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I have always been very into the Tupac "Death" I've read and watched so many things on Tupac , that I decided to make a thread about it. To start off here are 20 reasons why I think Tupac is alive.

 

1. 2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?

(But that is not all Machiavelli did, Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)

 

 

 

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2. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.

(An autopsy picture "leaked" onto the Internet, click here to take a look. However, this could easily be a fake picture.)

 

 

 

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3. 2Pac has completed several movies and new albums and keeps on appearing on new artist's albums. (Many of the unheard songs 2Pac has completed are unreleased and not on any albums) Why would he do so much at one time??? With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash,

(Yet 2Pac had big plans for 'Makaveli Records'. This may be why he's completed so many songs. Makaveli Records is the the new record company 2Pac planned on doing with "Tha Outlaw Immortalz". He was leaving Death Row Records. Suge Knight could have killed 2Pac so they could get all the money. 2Pac's mother is currently suing Death Row Records for this money.)

 

 

 

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4. In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.

 

 

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5. The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli, features 2Pac posed as Jesus Christ, Could he be planning a resurrection?

 

(Death Row Records probably did this for the publicity. It just adds to the whole 2Pac alive stuff which has been getting the album more sales.)

 

 

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6. Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

(This works both ways, The payoff city Las Vegas could be a factor in either 2Pac faking his death OR Suge Knight killing him.)

 

 

 

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7. The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON?

 

 

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8. There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album, "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too, The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this?

 

 

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9. Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also that statement by 2Pac saying when he came out it would be like he was reborn. (Refer to #4)

 

 

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10. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death , 2Pac dies in that video, then a new video came out under the name "Makaveli". Its just like 2Pac died in "I Ain't Mad At Cha", and Makaveli was born in "Toss It Up". Exit 2Pac Enter: Makaveli. It all makes sense.

 

 

 

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11. In the video "Toss It Up", 2Pac is supposedly wearing some Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!!!! Also, some say in the video "Live & Die In LA" when 2Pac jumps in the car you see that he is wearing some Michael Jordan sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!

 

(If 2pac is dead, then his double is doing his new videos, So, that explains the shoes!)

 

 

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12. In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

 

 

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13. 2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time, why not?

 

(I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???)

 

 

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14. The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.

 

(This could be in the request of family or friends. It's quite possible.)

 

 

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15. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once, He was 'grazed' by a bullet, Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

 

 

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16. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found, How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

 

 

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17. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters, . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?

 

 

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18. A shooting involving Snoop canine Dogg occurred close to the release of his album CanineApproach which made Snoop appear more "real" and showed that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, CanineApproach went platinum. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

 

 

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19. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this , there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the back of the car, and then she wasn't, what's the deal for real?

 

 

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20. Have you seen the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli?? I have heard it's not 2Pac in that video. It is the look-alike from Ohio. (That's why '2Pac' never looks at the camera) The video starts out showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! You then hear garbled words and then they show 2Pac (Makaveli) up posing as Jesus Christ again! That's Twice! Once on the album & now in this video!

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1. 2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?

(But that is not all Machiavelli did, Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)

 

No.

 

Machiavelli neither did nor advocated any such thing. He also didn't write The Art of War, Sun Tzu did.

 

2. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.

(An autopsy picture "leaked" onto the Internet, click here to take a look. However, this could easily be a fake picture.)

 

People seem to forget he was shot on Sept. 7th and died on Sept. 13th.

 

I don't know if there was an autopsy or not, but he went through several surgeries (one involved his lung being removed) and survived for a fairly long time in the hospital... It's not like he disappeared...

 

3. 2Pac has completed several movies and new albums and keeps on appearing on new artist's albums. (Many of the unheard songs 2Pac has completed are unreleased and not on any albums) Why would he do so much at one time??? With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash,

(Yet 2Pac had big plans for 'Makaveli Records'. This may be why he's completed so many songs. Makaveli Records is the the new record company 2Pac planned on doing with "Tha Outlaw Immortalz". He was leaving Death Row Records. Suge Knight could have killed 2Pac so they could get all the money. 2Pac's mother is currently suing Death Row Records for this money.)

 

Look at most rappers. They come out with mixtapes every 18 seconds anymore... It isn't hard to record a bunch of stuff.

 

4. In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.

 

What? Hahaha...

 

This is stupid. There is no "prophecy". It's just stuff happening. It's not even shocking stuff. It's like saying "If I eat Mexican food, I'll get sick, but then I'll feel better later" and, when I do, I must be Jesus... :rolleyes:

 

 

5. The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli, features 2Pac posed as Jesus Christ, Could he be planning a resurrection?

