Cornellverse '08?

[Irish Wolf]

The first thing I looked at was who debuted up untill June 2008. Now think all of those people are going to be started in the new game. Where are they going to be and how is there presence going to change the landscape of the Cornellverse.

[Derek B]

Just so you know, the database isn't decided yet so I've got no info on what will actually happen. Which is why I'm throwing some ideas out there :) - Having thought about it more... I want to see DAVE die completely. This would then leave a bunch of workers to go many different ways, allowing for the expansion of CZCW with guys like Acid, Elemental III and Bulldozer Brandon Smith leading the way. - Elemental III (or American Elemental as he's currently known) becomes a big name in Japan as he is picked as the successor for the gimmick. His fame also allows him to play a major role in CZCW's expansion to fill the void left behind by DAVE. - Chris Caulfield starts his own hardcore promotion since Phil Vibert no longer has the finances to run his own. Vibert probably books it but the promotion is small and just a shell of DAVE's former glory. - Puerto Rico gets it's own promotion headed up by Shawn Gonzalez. PRP, The Latino Kings and Kashmir Singh obviously head there. - USPW continue as the #3 promotion in the US. Nicky Champion is being groomed to be a big star for them and (on screen) is dating Alicia Strong, the star of the new women's division. USPW are likely to lose a few big names to retirement so a fresh batch of young workers seems likely... probably including Gargantuan. :) - INSPIRE suffer... horribly. I just don't like them. - 21CW continue to grow and Philip Cooper's hats become the biggest selling merchandise in the world. Cooper also happens to start developing in the ring and seems set to become a star. He might even be interested in taking jobs from other countries... - TCW aka Tommy Cornell Wrestling remain as #2 to the SWF. I don't really know what I want them to do, but I can see them bringing in someone like a Rolling Johnny Stones to make things more exciting in the midcard. - NOTBPW... they continue to put on great wrestling shows but be unable to appeal to the US market. So instead, they try to break out to the UK and get ROF as their development promotion. Wigan Style 4 Life!

[Clarity]

[QUOTE=derek_b;349397]Just so you know, the database isn't decided yet so I've got no info on what will actually happen. Which is why I'm throwing some ideas out there :) - Having thought about it more... I want to see DAVE die completely. This would then leave a bunch of workers to go many different ways, allowing for the expansion of CZCW with guys like Acid, Elemental III and Bulldozer Brandon Smith leading the way. - Elemental III (or American Elemental as he's currently known) becomes a big name in Japan as he is picked as the successor for the gimmick. His fame also allows him to play a major role in CZCW's expansion to fill the void left behind by DAVE. - Chris Caulfield starts his own hardcore promotion since Phil Vibert no longer has the finances to run his own. Vibert probably books it but the promotion is small and just a shell of DAVE's former glory. - Puerto Rico gets it's own promotion headed up by Shawn Gonzalez. PRP, The Latino Kings and Kashmir Singh obviously head there. - USPW continue as the #3 promotion in the US. Nicky Champion is being groomed to be a big star for them and (on screen) is dating Alicia Strong, the star of the new women's division. USPW are likely to lose a few big names to retirement so a fresh batch of young workers seems likely... probably including Gargantuan. :) - INSPIRE suffer... horribly. I just don't like them. - 21CW continue to grow and Philip Cooper's hats become the biggest selling merchandise in the world. Cooper also happens to start developing in the ring and seems set to become a star. He might even be interested in taking jobs from other countries... - TCW aka Tommy Cornell Wrestling remain as #2 to the SWF. I don't really know what I want them to do, but I can see them bringing in someone like a Rolling Johnny Stones to make things more exciting in the midcard. - NOTBPW... they continue to put on great wrestling shows but be unable to appeal to the US market. [B]So instead, they try to break out to the UK and get ROF as their development promotion. Wigan Style 4 Life![/B][/QUOTE]Thats something i can see. Instead of going under, the turn developmental

[shamelessposer]

