The Road to Glory Challenge

[Idolized]

Went Bankrupt with Paradise Pro Wrestling in June 2017, being $14,335 in the whole. Had just started making money the last two months too <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Idolized" data-cite="Idolized" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Went Bankrupt with Paradise Pro Wrestling in June 2017, being $14,335 in the whole. Had just started making money the last two months too <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hawaii's Finest gone too soon :/ Was it just a case of bad luck?</p>

[Idolized]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hawaii's Finest gone too soon :/ Was it just a case of bad luck?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm thinking so. I could have put on endless matches with my user character and Molokai milk the first year while using 1 or 2 others since I had two men working for free but it felt like cheating a bit. Ah well, I might give it another shot</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Idolized" data-cite="Idolized" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Went Bankrupt with Paradise Pro Wrestling in June 2017, being $14,335 in the whole. Had just started making money the last two months too <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wow. I don't want to ask how deep you got. In the one RTG game I've played that got out of debt I never went more than about $6,100 into debt before I started climbing back out and I was even before Feb 2017.</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Frank77" data-cite="Frank77" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Chris ‘C.T’ Toff- End Of Year One<p> </p><p> <strong>Respect</strong>: 12</p><p> <strong>Reputation</strong>: 54</p><p> <strong>Pop</strong>: 22 in Tristate</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Top 5 Stat Changes</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> 1. <strong>Babyface Performance </strong> 35-81 ( a massive gain, crazy for 1 year working as babyface, the gimmick based on the 'cool' stat, didn't increase the stat at all, 'cool' remains the same rating as when i started)</p><p> 2. <strong>Acting</strong> 40-55</p><p> 3. <strong>Safety</strong> 34-49 </p><p> 4. <strong>Microphone</strong> 50- 63</p><p> 5. <strong>Consistency</strong> 40 – 53 </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lowest Stat Changes</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> 1. <strong>Menace</strong> 4 - no change</p><p> 2. <strong>Sex appeal </strong> 30-32</p><p> 3. <strong>Star quality</strong> 72-74</p><p> 4. <strong>toughness</strong> 20-23</p><p> 5. <strong>Athleticism</strong> 20- 24</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> Just to let you know gimmick skills like "cool" never improve. Menace can only improve through a change in size. Sex appeal also seems to only go up a massive amount with a size change.</p>

[Frank77]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mvargus" data-cite="mvargus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just to let you know gimmick skills like "cool" never improve. Menace can only improve through a change in size. Sex appeal also seems to only go up a massive amount with a size change.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> oh i thought they would, should have picked a bit wiser with them then instead of spreading them out a bit.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Got a size change from the end of year roll, with starting Menace of 4, will it really help me that much though <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />. Does anything else change with a size increase? i have low athleticism and power, is power going to go up but athleticism down?.</p>

[Frank77]

oh i thought they would, should have picked a bit wiser with them then instead of spreading them out a bit.

 

 

Got a size change from the end of year roll, with starting Menace of 4, will it really help me that much though . Does anything else change with a size increase? i have low athleticism and power, is power going to go up but athleticism down?.

 

Size increased just happend lightheavy to heavyweight... I thought middleweight was next. Looks like I gained

 

+4 Power, +5 Stamina, +4 Star Quality and +6 Menace. No sex appeal.

[RKOwnage]

<p>Gave this my first shot. First show got a 38/D- in Tri State; The Silencer defeated Mark Smart in my main event, quarterfinals of a Heavyweight Title tournament. I'm already down $3,379. Am I paying people too much? I have 8 workers, a woman for sex appeal segments, a referee, an owner working for free, and a color commentator. (The owner is the announcer).</p><p> </p><p>

Current roster: Austin Smooth, Cobra, Desert Storm, Edward Stark (user), Mark Smart, Martyr, Seth Whitehead, and The Silencer.</p><p> </p><p>

Do you guys think I should start fresh and really just sign the cheapest talent possible?</p>

