The SWF Thread

[gazdaman]

Just wondering if it’s worth try to run swf as a inter gender promotion and if so who should I look at signing

[Jon The GOAT]

Eric Eisen is The Miz of this game, I swear.

 

He can be really good if you stick with him.

 

This is true. Believe in Easy E.

[Sco xY2Jx]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eric Eisen is The Miz of this game, I swear. <p> </p><p> He can be really good if you stick with him.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with this, 100%. Especially using the re-render I've got of him. He's currently the World Champ on the Supreme Brand after dethroning Jack Bruce. Biggest downside is he and Jack have poor chemistry.</p><p> He leads a stable including Emma Chase, Remo, Marat Khoklov, Primus Allen & Hellion and is absolute gold on the mic. I've only just entered 2017 but Eric Eisen has been phenomenal for me, 90 popularity across North America since May (8 months now). He can't break into the top 5 in franchise players list (probably due to his SQ) but, yeah, don't sleep on Eisen! Best heel I've got, and that's including Tommy Cornell on the Thunder brand.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sco xY2Jx" data-cite="Sco xY2Jx" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with this, 100%. Especially using the re-render I've got of him. He's currently the World Champ on the Supreme Brand after dethroning Jack Bruce. Biggest downside is he and Jack have poor chemistry.<p> He leads a stable including Emma Chase, Remo, Marat Khoklov, Primus Allen & Hellion and is absolute gold on the mic. I've only just entered 2017 but Eric Eisen has been phenomenal for me, 90 popularity across North America for the since May (8 months now). He can't break into the top 5 in franchise players list (probably due to his SQ) but, yeah, don't sleep on Eisen! Best heel I've got, including Tommy Cornell.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Some people like to say there's no right way to play TEW, but you're playing the game the right way.</p>

[DatIsraeliGuy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sco xY2Jx" data-cite="Sco xY2Jx" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with this, 100%. Especially using the re-render I've got of him. He's currently the World Champ on the Supreme Brand after dethroning Jack Bruce. Biggest downside is he and Jack have poor chemistry.<p> He leads a stable including Emma Chase, Remo, Marat Khoklov, Primus Allen & Hellion and is absolute gold on the mic. I've only just entered 2017 but Eric Eisen has been phenomenal for me, 90 popularity across North America for the since May (8 months now). He can't break into the top 5 in franchise players list (probably due to his SQ) but, yeah, don't sleep on Eisen! Best heel I've got, including Tommy Cornell.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What re render? I must know</p>

[Sco xY2Jx]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What re render? I must know</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Unfortunately, I can't remember who the re-renderer was, unfortunately. Possibly a Shipshirt? All the work those guys do over there is awesome. </p><p> They basically own my C-Verse now with all the re-renders.</p><p> </p><p> Here's the Eisen I've got. Basically a cross between Miz and Jericho for me.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="lBZP8sP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/lBZP8sP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Dropkick]

<p>I agree with the pro-Eisen calls. I can't just discard him and there have been times when he has developed significantly.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyone else think that maybe in CVerse canon Eisen's world title reign has to do with SWF's fall from grace, from being top dog to battling it out with TCW and USPW? If you look at the title history, he doesnt regain the belt, nor does he have a Nth American title reign since that World title in '10. It would seem to suggest it wasnt successful and that maybe nepotism drove the fans away?</p><p> </p><p>

Regardless, my lone attempt at a swf game this time around has him leading a midcard Supremacy stable consisting of him, Emma C, Bret Starr and Primus Allen. But, as I said, he's certainly relevant and no throw-away worker either.</p>

[Matt_Black]