A lot of these ideas were going to be in my own Cornellverse 2008 mod, and if any of them find their way into the official data I'd be very, very pleased. -American Elemental becomes Elemental III. By the end of 2008 American Elemental II, a woman, appears on the independent scene. -Hell's Bouncer makes a proper in-ring debut, and turns out to be a surprisingly decent wrestler (at the very least he's better than his 2007 stats would suggest). He's a reliable midcard worker with a great look, and probably ends up being DAVE's equivalent to WWF's (mid-2001)Test. -White Samurai continued making appearances in MAW after his good showing in the 2007 Rip Chord Invitational. He has yet to win a title but has definitely won over a lot of fans, in particular with his stunning best-of-seven series against Mainstream Hernandez. -NOTBPW dropped their women's division, and Victoria left the company in protest to found the Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation. Sean McFly no longer had marital ties to the promotion, and became one of the biggest wrestling stories of the year when he left NOTBPW to sign with PGHW. -Texas Pete quickly made enemies in TCW and was gone by the end of the summer. He then made a surprise appearance in USPW, where he was immediately inserted into the main event scene. -USPW has jumped up to a comfortable Cult position, and signed many of their top workers to written contracts. This came about when a new national television network was looking for wrestling programming and got scared off by promotional material from DAVE, so they fled in the opposite direction and ended up with USPW instead. -DAVE is hurting. Most of their bigger stars have been signed away, to the point that the Latino Kings are positioned as solid midcarders. -Alex Braun left DAVE after one too many of his paychecks bounced, and ended up taking a position as head booker of a European wrestling promotion. This promotion has risen to prominence (maybe a Regional position?) through Braun's solid booking and gradual shift to a more hardcore style. -Big Smack Scott? SWF champion. -Fumihiro Ota and Silver Shark join SWF as part of the Shooting Star division. Deano Machino and Brett Biggz join TCW to bolster the All Action division. -At a November TCW show, Hooded Kudo shocked the world by wrestling in an American promotion for the first time in nearly a decade. There's still no word on how much Cornell spent to bring him into the fold, but rumor has it that an accountant somewhere in TCW management is still crying.

[Midnightnick]

[quote=shamelessposer;349413]A lot of these ideas were going to be in my own Cornellverse 2008 mod, and if any of them find their way into the official data I'd be very, very pleased. -American Elemental becomes Elemental III. By the end of 2008 American Elemental II, a woman, appears on the independent scene. -Hell's Bouncer makes a proper in-ring debut, and turns out to be a surprisingly decent wrestler (at the very least he's better than his 2007 stats would suggest). He's a reliable midcard worker with a great look, and probably ends up being DAVE's equivalent to WWF's (mid-2001)Test. -White Samurai continued making appearances in MAW after his good showing in the 2007 Rip Chord Invitational. He has yet to win a title but has definitely won over a lot of fans, in particular with his stunning best-of-seven series against Mainstream Hernandez. -NOTBPW dropped their women's division, and Victoria left the company in protest to found the Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation. Sean McFly no longer had marital ties to the promotion, and became one of the biggest wrestling stories of the year when he left NOTBPW to sign with PGHW. -Texas Pete quickly made enemies in TCW and was gone by the end of the summer. He then made a surprise appearance in USPW, where he was immediately inserted into the main event scene. -USPW has jumped up to a comfortable Cult position, and signed many of their top workers to written contracts. This came about when a new national television network was looking for wrestling programming and got scared off by promotional material from DAVE, so they fled in the opposite direction and ended up with USPW instead. -DAVE is hurting. Most of their bigger stars have been signed away, to the point that the Latino Kings are positioned as solid midcarders. -Alex Braun left DAVE after one too many of his paychecks bounced, and ended up taking a position as head booker of a European wrestling promotion. This promotion has risen to prominence (maybe a Regional position?) through Braun's solid booking and gradual shift to a more hardcore style. -Big Smack Scott? SWF champion. -Fumihiro Ota and Silver Shark join SWF as part of the All Action division. Deano Machino and Brett Biggz join TCW to bolster the All Action division. -At a November TCW show, Hooded Kudo shocked the world by wrestling in an American promotion for the first time in nearly a decade. There's still no word on how much Cornell spent to bring him into the fold, but rumor has it that an accountant somewhere in TCW management is still crying.[/quote] Poser. I absolutely love the White Samurai and Hell's Bouncers ideas. Same with Texas Pete. You have genius ideas for 3 of my favorite wrestlers in the Cornellverse.

