Rick Arnold Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Martin Ruane (Giant Haystacks) has always been in the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Weden Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Adrian Adonis is in as well right? My grandad said he saw him all the time in the 80's... Funny Weden Trivia: My grandad knows Andre the Giant but has never heard of Hulk Hogan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightnick Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Adonis is in. And... that... makes me laugh about your Grandad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 There's an old man in my neighborhood that has pictures of him on his walls wrestling Superstar Billy Graham and Maddog Vachon. His name is Mr Doner and he said he wrestled all the stars but never won. He didn't use the word jobber, so I didn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Weden Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 What was his wrestling name (Johnny)? And is he American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I think he went by his real name, he had no gimmick. And he's Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Arnold Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Would it be Ron Doner? Former Canadian wrestler and friend of Whipper Billy Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Heres a few English wrestlers i can think of: Brian Glover Brian 'Goldbelt' Maxine Mick McManus Les Kellett Dru McDonald Dave'Fit'Finley Danny'Boy'Collins Robbie Brookside(debut 84). Chic Cullen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Yeah, that's it, Rick. There's a Catholic Elementry School called WJ Watson around here, and it's named after Whipper Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightnick Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Scotty.... Fit Finlay is already in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 yeah, duh... i realised and thought i took it out but didnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 For anyone interested, the first post in this thread will contain whatever changes are upcoming in the next update. Thanks for the information guys; much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iujim1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Quick Question, I have been playing as the great Leon White aka Big Van Vadar. His starting contract was, I believe, 7,000 per appearance by AWA. Was that right? When it ran up they offered me a written contract at 6,000 a month as an Upper Midcarder. So, I'm wondering what type of system was used to make these. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 The initial salaries are purely based on initial stats and assigned by the AI at the games start. White, being pretty talented and reasonably known in the various areas, starts off at that $6000/PPA. Granted, Verne Gagne wouldn't pay that in a million years - nor was White at the top of the card at this point, but there isn't much we can do about it. I would like to have the initial salaries setup in the editor, as TEW had it, just to better gauge them. But, we have what we have. The Written contract offered to you was a combination of several things, I would imagine. Again, though, it is all the AI's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iujim1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Sweet. I didn't understand the inner working of how the contracts were handled. Thanks for answering that for me. I have finally gotten White up to fighting at the near main event level. I have been having some battles with the great Baron and hoping for a sweet alignment turn soon to battle it out with the second greatest wrestler of all-time, Nick Bockwinkle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 Nick Bockwinkel is the greatest wrestler of all-time. Good luck getting White up to the point where Bock wipes the floor with him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Bock wiped the floor with me on more than one occaision. Then again, I just lost to Tito Santana twice in a week. I have this bad habit of hitting a finisher, and then going for another one instead of a pin. Then I try to use my Spirit, and I get pinned anyway. Damn Santana and his flying Jalepeno! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iujim1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 D.Boon, As much as I love Nick and everything that was the AWA. I can't help but still find an even stronger place for Flair. Technically, Nick was probably a better pure wrestler, but wasn't close to being the showman that Flair is/was. So, I have to give the nod to the Nature Boy, but much love for Bockwinkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 It's kind of like the Butter Battle Book, iujim1; comparing the two. I would take any of the Lawler v. Bockwinkel matches over Steamboat v. Flair any day of the week and twice on Saturdays. Bock wasn't the outright showman that the Nature Boy was/is (who is?), but he was superb in his own right. As much of a fan of the AWA as I am, I do believe that the quality of Flair's average opponent was much much better than that of Bockwinkel's. Not to take anything away from Flair, mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iujim1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Man, I may have to take back all the great things I have said about you in the past. :-) I have never been a big fan of Lawler, but maybe that is just me. The stuff with Kaufman was great, but his dodging of Savage is something I will always remember. I think even Dr. Seuss would have been able to realize that wrestling Baron, Gagne, Hansen, Wahoo, and Rich would be much better opponent wise than Ronnie Garvin, Road Warrior Hawk, and Nikita Koloff. What do I know though? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Bock was awesome, Boon. And the average of Flair's opponents were better than Bock's. But the worst of Flair's opponents that he actually carried to good matches (An ULTRA green Lex Luger, or Road Warrior Hawk) I think turned out better than alot of Bockwinkel's. I love Bock. But he's no Nature Boy. Oh yeah, and I love Jerry Lawler as well. And to the man that posted before me, you're comparing the best of Bockwinkel's to the worst of Flairs. Harley Race? Ricky Steamboat? Bockwinkel had to wrestle with some stinkers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 I think even Dr. Seuss would have been able to realize that wrestling Baron, Gagne, Hansen, Wahoo, and Rich would be much better opponent wise than Ronnie Garvin, Road Warrior Hawk, and Nikita Koloff. What do I know though? :-) Would that be Greg, or Verne? Seriously, I like Flair - but I'm a Bockwinkel fan. It's apples and oranges; relative to time periods and locations. Your comments on the opponents is rather misleading, though. You have Bockwinkel covering 10 years (Verne to Hansen)? Flair's opponents listed covers 3. Were we to line their schedules up from 81-84, I am certain that Flair would have a much more impressive listing of opponents than Bockwinkel would. That's not to slag Greg Gagne or Hulk Hogan or anyone else Bockwinkel might have faced - nor is it saying that Scott McGee or George South or any other midcarder that Flair may have faced were quasi-deities - nor is it saying that either men carried more scrubs than the other. But come on... Steamboat, Rhodes, Race, Wahoo, the Funks, the Von Erichs, Brody, Baba, Colon, the Briscos - the list of 'A' talent would be endless on Flair's side. Of course it would, he was World Champ of a much bigger territorial blanket than Bockwinkel ever was. Anyway - I always root for the underdog. Name me anyone under the age of 40 that thinks Bockwinkel is better than Flair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_McSluggz Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 How old is Dave Meltzer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightnick Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 My cousin thinks Bockwinkel is better than Flair. He's 24. So, there's a under 40 person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iujim1 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I"m curious how your cousin knows of Bockwinkel. :-) Seriously though, I love the spirit debated about two of the real legends of the business. None of this, Austin or Foley or even HHH garbage. It is nice to chat with people that remember what wrestling truly is. Not what the McMahon's want us to think it is. Kudos to everyone. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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