<p>I also have gotten back into SWF. My biggest problem is roster bloat, with all the RIPW talent that wants to come up. As such, I don't aggressively negotiate with some of the roster. Squeaky McClean, Frederique, and the Pain Alliance all signed with other companies, because I will NOT get into a big bidding war for a guy named Squeaky McClean. Also, let Skull DeBones walk when his contract was up. Time Decline and a guy who can only wrestle events? Pass.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, we're in August 2016, I've got my own network with Big coverage across the U.S. for Uprising (B show) and RIPW and the New Babes of Sin City. Speaking of, I'm about to start the SWF Women's division. Poached Brooke Tyler and Lora Washington from their companies and signed J-Ro, Brazzle, Wade, Blake, Ammis, and one other babyface (maybe Jaime Quine? Can't remember.)</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dropkick" data-cite="Dropkick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with the pro-Eisen calls. I can't just discard him and there have been times when he has developed significantly.<p> </p><p> Anyone else think that maybe in CVerse canon Eisen's world title reign has to do with SWF's fall from grace, from being top dog to battling it out with TCW and USPW? If you look at the title history, he doesnt regain the belt, nor does he have a Nth American title reign since that World title in '10. It would seem to suggest it wasnt successful and that maybe nepotism drove the fans away?</p><p> </p><p> Regardless, my lone attempt at a swf game this time around has him leading a midcard Supremacy stable consisting of him, Emma C, Bret Starr and Primus Allen. But, as I said, he's certainly relevant and no throw-away worker either.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It seems thats the reason guys like Frehley & Money left but to be honest, I would've preferred a title history more like say, Roman Reigns, to justify the nepotist argument. Reigns is a 3X World, 1X IC/US/Tag, Rumble winner, countless of the meaningless slammies. Would've liked seeing that for Eric. Have him put himself over the way a Jarrett would. His title reign alone doesn't really justify the nepotist argument for me. Alternatively, have it be that Eisen's been main eventing PPVs despite not having the belt.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<p><img alt="5ce1e994cacd56a1b784cab100884898.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/5ce1e994cacd56a1b784cab100884898.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Probably the first sports entertainment PPV I've ever booked. Switch the product to the default Attitude Entertainment one with some minor alterations. Lower Hardcore to Low so I wouldn't have to deal with changing all the matches to having Average Risk, and lowered Comedy down to Medium so I wouldn't have to deal with having to force Comedy matches on the card. It also helped us with some sponsorship going from quite tough to favorable. The only other change I've done is taking off Face/Heel divide and removed the Strict Storylines, maybe eventually I'll enjoy micromanaging that stuff but I'm not a big fan of maintaining either. Plus its Attitude Era, everyones turning every other week B)</p><p> </p><p>

Mr. Supreme went to rehab day one. I signed a bunch of ladies for ratio (Catherine Quine, Grace Harper, Karen Killer, Lady Melissa, Ashley Murphy, Dream Girl, Emma Chase, Scarah). Scarah got busted for drugs and sent to rehab almost immediately. Emma Chase got saddled as Sam Keith's new secretary. Maria had bad chem with Adonis so I put her on Eric who Adonis was having a mini feud with she also had bad chem with so she ended up being spotted flirting with Cornell and they don't have bad chem so hurrah. Grace Harper was on Cornell but bad chem so she ended up swapping with Maria but also had bad chem with Eric. Gods damn it, Eric. </p><p> </p><p>

Dev wise didn't go overboard but brought in Vengeance, Rich Money, Big Cat Brandon, Puerto Rican Power, Steve/Jack/Alex DeColt, Joey Poison & Rogue, The Crippler, Christopher Hart, Collosus, Genghis Rahn, Jimmy Cox, Johnny Martin, Jungle Jack, The Natural and Tim Westybrook. Richard Eisen won't let me sign Jack Bruce because he works for a cult-sized company per owner goals. Damn.</p><p> </p><p>

Professor Nero in to commentate. </p><p> </p><p>

So far I'm mostly winging it which has been pretty fun. Some guys go unused that way which sucks but I'm trying to let this be pretty smooth sailings without too much maintenance and note taking the way I tend to do for other companies. </p><p> </p><p>

My sole goals are currently to turn Eric Eisen and Richard Eisen into great talkers and to not let my young guys become egomaniacs. I've actually allowed the Dirty Doctor to stay on and until we have a scandal or its 2002 and I decide to move onto a pseudo-Ruthless Aggression period, it'll stay on. </p><p> </p><p>

McFly got injured for a short time so no PPV match for him, he was supposed to face Rory. </p><p> </p><p>

PPV wise:</p><p> </p><p>

Eric Eisen calling Gold Alliance bullies and flirting with Maria got them their ire. Barstow & Pierce helped him out to get on Richard's good side but Richard was too pissed off with Nemesis situation to give Barstow & Pierce a title match so now they hate Eric. Eric's an early Kurt Angle type. Earnest, and hard working, and a goof ball. I don't care about Gold Alliance till Mr. Supreme is back.</p><p> </p><p>