[SeanMcG]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Frank77" data-cite="Frank77" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>oh i thought they would, should have picked a bit wiser with them then instead of spreading them out a bit.<p> </p><p> </p><p> Got a size change from the end of year roll, with starting Menace of 4, will it really help me that much though <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />. Does anything else change with a size increase? i have low athleticism and power, is power going to go up but athleticism down?.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Frank77" data-cite="Frank77" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Size increased just happend lightheavy to heavyweight... I thought middleweight was next. Looks like I gained<p> </p><p> +4 Power, +5 Stamina, +4 Star Quality and +6 Menace. No sex appeal.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Sizes in Order</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Very Small, Small, Lightweight, Middle, Light Heavy, Heavy, Big Heavy, Super and Giant.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As for the stat increases and decreases that come with it, I've ran a few tests. General size increases will improve Star Quality, Menace, Power and Athleticism until Light Heavyweight, which after going any sizes increases no longer improve Athleticism. </p><p> </p><p> Decreasing size increases Sex Appeal but I need to find the rest of my data <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Changing Tone (Average, Toned, Muscular, Ripped, Flabby, Obese) significantly changes stats. I've seen increases from 4-9 in Star Quality, 6-12 in Sex Appeal and around 2-6 in Menace. Can't really test it since the only news you ever see is if they now are "ripped', but if you keep an eye on your worker's development you will spot jumps in those stats then odds are they've changed body type.</p>

[Narcizo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RKOwnage" data-cite="RKOwnage" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Current roster: Austin Smooth, Cobra, Desert Storm, Edward Stark (user), Mark Smart, Martyr, Seth Whitehead, and The Silencer.</p><p> </p><p> Do you guys think I should start fresh and really just sign the cheapest talent possible?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Most of those guys are pretty cheap aren't they? You probably don't want to pay much over $300 though and don't give travel compensation. You don't need a colour commentator - if you want to use announcing (as your owner is an announcer then you can get one of the wrestlers to colour commentate if any have any skill). Your first month is always going to be the most expensive as you don't get much sponsorship. I don't know if it helps but theoretically having your show at the start of the month should help as you'll get the pop bump to help with sponsorship.</p>

[Dr. Hook]

Most of those guys are pretty cheap aren't they? You probably don't want to pay much over $300 though and don't give travel compensation. You don't need a colour commentator - if you want to use announcing (as your owner is an announcer then you can get one of the wrestlers to colour commentate if any have any skill). Your first month is always going to be the most expensive as you don't get much sponsorship. I don't know if it helps but theoretically having your show at the start of the month should help as you'll get the pop bump to help with sponsorship.

 

They are cheap, but a couple at least are too expensive for the RTG as it is with current finances- Austin Smooth is $400pa, Silencer is $500 so in an ideal situation he'd have three workers at that price. Desert Storm is somewhere around $400-500 and I think Mark Smart starts out in that range also. Just saving that $500/mo. on worker costs can make a massive difference in this year's version.

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RKOwnage" data-cite="RKOwnage" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gave this my first shot. First show got a 38/D- in Tri State; The Silencer defeated Mark Smart in my main event, quarterfinals of a Heavyweight Title tournament. I'm already down $3,379. Am I paying people too much? I have 8 workers, a woman for sex appeal segments, a referee, an owner working for free, and a color commentator. (The owner is the announcer).<p> </p><p> Current roster: Austin Smooth, Cobra, Desert Storm, Edward Stark (user), Mark Smart, Martyr, Seth Whitehead, and The Silencer.</p><p> </p><p> Do you guys think I should start fresh and really just sign the cheapest talent possible?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think you are paying a bit much. At the start a E- grade is more than good enough to get your company the usual popularity increase, so while I understand wanting a bunch of good workers, you really only need 2 that cost more than $300-$350.</p><p> </p><p> The woman is nice, but unless you have an angle heavy popularity based product I'd leave her out until your company is making a profit. Once you are making money bring in a sexy lady that can handle a microphone and have her help train your user character as his manager.</p><p> </p><p> Dump the color man. Going without has no effect on your match ratings at local size. If you really want one, have one of your better microphone people take that role for each match. They'll gain skill and overness that way.</p><p> </p><p> And yes, you want your events early in the month so you can get the most advantage of the daily inflow of increased sponsor money.</p><p> </p><p> Good luck</p>

[Dr. Hook]

<p>My first show scored an E- which as MVargus says, is plenty to get your pop boost. My starting roster per appearance looked like this:</p><p> </p><p>