 

(Death Row Records probably did this for the publicity. It just adds to the whole 2Pac alive stuff which has been getting the album more sales.)

 

More random silliness...

 

6. Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

(This works both ways, The payoff city Las Vegas could be a factor in either 2Pac faking his death OR Suge Knight killing him.)

 

Can you name any other cases of public doctors in Las Vegas being paid off? Random guessing.

 

7. The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON?

 

No, they know who Simon is? :p

 

Also, is this a really old list? That album came out 2 months after he died...

 

Anyway, that ought to be enough... :p

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No.

 

Machiavelli neither did nor advocated any such thing. He also didn't write The Art of War, Sun Tzu did.

 

 

 

People seem to forget he was shot on Sept. 7th and died on Sept. 13th.

 

I don't know if there was an autopsy or not, but he went through several surgeries (one involved his lung being removed) and survived for a fairly long time in the hospital... It's not like he disappeared...

 

 

 

Look at most rappers. They come out with mixtapes every 18 seconds anymore... It isn't hard to record a bunch of stuff.

 

 

 

What? Hahaha...

 

This is stupid. There is no "prophecy". It's just stuff happening. It's not even shocking stuff. It's like saying "If I eat Mexican food, I'll get sick, but then I'll feel better later" and, when I do, I must be Jesus... :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

More random silliness...

 

 

 

Can you name any other cases of public doctors in Las Vegas being paid off? Random guessing.

 

 

 

No, they know who Simon is? :p

 

Also, is this a really old list? That album came out 2 months after he died...

 

Anyway, that ought to be enough... :p

 

/nod...

 

About Bolded: If these guys that come up with this stuff, actually bothered to "Listen" to his albums (and not just the radio played stuff), they would realise that they can find almost 90%, if not all of the same exact raps, done the same exact way, on older songs. One of his biggest hits, since he died, was actually on the B side of a older hit "Keep Your Head Up" (back when we still bought record or tape singles). I want to say the name was "I wonder If Heaven got a ghetto".

 

But he already recorded everything, and almost every single bit of it has already been released, before he died. They just take the voice track, and sync it to the new song, and "Presto".. New hit with T-Pac.

 

It's really annoying to actual fans, to here silliness like that.

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/nod...

 

About Bolded: If these guys that come up with this stuff, actually bothered to "Listen" to his albums (and not just the radio played stuff), they would realise that they can find almost 90%, if not all of the same exact raps, done the same exact way, on older songs. One of his biggest hits, since he died, was actually on the B side of a older hit "Keep Your Head Up" (back when we still bought record or tape singles). I want to say the name was "I wonder If Heaven got a ghetto".

 

But he already recorded everything, and almost every single bit of it has already been released, before he died. They just take the voice track, and sync it to the new song, and "Presto".. New hit with T-Pac.

 

It's really annoying to actual fans, to here silliness like that.

 

Wait a second are you saying that John Lennon isn't still alive? I mean they did release new music of his some twenty years after his death.:D

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The idea that Tupac has been more profitable dead than alive is literally insane. The man went from selling millions and millions of records and making films to releasing B-sides and studio cuts that would sell a tiny fraction of what records in his best years did. From a pure financial standpoint, going with all the money he made for so many people, the man is dead.

 

Also, you might wanna read up on Machiavelli. There was alot of B.S. floating around that name when Tupac died for some reason. The man was much more akin to Ben Franklin than he was Sun Tzu. He wasn't a dark prophet of death or anything like some of the rumors had said. And, unlike sun Tzu, he was not a legendary general who'd been a veteran of hundreds of battles. He was a writer and a political satirist. I think you confused his ideas on politics to Sun Tsu's theories on war. Machiavelli is largely credited with the idea that deception and subterfuge, the same ideas Sun Tzu had about war, were ever present in politics.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

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"There exists a secret society with branches throughout the world, and its plot is to spread the rumor that a universial plot exists." -from Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco.

 

Basically people make these connections because of a need for meaning to secretly exist around meaningless events. It's fun to indulge, but only children and schizophrenics take it very seriously.

 

As everyone knows, SIMON was one of the 3 chipmunks. Obviously this means that Tupac= Alvin.