Rory beats Eden after Eden came to injured McFly's defense and also beat Danny. Not much to this one.</p><p> </p><p>

Faith beat Bruce The Giant in a buried alive match. I don't want to saddle Bruce with the generic Big Show gimmick and I watched Infinity War recently so he's pretty much turning into Thanos lmfao. I know Vengeance is the defacto Taker character but I'm leaning Vengeance towards Mick Foley's many faces type of shtick. On the flipside, Faith's got a date with Keith. Oh, they had bad chem ;(</p><p> </p><p>

Perfect Storm beat Patriots. Masked Patriot turned on Captain USA post-match. USA is on his way out with a nearby contract expiry. Patriot going the way of Sean O'Haire Devil's Advocate gimmick, representing the 'true face of merica'. </p><p> </p><p>

Bailey wins the six way match for the NA title. Everyone took out Nemesis. Nemesis had the tainted loss, protect, and keep strong not to lose lmfao. Bailey is probably gonna have to deal with Sid Streets for a while.</p><p> </p><p>

Sam Keith beats Sid Streets when injured Big Easy turns on Sid Streets. Keith escapes once again. </p><p> </p><p>

Nothing to Lose is up next~</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eric Eisen is The Miz of this game, I swear. <p> </p><p> He can be really good if you stick with him.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The Miz is actually a pretty slick comparison for Eric Eisen. And rather similar to how I would likely use Double E. At least Miz over the past few years, not the "headlining WM' short-term version. </p><p> </p><p> Eisen is a solid in-ring talent, with pretty good popularity. That means he should be able to pull half decent grades. He could get better, but I won't bank on it. That makes him a pretty solid upper mid type. His lineage and gimmick make for a very easy character to book around. </p><p> </p><p> I might be more possible to keep him closer to the very top of the card and around the world title if it wasn't for the negative personality and the creative control. Its a combo that annoys me.</p>

[lghikas]

I'm going to jump on the Eisen bandwagon here as well...along with that render....until I finally let him go dude was probably my best talker in the company. If I wasn't terrible at always having a Large roster I would have kept him.

[Bigpapa42]

so ran a test soak watcher just for fun. Reached 2020. SWF are still behind USPW and ahead of TCW. Remo won the 2018 Wrestler of the year.... for SOTBPW. Jack Bruce is still amazing and won Veteran Wrestler of the Year in 2018 and 2019... for SOTBPW. The top star for the SWF is now... Frederique Antonio Garcia. And legit - he's up to like B+ or A popularity.

 

USPW's top of the card is 85% TCW guys. Note even exaggerating. It legit looks like the upper card from TCW for 2016 just had a couple USPW guys added.