[Ramaeno]

My Predictions: SWF - * We've seen the end of the Underwater Union. * Sam Keith has retired * Skull DeBones is the reigning World Champion * Jack Bruce, Rich Money, Angry Gilmore are the top contenders in the SWF North American title scene. * Joe Sexy has split with Gilmore, Remo has split with Rich Money and now Remo and Sexy are either teaming of feuding * Brett Biggz is a road agent, having stepped aside for his brother to shine. * Death Row are a dominant tag team * Goodbye to the artist formally known as Flex * Kurt Laramee has reunited with his girlfriend and leads some kind of gangster stable TCW * Has either sank with their depleted roster or swam with some new big fishes * Has established some kind of working agreement with an overseas organization loaded with talent (PHGW, BHOTWG) * Rocky Golden is about to become the world champion * RDJ remains at the top of the organization and as an attempt to keep his friend employed, the guy who looks like a secret service agent (whose name escapes me right now) is his on screen bodyguard * Harry Wilson is gone * The Nation of Filth are gone DAVE * Continue to struggle. * Have signed The Nation of Filth who are now their top tag team * Eric Tyler has retired * Chris Caufield can barely continue his career * Nemesis attempted a return but failed miserably * Vin Tanner has retired * JD Morgan returns to the UK * Johnny Martin remains the organizations most successful veteran * Guide and Scout remain but are no longer protected by their written deals * Alex Braun has retired * Brauns retirement coincided with Tank Bradleys firing for some kind of outrageous backstage issue * The Latino Kings had a good stint for the year, earning lots of heat, unfortunately such heat was also found upon them backstage and they were escorted abruptly out the door USPW * Continuing to thrive especially with the leadership of Sam Strong and Bruce The Giant * Have worked out an agreement of some kind with both a television network and MAW * The Lords of War and The Demons of Rage had a dream match which brought the organization loads of publicity and money * Nicky Champion continues his grooming under Sam Strong * The Hillbillys are not significant contenders but rather time fillers * Have added a good deal of young, (albeit gimmicky) talent CZCW * Have not changed much since last year, possibly lost Fox Mask to a bigger company and added more faces NYCW * Barely hanging on. * Black Hat Bailey has helped the promotion a great deal but at a terrible economic loss * Tank Bradley has been signed and is their top star due to his DAVE name recognition MAW * Working with USPW * Continuing to flurish with their youngsters and Rip Chords supervision NOTBPW * Dominating Canada but little much has changed Thats just some stuff off the top of my head for now

[Ping von Erich]

- Rip Chord has passed on, MAW is bought by TCW to serve as their feeder fed. Robert Oxford is given the reigns. A lot of the top talent is either brought up to TCW or walks out. (Des to USPW, Mainstream to CZCW, Parker to PWMAX, etc.) - DAVE is out of business. Phil either leaves the business or joins SWF or TCW as a manager. - Pro Wrestling MAX, headed up by Shawn Gonzalez, fills with void left by DAVE with a technically sound roster of young hungry grapplers like Frankie Perez, Steven Parker, Art Reed, Sean Deeley, Brandon Smith etc. - Fox Mask buys CZCW out right and slowly turns it into the awesome faux lucha fed it was always meant to be. (The product settings altered so people like Corp. Doom or Primus Allen don't sign with them.. yeesh.) - Huge shake ups with the Canadian scene, George DeColt finally succumbs to a bad heart and passes on CGC closing its doors soon after, his sons scattering to the four corners of the earth. Ricky moves onto 4C, Alex debuts with SWF, and Jack and Steve tour Japan as a tag team with Burning Hammer. - WEXXV hit a golden age with several amazing young hardcore talents debuting (the Japanese scene is grossly over saturated with high flyers and technicians and no real aggressive nasty hardcore garbage wrestlers, this needs to be changed) - USPW finds a bulk of its roster retiring, but find a whole host of replacements in the recently released Underwater Union.. Chris switching back to Lobster Man, Pratt and Jasckson deciding their real names suited them better, working as a no nonsense tag team. - USPW also find aide in the form of recently dropped TCW talents Texas Pete, Liberty and the hot headed BLZ Bubb, making USPW an overnight contender for the number two spot. I absolutly love the idea of USPW growing larger and creating a women's division based around Strong's daughter, awesome idea!

