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No that's not it. My product isn't affected by that.

Than what is it I wonder. I know popularity goes up by fractions but this seems maybe a little extreme, especially since I was gaining a full point every other show when I was starting.

 

Yes, but the more you gain the harder it becomes to gain. I don't know how one is affected exactly by economy/industry if they have a product set to not be rocked by changes. That's actually a pertinent question.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bonafide_Bluffa" data-cite="Bonafide_Bluffa" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do titles take a prestige hit if they arent defended for a while?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In my experience they do, yes. It might depend on the frequency settings too. A World title only set to be defended at Events may retain its prestige longer than say a TV title if they went the same amount of time.</p><p> </p><p> My question: if I take a worker's hair in a match, does it come back or he is bald for life?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bonafide_Bluffa" data-cite="Bonafide_Bluffa" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do titles take a prestige hit if they arent defended for a while?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They sure do. I'm unsure of the length but they surely do.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In my experience they do, yes. It might depend on the frequency settings too. A World title only set to be defended at Events may retain its prestige longer than say a TV title if they went the same amount of time.<p> </p><p> My question: if I take a worker's hair in a match, does it come back or he is bald for life?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty sure it comes back...</p>
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<p>When I filter a list of workers on "In-Ring Workers", what skills am I actually filtering on? I had always assumed it was top row skills, until I came across this row of skills on a worker as a "Great In-Ring Worker":</p><p> </p><p>

<img alt="12e233e3b1b54d27bd068fad15b84f03.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/12e233e3b1b54d27bd068fad15b84f03.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Which made me assume it was maybe an average of top and second row skills or something, but does someone actually know?</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Danny_H22" data-cite="Danny_H22" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do i remove a preset narrative in a game I have already started?<p> </p><p> I am playing the Montreal Prelude mod and HBK is due to retire soon. I also want to cancel WCW and ECW going bust</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Use the in-save editor and set the narratives to happen before your current date.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Danny_H22" data-cite="Danny_H22" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do i remove a preset narrative in a game I have already started?<p> </p><p> I am playing the Montreal Prelude mod and HBK is due to retire soon. I also want to cancel WCW and ECW going bust</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In the in-game editor. Options > Edit Data > Narratives. You can't delete them, but you can set it to a different year.</p>
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Yes, but the more you gain the harder it becomes to gain. I don't know how one is affected exactly by economy/industry if they have a product set to not be rocked by changes. That's actually a pertinent question.

 

So the issue seems to have resolved itself. I've gone from gaining a point every 4-5 shows to gaining a point every 2 shows. There are two possible explanations for this.

 

1) The Wrestling Industry got out of the toilet. Even a jump from 1-30 seemed to have a tangible effect on how quickly I gained points.

(Reminder, my product is not rocked by industry changes)

 

2) At the same time the economy recovered. My little company doesn't have enough income to match the production values of my rivals, but once I started making more money I was able to at least mitigate this by raising my production a little. Obviously my show ratings went up a bit, but my shows were already good enough to gain me popularity. So do production penalties only have an effect on show rating or can they directly affect pop gains?

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Im using the post screw job mod and I’m currently IWRG. I’m looking to bring in talent not normally available to me from areas like japan and Europe. I’ve never really played around with alliances and working agreement relationships as I’m more on an island to myself but I’m trying something different this game. I guess I’m just looking to see what you guys have to say about the pros and or cons of your experience with either
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<p>So, I have a strange problem I’ve never encountered before... I’m playing as ECW in June 1998 and it’s my first time playing a Performance over Popularity promotion (not that I’m sure this is the reason for my issue, but thought I might mention it).</p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, I set RVD as my Figurehead, even though he’s not the top guy, I figured in the year it takes him to be established I’d build him up to the top guy. But in two months of playing I can’t get him to raise his Pop AT ALL. He’s putting on good matches, shoots an 80ish promo rated Entertainment every week, but all he’s done is lost 5 pop in the first month after eating a loss, and has been unable to gain a single skerrick.</p><p> </p><p>

Maybe it’s because he’s a Figurehead and he’s still a heel? Is that an issue? I’ve never had this happen before, usually guys with good entertainment just put on pop at such a rapid pace from good angles alone, but this guy is putting on great matches too. And surely he’s not at his popularity cap, seeing as he’s only about a 44 (started at 49).</p><p> </p><p>

Any thoughts??</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Nickman" data-cite="The Nickman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, I have a strange problem I’ve never encountered before... I’m playing as ECW in June 1998 and it’s my first time playing a Performance over Popularity promotion (not that I’m sure this is the reason for my issue, but thought I might mention it).<p> </p><p> Anyway, I set RVD as my Figurehead, even though he’s not the top guy, I figured in the year it takes him to be established I’d build him up to the top guy. But in two months of playing I can’t get him to raise his Pop AT ALL. He’s putting on good matches, shoots an 80ish promo rated Entertainment every week, but all he’s done is lost 5 pop in the first month after eating a loss, and has been unable to gain a single skerrick.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Maybe it’s because he’s a Figurehead and he’s still a heel?</strong> Is that an issue? I’ve never had this happen before, usually guys with good entertainment just put on pop at such a rapid pace from good angles alone, but this guy is putting on great matches too. And surely he’s not at his popularity cap, seeing as he’s only about a 44 (started at 49).</p><p> </p><p> Any thoughts??</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know that is considered an issue. Also, popularity seems to fluctuate given the crowd you have on your roster. I struggled making a FH even though I had a year to work on it because he other workers kept gaining popularity faster. I was making progress, but not as much as the rest of my ME workers. Which was a problem since the FH is supposed to be the shiniest jewel so to speak.</p>
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<p>Low Rank Titles</p><p> </p><p>

