Zeel1 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Always wished that the Owner's prerequisites would be laxed for developmental deals in general. Make it so it's fine as long as it improves before they're called up, would definitely make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Nice small changes. Does locking events to a specific venue also apply for TV shows? As in having RAW take place at the Manhattan Center. Or WCW taping at the Disney MGM Studios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franticloser Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Going with the wait and see with product settings, the way Adam described them it looks like there is still room for customization that will keep things being to static. Question with workers sexuality being changeable, are their genders as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Having logos for stables is something I hadn't thought about but now am happy about seeing. Small change obviously but I appreciate being able to add more visuals like that as opposed to everything being text. And it helps make me imagine what their merchandise would actually look like. So thumbs up for that addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I was already using the presets tbh...Most mods, especially those with a lot of companies seem to set products to a basic setting and multiple companies looked the same. No one really had unique settings outside maybe a select few of companies in said mods. So because mod-makers are lazy because they have 10,000 people to add and these things take a billion years to make. I can't enjoy the system? That's the boggling thing here. You wanna make modding easier, make .mod files breakable into pieces so 10+ people can share the grunt work. Don't dumb-down systems that could just use some minor clarity tweaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Question to Adam: Hoping there is some kind of control or turn on/off for the sexuality feature, to be able to avoid too much unrealistic scenarios in RW mods. Is that, or could it be, a possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 So because mod-makers are lazy because they have 10,000 people to add and these things take a billion years to make. I can't enjoy the system? That's the boggling thing here. You wanna make modding easier, make .mod files breakable into pieces so 10+ people can share the grunt work. Don't dumb-down systems that could just use some minor clarity tweaks. I like this system because it removes generic settings. Kind of similar to when match length limits were removed. People just set the lowest match length to the number where the threshold was. Currently people mainly run a minimum of 6 min angles because of the limits. People crafted products and set the max and min levels to meet certain requirements... However I would love a system where the user can create and edit their own presets in the editor so it can still be just a selection from a drop down menu or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 That entry about sexuality change is a questionable one. Sexuality doesn't change, but then again one can be homosexual and still date/marry the opposite sex to cover up their homosexuality. Or the other way around: one has been dating the opposite sex, but finally decides to come out as being homosexual. And as far as I know, that's the only thing that sexuality does in the game: decide which gender a worker will date/marry/have kids with. So, in that sense: yes, sexuality should perhaps be changeable. If Adam wanted to go really complex, he could add gender identity (in distinction to biological sex) and everything that goes with it, but that's probably not feasible. What I'd like to know is how often these "sexuality changes" will happen in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sexuality changing is asinine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franticloser Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Well that is very phobic of you to say. People don't realize they are Gay, Straight, Bi, Lesbian, Trans, etc at birth. It can take many years to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="franticloser" data-cite="franticloser" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well that is very phobic of you to say. People don't realize they are Gay, Straight, Bi, Lesbian, Trans, etc at birth. It can take many years to figure out.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not phobic in the slightest and was the one leading the charge to remove the homophobic owner goal.</p><p> </p><p> If you're gay, you're gay. You're not going to wake up one day and go "wow, I'm straight now"</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franticloser Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 No probably not, but you can realize you are bi, or pan. And what about someone who is straight starting to find people of the same gender attractive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I wonder if you will be able to have women face men as well as have a womens division. I believe it penalized you in previous editions of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kingster" data-cite="Kingster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What I'd like to know is how often these "sexuality changes" will happen in the game.</div></blockquote><p> Basically this.</p><p> </p><p> It's a worthy addition (in my opinion) for a lot of the reasons supplied, just as long as it doesn't happen regularly. I don't believe Adam is suggesting that sexuality will just change on a whim and I don't believe that's what the feature will replicate, I think it's to reflect people "coming out of the closet".</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Question to Adam: Hoping there is some kind of control or turn on/off for the sexuality feature, to be able to avoid too much unrealistic scenarios in RW mods. Is that, or could it be, a possibility?