[juggaloninjalee]

I want to see TCW begin to dominate the US much like WCW dominated WWE in the 90s. They could bring in established tag teams if promotions like DaVE, or CGC died. TCW also has a big heel stable consisting of Tommy Cornell, Charlie Thatcher, and the Tag Team Specialists. The Machines become a face tag team late in 2007 when Tommy Cornell has the Tag Team Specialists attack them and promises them a tag team title shot in which they win but they lose the titles not long after in a match where Cornell and Charlie are banned from ringside. USPW should NOT have a womens division. SWF should! I feel like most people about McFly not being tied to NOTBPW. They have too many talented faces. He can stay married to Victoria but a big fight with Dan Stone Sr. could lead to him being let go and Victoria backing her man. They could go to SWF where she leads the womens division with Alicia Strong. McFly could become a huge star battling for the North American Title for awhile. USPW should pick up old stars like Nemesis. DaVE shouldn't die but should lose a lot of its more over guys. MAW growing could be good. TCW should get a small new development fed. Maybe bring up a new rookie tag team or two. Mexico should have a lot of crossover stars who want work in the US for money and fame.

[Basmat01]

Maybe a Long Term Injury happens to a Really big name in the C-verse (Tommy Cornell?) Ed Stones demains a main event title run which Dan Stone refuses because he believes he is not ready for the main event resulting in Ed Stone leaving NOTBPW Jeremy Stone becomes a part-time Wrestler and becomes either Head Booker or Owner because either Victoria leaves, Dan Stone dies or Dan Stone steps aside for Jeremy to take over...

[juggaloninjalee]

No dont let Cornell get hurt! I thought of another idea... how about having the Vessey Bros. return to TCW to revive the tag team division? I think that would be huge!

[WrestleManiac]

I'd like to see the UK scene start to grow... even if it is just a minor sprouting. Maybe ROF have an upturn in fortune after reluctantly changing their style to compete with the competition... or suddenly, magically, people start to show an interest in them. Maybe see 21CW stumble in the hands of that celebraty, self-loving, ego maniac Jeff Nova.

[Dragonmack]

My Guess on where the new workers from 2007 will be at the beginning of 2008 [LIST] [*]Cameron Vessey- Uncle Bryan and father Larry get him into PGHW where they have a Vessey stable. [*]Carlos Gonzalez- Joins Dave and replaces Hector Galindo in the Latino Kings [*]Bulldozer Brandon Smith - signs with USPW but then gets picked up by WLW [*]Jamie Quine- part of a new USPW Women's division [*]Alicia Strong- Catalyst of USPW creating a Women's division headed by her and Wanda Fish, who is stolen from AAA. [*]Davis Wayne Newton- signed to CGC to replace the losses of Shooter Sean and Whippy the Clown, then gets stolen right before 2008 by NOTBPW. [*]Ox Krevizuk- signed by USPW and teamed with Aaron Jackson aka Jumbo Shrimp for a new monster heel tag team as Towers of Power are broken up by now. [*]Gargantuan- picked up by SWF and sent to RIPW to mold into a new monster heel to replace the aging Runaway Train. [*]King Kong Kennedy-joins Ox Krevizuk and Jumbo Shrimp in USPW to make a new heel stable under Sheik Mustafa [*]Casey Valentine- goes to MAW to continue training under Rip Chord and replaces Mainstream Hernandez who has gone to CZCW as the main opponent for Steven Parker. [*]Various Luchadors-spread throughout the three feds and emerging MHW. [*]Japanese- WEXXV gets absorbed into WLW and their Streetfighting division. [*]Don't know enough about the workers that premiere in Japan in 2007 to guess [*]Fearless Blue and Daredevil Aero get a tryout in CZCW. [/LIST]

[xfactor9600]

more workers in Europe and the UK. THe talent pool is kind of thin. Perhaps another Euro fed.