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>so ran a test soak watcher just for fun. Reached 2020. SWF are still behind USPW and ahead of TCW. Remo won the 2018 Wrestler of the year.... for SOTBPW. Jack Bruce is still amazing and won Veteran Wrestler of the Year in 2018 and 2019... for SOTBPW. The top star for the SWF is now... Frederique Antonio Garcia. And legit - he's up to like B+ or A popularity. <p> </p><p> USPW's top of the card is 85% TCW guys. Note even exaggerating. It legit looks like the upper card from TCW for 2016 just had a couple USPW guys added.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> SOTBPW stealing SWF guys and USPW/SWF feeding on TCW guys is pretty typical. I think Remo is almost 100% guaranteed to end up in SOTBPW. Guys going from TCW to SWF/USPW tends to depend on whose cult at any given time. </p><p> </p><p> Though maybe I'm using too much anecdotal evidence.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Probably the first sports entertainment PPV I've ever booked. Switch the product to the default Attitude Entertainment one with some minor alterations. Lower Hardcore to Low so I wouldn't have to deal with changing all the matches to having Average Risk, and lowered Comedy down to Medium so I wouldn't have to deal with having to force Comedy matches on the card. It also helped us with some sponsorship going from quite tough to favorable. The only other change I've done is taking off Face/Heel divide and removed the Strict Storylines, maybe eventually I'll enjoy micromanaging that stuff but I'm not a big fan of maintaining either. Plus its Attitude Era, everyones turning every other week B)<p> </p><p> <snip></p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Meant to reply to this yesterday. Nice work. Like I've said a few times, once you get a good handle on how to roll with Sports Entertainment, its awfully fun to book a good sized company with adequate talent and popularity. You can use those angles to carry things and that gives a lot more freedom in booking the actual matches. </p><p> </p><p> I've never had an SWF (or Hollyweird) save last very long in the CV97 mod, which is an awful shame. But I get too caught up in trying to load up on all the guys who develop into stars in Cverse canon, rather than letting things evolve more naturally. Maybe I'll give SWF 97 a shot after a 2016 SWF save. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>SOTBPW stealing SWF guys and USPW/SWF feeding on TCW guys is pretty typical. I think Remo is almost 100% guaranteed to end up in SOTBPW. Guys going from TCW to SWF/USPW tends to depend on whose cult at any given time. <p> </p><p> Though maybe I'm using too much anecdotal evidence.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No, that's pretty much how it always plays out. SOTBPW poaches the stars heavily from everyone, USPW and the SWF poach a bit from each other, and both of them raid TCW. The nice thing about that sequence is that TCW and the SWF are forced to build new stars moreso than they have in the past. Garcia was a first in this save - and really cool to see - and Mainstream Hernandez is at B+ popularity for Supreme. TCW turned Davis Wayne Newton into a star. The fact that 8 of the most popular workers on the USPW roster are former TCW guys isn't unique - just more the sheer volume that is a bit surprising. The timing of things varies a bit save to save because when contracts come up will vary in each save.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Meant to reply to this yesterday. Nice work. Like I've said a few times, once you get a good handle on how to roll with Sports Entertainment, its awfully fun to book a good sized company with adequate talent and popularity. You can use those angles to carry things and that gives a lot more freedom in booking the actual matches. <p> </p><p> I've never had an SWF (or Hollyweird) save last very long in the CV97 mod, which is an awful shame. But I get too caught up in trying to load up on all the guys who develop into stars in Cverse canon, rather than letting things evolve more naturally. Maybe I'll give SWF 97 a shot after a 2016 SWF save. </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think my sole advantage in that regard is I hate having guys on the roster that aren't doing anything and I don't like mass releasing guys either so I tend to stick with the roster until contracts run out and space is made. I've already brought the roster down to the minimum of 32. Still feels a bit too big for me. But yeah, I've definitely fallen in love with sports entertainment products now. Not knowing present day SWF cannon too much might help too.</p><p> </p><p> Also, man, Phillip Roberts is nearly as good as Sean McFly, possibly better, to start. Desperate to find something good for him to start moving up the roster next to Eric & Tommy. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No, that's pretty much how it always plays out. SOTBPW poaches the stars heavily from everyone, USPW and the SWF poach a bit from each other, and both of them raid TCW. The nice thing about that sequence is that TCW and the SWF are forced to build new stars moreso than they have in the past. Garcia was a first in this save - and really cool to see - and Mainstream Hernandez is at B+ popularity for Supreme. TCW turned Davis Wayne Newton into a star. The fact that 8 of the most popular workers on the USPW roster are former TCW guys isn't unique - just more the sheer volume that is a bit surprising. The timing of things varies a bit save to save because when contracts come up will vary in each save.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mainstream Hernandez became HUGE in my save. SWF has a lot of young talent that they pretty much don't do anything with. Scythe, Spade, Allen, Hawaiian, Wright all went free in mine. TCW haven't really turned anyone young into significant stars. They turned to Guide & Scout for a significant time, have relied on Dubois and Speed I guess. Anyone they build even remotely to around high 60s pop tends to get stolen by SWF/USPW when their contract goes out. Or TCW lets them go if they're way too deep into time decline. Maybe in 2025 TCW will have developped their youth in mine ;(</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think my sole advantage in that regard is I hate having guys on the roster that aren't doing anything and I don't like mass releasing guys either so I tend to stick with the roster until contracts run out and space is made. I've already brought the roster down to the minimum of 32. Still feels a bit too big for me. But yeah, I've definitely fallen in love with sports entertainment products now. Not knowing present day SWF cannon too much might help too.<p> </p><p> Also, man, Phillip Roberts is nearly as good as Sean McFly, possibly better, to start. Desperate to find something good for him to start moving up the roster next to Eric & Tommy. </p><p> </p><p> Mainstream Hernandez became HUGE in my save. SWF has a lot of young talent that they pretty much don't do anything with. Scythe, Spade, Allen, Hawaiian, Wright all went free in mine. TCW haven't really turned anyone young into significant stars. They turned to Guide & Scout for a significant time, have relied on Dubois and Speed I guess. Anyone they build even remotely to around high 60s pop tends to get stolen by SWF/USPW when their contract goes out. Or TCW lets them go if they're way too deep into time decline. Maybe in 2025 TCW will have developped their youth in mine ;(</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For me, its not just SWF canon. its all the Cverse stuff that happens with the growth of TCW, the East Coast Wars, etc. Its a rich history and altering it is part of the appeal, but its trying not to alter things too much. Or have things happen too early. I run into the same issue in real world historical mods, where I want to use workers with gimmicks that wouldn't really be valid for several years, etc. </p><p> </p><p> Roberts is monstrously good. There is a reason he had such a long Supreme career. Just never developed those entertainment skills much. Could be a good pairing with a strong manager who can do the talking. </p><p> </p><p> Those cuts tend to happen in most saves, too. Spencer Spade is at TCW and close to headlining in that test save. </p><p> </p><p> BTW instead of starting up the new SWF save while watching Raw tonight, I'll probably be poking around the 97 mod. That is your fault, Jon.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For me, its not just SWF canon. its all the Cverse stuff that happens with the growth of TCW, the East Coast Wars, etc. Its a rich history and altering it is part of the appeal, but its trying not to alter things too much. Or have things happen too early. I run into the same issue in real world historical mods, where I want to use workers with gimmicks that wouldn't really be valid for several years, etc. <p> </p><p> Roberts is monstrously good. There is a reason he had such a long Supreme career. Just never developed those entertainment skills much. Could be a good pairing with a strong manager who can do the talking. </p><p> </p><p> Those cuts tend to happen in most saves, too. Spencer Spade is at TCW and close to headlining in that test save. </p><p> </p><p> BTW instead of starting up the new SWF save while watching Raw tonight, I'll probably be poking around the 97 mod. That is your fault, Jon.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Now you've got a chance to give Eric Eisen the career he deserved with multiple World title reigns - if you head in the SWF direction.</p>