I have an issue with low ranking titles. </p><p>

I added one (actually bought one from a defunct fed) because it sounds fun/neat. </p><p>

Something to have my lower midcard and openers kick around until they are ready for higher up the card. (Perf > Pop)</p><p>

But every time I have someone win the low ranking title they get higher popularity and want to get moved to midcard (or higher). <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

Good, that was sort of the point of the belt. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

But then I have to get the belt off of them to give to the next young lion/old-aged veteran. Someone in the lower midcard that the title is desinged for (it is lower rank title). </p><p>

But the current title holder(s) never wants to lose to someone less popular. <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

How do I anchor the title to the lower midcard status it was designed for? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CharlieRock" data-cite="CharlieRock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have an issue with low ranking titles. <p> I added one (actually bought one from a defunct fed) because it sounds fun/neat. </p><p> Something to have my lower midcard and openers kick around until they are ready for higher up the card. (Perf > Pop)</p><p> But every time I have someone win the low ranking title they get higher popularity and want to get moved to midcard (or higher). <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> Good, that was sort of the point of the belt. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> But then I have to get the belt off of them to give to the next young lion/old-aged veteran. Someone in the lower midcard that the title is desinged for (it is lower rank title). </p><p> But the current title holder(s) never wants to lose to someone less popular. <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> How do I anchor the title to the lower midcard status it was designed for? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are a few ways of doing it. One is vacating it, but that's a last resort. The other one is making him lose to someone more willing to put others over, someone who is next to his overness level. You can always put the title as floating, although that part won't probably help with guys that don't wanna lose to others much less over. And so on. They key here is finding the right person to put the title on and then take it down to the workers you want. If all else fails, start a new reign yourself and go the Pat Patterson route, with the Brazil tournament. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You can simulate it as having been lost in a house show this way.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CharlieRock" data-cite="CharlieRock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> But the current title holder(s) never wants to lose to someone less popular. <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> How do I anchor the title to the lower midcard status it was designed for? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There is a way to do this. I don't think it's intended, but it's a workaround. </p><p> </p><p> Put Keep Strong or Protect on the loser. Put Protect on the winner. Protect on the winner will lower his possible popularity gain. I did a test on this a while ago and I don't remember the specifics, but it works quite well. Also, you only get dinged for booking decisions once.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are a few ways of doing it. One is vacating it, but that's a last resort. The other one is making him lose to someone more willing to put others over, someone who is next to his overness level. You can always put the title as floating, although that part won't probably help with guys that don't wanna lose to others much less over. And so on. They key here is finding the right person to put the title on and then take it down to the workers you want. If all else fails, start a new reign yourself and go the Pat Patterson route, with the Brazil tournament. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You can simulate it as having been lost in a house show this way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks! The last title I put as floating is now a second ME title. It's still technically "floating" but it's prestige rating is as high as my ME title. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> ... so probably not going to do that again.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is a way to do this. I don't think it's intended, but it's a workaround. <p> </p><p> Put Keep Strong or Protect on the loser. Put Protect on the winner. Protect on the winner will lower his possible popularity gain. I did a test on this a while ago and I don't remember the specifics, but it works quite well. Also, you only get dinged for booking decisions once.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wow, cool idea. Thanks.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are a few ways of doing it. One is vacating it, but that's a last resort. The other one is making him lose to someone more willing to put others over, someone who is next to his overness level. You can always put the title as floating, although that part won't probably help with guys that don't wanna lose to others much less over. And so on. They key here is finding the right person to put the title on and then take it down to the workers you want. If all else fails, start a new reign yourself and go the Pat Patterson route, with the Brazil tournament. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You can simulate it as having been lost in a house show this way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> One thing that I've done is have a 3 or 4 person match with the winner of the belt and the loser not involve the champion at all. I used the Keep Strong on the champ and it (to my mind) is one of those times when the champ says he only has a 1 in 3 chance of keeping the title, it comes true. The Angel/Jericho/Benoit title matches where Angel lost both titles to both Chris' without being involved in either fall was on my mind when Scythe moved into the Upper Mid Card and held 2 lower titles.</p><p> </p><p> I've also had a new feud setup for the champ to start and have that guy interfere with the match allowing the champ to move on to another storyline while letting my new champ have new challenges to face.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CharlieRock" data-cite="CharlieRock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know that is considered an issue. Also, popularity seems to fluctuate given the crowd you have on your roster. I struggled making a FH even though I had a year to work on it because he other workers kept gaining popularity faster. I was making progress, but not as much as the rest of my ME workers. Which was a problem since the FH is supposed to be the shiniest jewel so to speak.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So am I better off removing RVD as the figurehead until he's the most popular and then reinstating it?? Or alternatively should I turn him face immediately and keep the FH on him?</p><p> </p><p> I've honestly never had this problem before because I think my FH has always been a Face AND the most popular guy.</p>
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If you were to start a two player game by yourself and wanted two companies to work together side-by-side, is there a way to book crossover shows? Basically I want to play as both 4C and ACPW, not looking to make ACPW a developmental but to form an alliance and have several yearly events where both feds send their best workers to battle for bragging rights. Would I have to do alliance loans or is there an easier way if I control both companies?
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