[theunholyicon]

Can't even begin to imagine the changes. Just gonna wait and see. Its going to be one loooong wait :(

[TheAsianKing]

Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation -became a huge threat to both 5SSW and AAA -Black widow, Catherine Quine, Cherry Bomb, and Grace Harper leaves AAA to join CWWF -June Butler leaves 5SSW and brings Crusher Ichihara and the team Seek & Destroy -Melody Cuthill and Tamara Mcfly leaves NOTBPW to join CWWF -at war with both 5SSW and AAA -June Butler is the owner with CAtherine Quine as Head Booker

[PassagetoHonour]

[QUOTE=Bolton;349384]I've got some comical ideas for 2008 C'verse - Sean shocks the Canadians by announcing he wants to return to the SWF. However he's the Canadian champ, so dear ol' father-in-law Dan Stone screws Sean McFly in what was called "The Toronto Screwjob" the person who won it? The bosse's favorite son, Dan Stone Jr. - Tommy Cornell finally scumbs to desire and becomes a master of politics, guarrenting him that he is STILL the TCW World champ in 2008. Several of the talent leave. - Enygma shocks Richard Eisen by going to USPW so he can dominate the whole roster like he did in the 2004 SWF. - Runaway Train announces his retirement and drops the SWF World title to Steve Frehley, who has another mega run until losing it to.....Eric Eisen. (Nothing like a good political Jesus push isn't there? :rolleyes: ) - Peter Valentine becomes USPW World champ because he can suck Sam Strong's big juicy wrinkly grapefruits. :p - Rip Chord kicks the bucket and Jay Chord inherites MAW, despite the fact everyone thinks that Jay doesn't know s**t about business, but Jay, to everyone's surprise, get's the promotion into Regional thanks to using politics to take the Mid-Atlantic Championship off Steven Parker. - Tom "Angry" Gilmore gets pissed that he isn't going where his talent's should lead him and leaves for Canada, but when good old family politics :rolleyes: prevent him from reaching his destiny, he goes to Japan and becomes one of the most sought after gaijins. - Marc DuBois gets really over after taking a Prima Donna gimmick (Think early 90's Shawn Michaels) he becomes North American champion after beating THE FOOOOOOOOOOOOORCE!!!!!! (What? I like the guy)[/QUOTE] I like these ideas. What is funny, is that I had the same sort of thing happen with Eric Eisen becoming SWF world champ. Remo finally got a title reign, had it for a year, then dropped it Eric, who held it for seven months!

[ZMAN]

I'd merge USPW with MAW. Have big names from the big companies join them. Sam Strong comes out of retirement to make Mean Machine a big heel. Throw in a womens division thats based around Strong's daughter. They need something to fill a TV show, damn. TCW signs New Wave and Art Reed. DAVE gets Painful Procedure's Ronnie/Randal/Billy. Kurt Laramee could make a return. SWF seems ok, maybe a few cuts and signings. The AI just sucks balls at utilizing the talent. whatever happens, I just hope the new game improves how these promotions run themselves, cause it always seems like they go straight in to the ground.

[Jonfun]

I would like to see four or five new feds, lots of new workers. I would like DAVE not to go bust, but maybe change their name.

[Undertaker666]

I for one do not want DAVE to go bust. DAVE was the first promotion I ever used and it still remains my favourite to this very day. DAVE forever!!!

[Self]

It would suck for any promotion to go under. After all, every promotion is somebodies favourite, right? I know I'd hate it if NOTBPW were no longer there for me to play as. Industry logic is one thing, but this is a game.

[Capelli King]

Dave will be around but struggling, USPW has to be doing ok, just got a push. Seam McFLy moves to TCW or SWF. I hope Europe gets a revival with more than just one decent promotion there. I think Australia will open again and will be a new but weak market.

[PoisonedSuperman]

I hope that the region system is the one used in WMMA which would mean we could get a promotion in Brazil and Australia and all over the place!!

[Tigerkinney]