[Poet Justice]

<p>SWF's biggest competition isn't USPW or TCW, it's SOTBPW. It's a really one-sided ordeal too, with their ability to poach almost all of your top stars while theirs are basically untouchable unless you're international or you are the owner and overpay their guys.</p><p> </p><p>

TCW is honestly more of a service for SWF than anything. They build up good in-ring workers for you to poach. USPW's usually self-destructs with its bad booking. But SOTBPW books highly rated matches, re-signs almost all of its talent without resistance and poaches half of the biggest stars in the US and basically anyone notable in OLLIE, EMLL and CILL. </p><p> </p><p>

I found the only way to deal with them are through national battles. If you add on guys like Marat and Rocky and retain Bruce and Remo, you should have enough to beat them handily, and push them to cult. Also, building young stars that can't work in Mexico is really handy in not having to worry about SOTBPW.</p>

[Matt_Black]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Poet Justice" data-cite="Poet Justice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>SWF's biggest competition isn't USPW or TCW, it's SOTBPW. It's a really one-sided ordeal too, with their ability to poach almost all of your top stars while theirs are basically untouchable unless you're international or you are the owner and overpay their guys.<p> </p><p> TCW is honestly more of a service for SWF than anything. They build up good in-ring workers for you to poach. USPW's usually self-destructs with its bad booking. But SOTBPW books highly rated matches, re-signs almost all of its talent without resistance and poaches half of the biggest stars in the US and basically anyone notable in OLLIE, EMLL and CILL. </p><p> </p><p> I found the only way to deal with them are through national battles. If you add on guys like Marat and Rocky and retain Bruce and Remo, you should have enough to beat them handily, and push them to cult. Also, building young stars that can't work in Mexico is really handy in not having to worry about SOTBPW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Another idea- start a working agreement with OLLIE and feed them money and over superstars, maybe get them so they're a credible threat to SOTBPW.</p>

