

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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Almighty Zeus</strong> vs Sean Deeley <em>With Soothsayer out, I think Joey should have at least one ally in the match.</em></p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs <strong>Donte Dunn</strong> <em>The DeColts need a representative in the main event!</em></p><p>

Warren Technique vs <strong>Jack DeColt</strong> <em>Metagaming here......I don't think Warren is over enough for Jack to be willing to do the job.</em></p><p> </p><p>

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, <strong>Ozzie Golden</strong> or Warren Technique? <em>No real reason.....his character just seems to.....fit......the stable more than the other 3.</em></p><p> </p><p>

Trent's face-run definitely isn't unsalvageable. I was fine with most of what he did until the assault on Faith, which was why I suggested the possibility of Faith actually working with Trent as a willing accomplice/sacrifice to help Joey. Trent's character doesn't need to go through a drastic change. He could still be working entirely for self-serving reason (Joey turning good again deprives him of Soothsayer's help and the magic potion, which makes him an easier opponent for Trent). His interest just happens to coincide with Faith's.</p><p> </p><p>

It's fine for face characters to perform morally questionable acts, even in CGC. You've already done that successfully with the DeColts (well, Alex and Ricky) when they tried to use Faith to gain information about Joey. It wasn't exactly "right", but the DeColts can tell themselves that they're doing it for the greater good, and Ricky had the conscience to feel bad about it. In contrast, Trent hasn't shown any kind of difference in his attitude when he does the exact same things that were supposed to make him hated as a heel earlier (attacking women, and being nonchalant about it when he was reminded of how he slapped Jenny). Like I said, there doesn't need to be a drastic change in character, but there should be <em>some</em> sort of change, however minor, to indicate that the fans are supposed to react to him differently. It doesn't even have to be what the character does, but can also be what he <em>doesn't</em> do after the turn. Randy Orton was still a guy with uncontrollable temper who likes to hurt people when he turned face, he just stopped relying on his Legacy lackies to win matches. Eddie Guerrero as a face was still a cheating bastard who's more than happy to take shortcuts to win, but he wasn't hiding behind Chyna and letting a woman do his fighting. WWE never even indicated that he wouldn't have done the same if given the opportunity, they simply avoided that issue by not pairing him up with any women. He still doesn't play fair, but instead of being a guy who hides behind stablemates and girlfriend, he's seen as a guy who wins because he's smarter than his opponents and out-cheats them.</p><p> </p><p>

So yeah, I think Trent doesn't have to become some white knight or nice guy to be a face, he just needs to not be put in situations where he has to do things that are quite as despicable as he used to do as a heel.</p><p> </p><p>

......Sorry for the long rant. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Almighty Zeus</strong> vs Sean Deeley</p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs <strong>Donte Dunn</strong></p><p>

Warren Technique vs <strong>Jack DeColt</strong></p><p> </p><p>

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, <strong>El Eet</strong>, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?</p><p> </p><p>

I agree with Greylocke. Trent doesn't need to be changed back to a heel so quickly plus hving him team up with Christian Price is a great way to keep him likeable as you have the sexy antihero who does bad deeds with the nerdy loveable goody two-shoes. I'm just waiting for Trent to decide to teach Christian how to flirt at a bar somewhere or Trent deciding to make Christian a werewolf.</p><p> </p><p>

Reminds me of Aiden (blue/vampire) and Josh(werewolf) from Being Human</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/18300000/Aidan-Josh-being-human-us-18340419-602-337.jpg</span></p>

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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Almighty Zeus vs Sean Deeley


Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs Donte Dunn


Warren Technique vs Jack DeColt

 


And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?

 


His name says it people. He is El Eet. Not some pretty boy with a phone, not some moose hunting psychopath and definitely not this poster's second favourite CGC worker. Technique will get his shot later when Dan DaLay screws up and Technique is there to pick up the pieces.

 


As for Trent, the line "A dark, brooding, sexy anti-hero" sealed it for me. Trent knows what he is and I, for one, love him for that. More sexy brooding Trent!

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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Almighty Zeus vs Sean Deeley

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs Donte Dunn

Warren Technique vs Jack DeColt

 

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?

 

Trent is a character you "love to hate". He gels well with the atmosphere of the promotion, though I'm not sure I'd like the depiction in another diary. Face is a natural turn, and it's being handled well.

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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Almighty Zeus vs Sean Deeley

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs Donte Dunn

Warren Technique vs Jack DeColt

 

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?

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Woohoo! Finally caught up on the action here after a stupidly long time of not having enough time to read. First week off and I've put a good few hours into catching up, and it was worth every minute. :D Loving the presentation in general and all of the fun little touches that make this so awesome. And hopefully (even though I'm sure you're not paying much attention to them) BHOTWG is still doing good business with the signings I made for them. :)

 


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Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: Almighty Zeus vs Sean Deeley


Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: El Eet vs Donte Dunn


Warren Technique vs Jack DeColt

 


And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?

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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Almighty Zeus</strong> vs Sean Deeley</p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>El Eet</strong> vs Donte Dunn</p><p>

Warren Technique vs J<strong>ack DeColt</strong></p><p> </p><p>

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, El Eet, <strong>Ozzie Golden</strong> or Warren Technique?</p>

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<p>Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>Almighty Zeus</strong> vs Sean Deeley</p><p>

Chamber of Horrors Qualifier: <strong>El Eet</strong> vs Donte Dunn</p><p>

Warren Technique vs <strong>Jack DeColt</strong></p><p> </p><p>

And a question. Which Prospect do you think stands the best chance of making it into The Elite? Brett Fraser, <strong>El Eet</strong>, Ozzie Golden or Warren Technique?</p><p> </p><p>

<em>He's a real breath of fresh air. A luchador the likes of which CGC has never seen before... </em><img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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