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I second this. I will never, ever play the game with this feature as a possibility. I mean, it doesn't even have a single real life case to justify it, so its' inclusion boggles my mind. But eh, as long as I can disable it...</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I second this. I will never, ever play the game with this feature as a possibility. I mean, it doesn't even have a single real life case to justify it, so its' inclusion boggles my mind. But eh, as long as I can disable it...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It could replicate people coming out and thus being eligible for the proper relationships, but that’s about it</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Dang, didn't know we had so many homophobes and transphobes in here. It's 2019 guys, these things exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dang, didn't know we had so many homophobes and transphobes in here. It's 2019 guys, these things exist.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Literally no one is saying anything homophobic or transphobic. Stop trying to start fights.</p><p> </p><p> I can see it now, famously homophobic Ultimate Warrior changing his sexuality to gay in a playthrough. </p><p> </p><p> Really realistic.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franticloser Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <p>Just to play devil's advocate as I see where you are coming from Jaysin but I can't help it.</p><p> </p><p> Known homophobic Ultimate Warrior follows in the footsteps of many family values politicians and is caught soliciting sex at a glory hole in an airport bathroom. More news at 11</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Well, this thread sure took a turn. If an unrealistic/unwanted change were to occur, I'm sure we can just use the in-game editor to change things back to as they were. Problem solved, in my eyes. Can we move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dang, didn't know we had so many homophobes and transphobes in here. It's 2019 guys, these things exist.</div></blockquote>. I don’t think people are being phobic at all, mostly. <p> </p><p> It’s sort of being closed minded. Slightly different </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Literally no one is saying anything homophobic or transphobic. Stop trying to start fights.<p> </p><p> I can see it now, famously homophobic Ultimate Warrior changing his sexuality to gay in a playthrough. </p><p> </p><p> Really realistic.</p></div></blockquote><p> Realistic? Please tel me you don’t play games for realism....</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakesonaplane Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I assume the sexuality thing will be a variable game rule so whatever just turn it off. For people who want a more crazy game then crank up the turns! Otherwise I'd probably just leave it off, but this is really only a concern for RW data. For CV data all the workers are fictional so we can't assume to know any of their sexual preferences, so all good, just another option to add some fun and dynamism to the game world as it evolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morti Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <p>I think the sexuality thing is problematic as a queer myself, and a lot of it stems from the fact that sexuality doesn't change throughout people's life. It's like saying something or someone can turn you gay and wise versa, people figuring their sexuality out is something else, but it changing? That doesn't happen</p><p> </p><p> Basically I second everything Jaysin said</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonos mullet Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Re: sexuality change... To preface: Personally I don't give a monkey's what sexuality anyone identifies as whether they are a wrestler or not, all I'd ask is does it have any effect 'in game'? Using current TEW then changing body size affects stats, style change affects push in a promotion. Learning another language helps promos in regions with that language being spoken. Sexuality adds no plus or negatives to book around? I understand that some may want for immersion but still unsure why it's there. Austin is straight and I was a big fan but not due to him being straight. Kenny Omega may or may not be Bi, I'm a big fan. Darren Young is gay, and I'm not a fan not do I actively dislike him but only as he was cookie cutter due to WWE system at the time. If he 'turned straight' or was straight 'from birth' he'd still be bland and I'd want my immersion of him in a mod to come from setting competent, if very unspectacular, stats. Add it, don't add it. Either way is cool but, unless it does have a purpose, then is it even needed? I've never searched for a wrestler in game looking for sexuality preference lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratusfaction Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MortiSporti" data-cite="MortiSporti" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think the sexuality thing is problematic as a queer myself, and a lot of it stems from the fact that sexuality doesn't change throughout people's life. It's like saying something or someone can turn you gay and wise versa, people figuring their sexuality out is something else, but it changing? That doesn't happen<p> </p><p> Basically I second everything Jaysin said</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I find it problematic too as a gay man. I'm not sure I like sexuality to be based on a games random algorithms. I really hope we can turn this feature off. I honestly don't even see a point of having this kind of feature? Was this something that people were requesting?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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