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Poet Justice" data-cite="Poet Justice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>SWF's biggest competition isn't USPW or TCW, it's SOTBPW. It's a really one-sided ordeal too, with their ability to poach almost all of your top stars while theirs are basically untouchable unless you're international or you are the owner and overpay their guys.<p> </p><p> TCW is honestly more of a service for SWF than anything. They build up good in-ring workers for you to poach. USPW's usually self-destructs with its bad booking. But SOTBPW books highly rated matches, re-signs almost all of its talent without resistance and poaches half of the biggest stars in the US and basically anyone notable in OLLIE, EMLL and CILL. </p><p> </p><p> I found the only way to deal with them are through national battles. If you add on guys like Marat and Rocky and retain Bruce and Remo, you should have enough to beat them handily, and push them to cult. Also, building young stars that can't work in Mexico is really handy in not having to worry about SOTBPW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How else are you supposed to deal with national competition other than national battles? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[d12345]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Poet Justice" data-cite="Poet Justice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>SWF's biggest competition isn't USPW or TCW, it's SOTBPW. It's a really one-sided ordeal too, with their ability to poach almost all of your top stars while theirs are basically untouchable unless you're international or you are the owner and overpay their guys.<p> </p><p> TCW is honestly more of a service for SWF than anything. They build up good in-ring workers for you to poach. USPW's usually self-destructs with its bad booking. But SOTBPW books highly rated matches, re-signs almost all of its talent without resistance and poaches half of the biggest stars in the US and basically anyone notable in OLLIE, EMLL and CILL. </p><p> </p><p> I found the only way to deal with them are through national battles. If you add on guys like Marat and Rocky and retain Bruce and Remo, you should have enough to beat them handily, and push them to cult. Also, building young stars that can't work in Mexico is really handy in not having to worry about SOTBPW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 2 words. Champagne Lover. Steal him and 50% of your problems with them go away. Also don't let them steal away any high SQ guys and you're good.</p>

[Poet Justice]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>2 words. Champagne Lover. Steal him and 50% of your problems with them go away. Also don't let them steal away any high SQ guys and you're good.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't been able to poach Chanpagne Lover yet. They usually will outbid you no matter how much you spend. The best chance to get him is to hope he gets into a scandal</p>

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I haven't been able to poach Chanpagne Lover yet. They usually will outbid you no matter how much you spend. The best chance to get him is to hope he gets into a scandal

 

You have to give him the farm if you want him (Well as much of it as Eisen will let you).

 

I know he won't let you wage match or Hiring Veto but you can offer Creative Ctrl.

 

Promise to push him as no lower than main eventer. Use as an Icon. Exclusively In-Ring. A-Shows and Events (or just events if the heat is on). Get rid of the non-compete clause. Travel Cover. Then obviously max out money and bonuses as much as you can.

 

Basically if you give him ALL the power in lieu of money, you can get him or really anyone you want.

[Jaysin]

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Trying to do a year as SWF and this is my first PPV. Thought it was dumb a PPV called Let the Games Begin was near the end of the year so moved it to January and put Halloween Havoc in October.</p><p> </p><p>

Jack Bruce defeated Crippler to end their feud and Eddie Peak debuted right after the match destroying Bruce. </p><p> </p><p>

Antonio Maxi Marquez is Champagne Lover and for some reason I wanted him to feud with Spade. Didn't want Spade losing clean, so Primus interfered and is pairing himself up with Spencer. Streetz is Primus's manager. After the match Streetz yelled out instructions as Primus beat the snot out of Antonio. </p><p> </p><p>

Marshall Dillon & American Machine won a throwaway match because everyone got mad when I wanted Frankie and Mikey to win.</p><p> </p><p>

Brandon James beat Valiant after doing the Big Money Move off the stage. Valiant is going to take a little time off.</p><p> </p><p>

El Critico and Reaver vs Gino Montero and Emerald Angel was just a match to get my cruisers on the show as I build them up a bit before debuting the Cruisweight title. Gino and Angel have chemistry as partners, so might go back to that later.</p><p> </p><p>

Skull DeBones and Robbie Retro vs Marat and Joe Sexy, another throwaway match.</p><p> </p><p>

Primus destroyed Greg Black in the match and then in the post match.</p><p> </p><p>

Akima Brave and Toma redebuted by getting a shock win over the Pain Alliance and then took the tag belts off the Awesomeness.</p><p> </p><p>

Joey Morgan cleanly took care of Paul. Probably letting Paul go.</p><p> </p><p>

I wanted to keep the belt on Remo a little longer, but I want Peak to take the belt after Gilmore and since I'm using Jack Bruce in a Cena like role where he just has great matches with people from all over the planet, I decided after Eddie takes care of Bruce he's going after Gilmore.</p>