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Just a note from a history buff, but Machiavelli did indeed write an Art of War. He and Sun Tzu were not the only ones to do so (though Tzu's is the oldest surviving and therefore, by default, the most influential), it's a pretty standard name to tag onto your manual about how to kill large amounts of people with ease. Other notable chaps who wrote Arts of War were one of Napoleon's standout generals (whose name escapes me - Baron something-or-other - later fought for the Russians), Sun Tzu's descendant Sun Bin, and Mao Zedong.
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The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli

 

This could explain the title of his new album, "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory."

 

The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?"

 

How many 'brand new' albums does a dead guy need? ¬_¬ Sheesh.

 

Other notable chaps who wrote Arts of War were one of Napoleon's standout generals (whose name escapes me - Baron something-or-other - later fought for the Russians)

 

Antoine-Henri Jomini. :) Didn't know he was a Baron though...

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My biggest concern about this notion is "To what end?" Why would a rapper as big as he was fake his death and let the charade go on this long? It seems like he'd have missed the spotlight and revealed the hoax by now. Maybe even done some secret recordings to release on occasion of the reveal. I get folks wanting to think he could still be alive somehow. Losing an icon is never easy. Just doesn't seem likely.
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My biggest concern about this notion is "To what end?" Why would a rapper as big as he was fake his death and let the charade go on this long? It seems like he'd have missed the spotlight and revealed the hoax by now. Maybe even done some secret recordings to release on occasion of the reveal. I get folks wanting to think he could still be alive somehow. Losing an icon is never easy. Just doesn't seem likely.

 

IF he really did fake his death he will never be coming back. It would defeat the purpose. To escape the spotlight and the shootings. If he came back so would his enemys.

 

But.. I think hes gone. Rest in peace

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I have always been very into the Tupac "Death" I've read and watched so many things on Tupac , that I decided to make a thread about it. To start off here are 20 reasons why I think Tupac is alive.

 

1. 2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?

(But that is not all Machiavelli did, Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)

 

 

 

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2. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.

(An autopsy picture "leaked" onto the Internet, click here to take a look. However, this could easily be a fake picture.)

 

 

 

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3. 2Pac has completed several movies and new albums and keeps on appearing on new artist's albums. (Many of the unheard songs 2Pac has completed are unreleased and not on any albums) Why would he do so much at one time??? With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash,

(Yet 2Pac had big plans for 'Makaveli Records'. This may be why he's completed so many songs. Makaveli Records is the the new record company 2Pac planned on doing with "Tha Outlaw Immortalz". He was leaving Death Row Records. Suge Knight could have killed 2Pac so they could get all the money. 2Pac's mother is currently suing Death Row Records for this money.)

 

 

 

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4. In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.

 

 

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5. The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli, features 2Pac posed as Jesus Christ, Could he be planning a resurrection?

 

(Death Row Records probably did this for the publicity. It just adds to the whole 2Pac alive stuff which has been getting the album more sales.)

 

 

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6. Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

(This works both ways, The payoff city Las Vegas could be a factor in either 2Pac faking his death OR Suge Knight killing him.)

 

 

 

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7. The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON?

 

 

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8. There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album, "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too, The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this?

 

 

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9. Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also that statement by 2Pac saying when he came out it would be like he was reborn. (Refer to #4)

 

 

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10. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death , 2Pac dies in that video, then a new video came out under the name "Makaveli". Its just like 2Pac died in "I Ain't Mad At Cha", and Makaveli was born in "Toss It Up". Exit 2Pac Enter: Makaveli. It all makes sense.

 

 

 

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11. In the video "Toss It Up", 2Pac is supposedly wearing some Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!!!! Also, some say in the video "Live & Die In LA" when 2Pac jumps in the car you see that he is wearing some Michael Jordan sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!

 

(If 2pac is dead, then his double is doing his new videos, So, that explains the shoes!)

 

 

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12. In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

 

 

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13. 2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time, why not?

 

(I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???)

 

 

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14. The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.

 

(This could be in the request of family or friends. It's quite possible.)

 

 

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15. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once, He was 'grazed' by a bullet, Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

 

 

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16. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found, How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

 

 

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17. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters, . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?

 

 

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18. A shooting involving Snoop canine Dogg occurred close to the release of his album CanineApproach which made Snoop appear more "real" and showed that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, CanineApproach went platinum. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

 

 

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19. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this , there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the back of the car, and then she wasn't, what's the deal for real?

 

 

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20. Have you seen the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli?? I have heard it's not 2Pac in that video. It is the look-alike from Ohio. (That's why '2Pac' never looks at the camera) The video starts out showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! You then hear garbled words and then they show 2Pac (Makaveli) up posing as Jesus Christ again! That's Twice! Once on the album & now in this video!

 

 

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