I know it's a 'turnaround their fortunes' favourite for many, but I don't think NYCW, with their ageing roster and 1970's ideals can carry on like they are for much longer. I could see either see them folding, or my preferred option would be that they still exist but someone buys them out, after they almost go out of business. Of course in doing so, they would gradually change the product, introducing more faster paced modern elements and replace the washed up has-beens on their final pay day with hungrier up and comers. One idea that has been running through my head regarding NYCW is that Tommy Cornell rescues them from oblivion and uses them as a 'Development' fed for TCW. [I]Now with an interest in the Puro scene in the Cornellverse, here is what I would like to see happen amongst that scene.[/I] [B]BHOTWG:[/B] Have steadied the ship, after the INSPIRE walk-out. The heavyweight division is still a bit iffy but a Nakasawa-Kudo feud over the World Title has kept it respectable, but they still over-push the likes of Taira and Masuno. The Rebellion are on top of the tag division, but fans are clamouring for them to have singles runs. The Super Juniors are thriving though, producing quality matches week in, week out and are seen as the jewel in the promotions crown. [B]PGHW:[/B] Are still about level with BHOTWG , but can't quite forge ahead. They're still as the top company in terms of overall wrestling product, but fans are starting to grow a little bit of tired of the same set of names dominating the main event. [B]GCG:[/B] On the back of a great feud between Hyobanshi-Gakusha , and some savvy Gaijin signings, and some cheap but suprisingly decent pick-ups from the independents/the demise of WEXVV...they actually manage to steady their slide and they look to be in their most financially solid position for years. [B]WLW:[/B] Despite the fact that Golden Canvas, have halted their slide....WLW overtake them as the undisputed No.3 promotion as more fans flock to their 'alternative' Lucharesu product. They scrap the Streetfighting and Tap Out titles, unifying them with the Showstealer Title, this sees them produce more focused booking on their remaining champions. In a tribute to their Lucha-Libre influence, they also introduce a Tournament Title for Six Man Tag Matches. [B]INSPIRE:[/B] They have an inital spike in popularity, due to their ex BHOTWG star names, and the fans are intrigued by the MMA influenced product, but the novelty begins to wear off, and the fans start to flock back to the likes of BHOTWG and PGHW, or they leave INSPIRE behind and go to proper MMA events instead. In a bid to add some more variety, to a product that is quickly beginning to grow stale, they introduce a 'Lightweight' Title at the end of 2007. [B]Hinote Dojo and SAISHO:[/B] Still the developmental feds for BHOTWG and Saisho. However they change their schedule to a touring one, touring in the months that their parent companies are not touring. [B]WEXVV:[/B] Have finally gone out of business, signalling the 'death' of Garbage Wrestling in Japan. [B]5SSW:[/B] Still the undisputed No.1 Joshi promotion..... But I think some new competion will open up at the end of 2007, that is set up by a big-name that has a falling out with 5SSW managment, I'm thinking someone the stature of Kit Hatoyama.

[Dragonmack]

My take on NYCW through the end of 2007 Steve Flash is finally Empire Champion after Grandmaster Phunk leaves for either DAVE or SWF, having proved himself as a wrestler. With Bailey as the Head Booker, it is still an old boys network , and some of the aging castoffs from the big two will find a home in NYCW, particularly the Nation of Filth, Stink and Grunt, who will replace Wiley Coyote as the tag team champions. Sammy the Shark will have changed gimmicks and be a solid midcarder, perhaps even Tri-State Champion. There will be two major acquisitions, one old and one new as Robert Oxford joins NYCW to rebuild his sagging career and is the main challenger for Steve Flash for the Empire Championship and they will pick up another young big man a la The Big Problem. In this case either Primus Allen or Gargantuan and he will become the new 'monster heel'. Notable departures- Land Mass retired, American Machine to USPW or RIPW Whistler could either be retired, or have gone to join a resurrected SCCW.

[Beeker]

What is this talk of the fantasy Cornellverse? Everyone knows that the REAL power Timmy Cromwell who that hack Tommy Cornell stole everything from. Moves. Mannerisms. Promo style! Finally Timmy Cromwell finds a fed HaLF (the one that I'm still working at. Hopefully it'll debut in January.) Currently I've added 28 Mini wrestlers and have a bunch more to add. So far, all 30 are 'modelled' in whole or in part on current CVerse wrestlers. Plus a few 'modelled on none' minis I need to create. HaLF will be based in Northern Mexico and straddling the Texas/Mexico border and while far from super popular it will be a solid Small to Regional promotion. HaLF - It's not about weight limits, it's about height limits! *** Here now... the biography of Timmy Cromwell: "Smooth Injustice" Timmy Cromwell is considered by many within the industry to be the finest worker of his generation. Or would be, if not for being just under 4'6 and having all his in-ring moves and mannerisms cribbed by Tommy Cornell. A natural heel with an ability to make virtually any opponent look great. He schemes and dreams of a world where he won't be over looked due to his small stature.