UC- Free</p><p>

Cobra- $300</p><p>

Seth Whitehead $280</p><p>

Hawkeye Calhoun $270</p><p>

Logan Wolfsbaine $260</p><p>

Martyr $260</p><p>

Samael the Accuser $300</p><p>

Anders Thunder $270</p><p> </p><p>

Referee Gregory Chapman $210</p><p> </p><p>

I ran into the sausage fest penalty, so I added Cheyenne at $220 for the next show. Total wage bill ended at $2370 per show. You can go cheap and still do quite well. Mad Dog Mortimer is also out there and you get him for around $260 and there are other if you poke around a bit.</p>

[dalenichol]

Logan Wolfsbaine v Seth Witehead (Wolfsbaine against anybody, really) is a licence to print money. You'll easily start hitting the D/C- with him on your roster, especially after he gets the improvements of touring Japan

[Dr. Hook]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dalenichol" data-cite="dalenichol" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Logan Wolfsbaine v Seth Witehead (Wolfsbaine against anybody, really) is a licence to print money. You'll easily start hitting the D/C- with him on your roster, especially after he gets the improvements of touring Japan</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Absolutely. In fact, I almost didn't hire him because of that, but I caved in the end. In my fifth year now and he is making $1000/pa and hasn't become a douche. Whitehead has been slower developing, still in my midcard scene, but to be fair, I haven't pushed him that hard.</p>

[RKOwnage]

<p>I took some advice this time, and I'm down about $5,000 after my first two shows, which I held early in week 2. I switched it so that they're both week 1 next month. I got an E- and an E in the two shows. Next month is gonna be a "big" show, with tournament finals and what not.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, I guess this is more of a Small Questions thing, but the fans are slightly let down because my workers aren't doing dangerous spots. At this point, I don't think it's worth raising the Match Danger and letting the workers get hurt, right? Since I'm still gaining popularity and so this isn't really affecting my promotion that much.</p>

[LloydCross]

So what's the function of starting at 100 resilience? Does resilience never increase over the course of the game?

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LloydCross" data-cite="LloydCross" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So what's the function of starting at 100 resilience? Does resilience never increase over the course of the game?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Resilience is a worker's natural ability to resist injury. It can increase, but in my experience its far more likely to go down than increase (to represent a body weakening after an injury.)</p><p> </p><p> You start at 100 as its the best way to minimize the number of injuries your main character will suffer.</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RKOwnage" data-cite="RKOwnage" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I took some advice this time, and I'm down about $5,000 after my first two shows, which I held early in week 2. I switched it so that they're both week 1 next month. I got an E- and an E in the two shows. Next month is gonna be a "big" show, with tournament finals and what not.<p> </p><p> Also, I guess this is more of a Small Questions thing, but the fans are slightly let down because my workers aren't doing dangerous spots. At this point, I don't think it's worth raising the Match Danger and letting the workers get hurt, right? Since I'm still gaining popularity and so this isn't really affecting my promotion that much.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sounds like you are heading in the right direction. Although, I don't run 2 shows per month myself. I tend to think that keeping the debt down is more important, but others have had success driving popularity up quickly before reducing to doing 1 show a month.</p><p> </p><p> As for your question. I don't know the product so I can't say what the match danger should be. I can say that if its only a "slight" letdown its likely only a few points and if you are getting match grades of E- and E you don't need to worry at this time. (the grades before the markdown were likely no better than E and E+)</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dalenichol" data-cite="dalenichol" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Logan Wolfsbaine v Seth Witehead (Wolfsbaine against anybody, really) is a licence to print money. You'll easily start hitting the D/C- with him on your roster, especially after he gets the improvements of touring Japan</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> V Seth?</p><p> </p><p> In my experience Logan is definitely one of the best unknown indy wrestlers you can pick up early. The fact that USPW, TCW and SWF all ignore him just baffles me. With the right matches, he can easily carry a local/small company.</p>

[Jingo]

<p>Decided to give Road to Glory a whirl, this is me, very little actual "Wrestling Talent" to begin with... Hopefully i can learn quickly.</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/brettney1980/wrestling%20stuff/R2G%20Jessie%20Omega_zpseqooale6.png</span></p><p> </p><p>

The promotion is Bad Idea Wrestling, i'm calling the style "Comedy Hardcore"</p><p>

We will need At least one Comedy match, one High Spot/Car Crash/Steal the Show, One Story Telling and finally one Sex Appeal. (Oh yeah we are Integrated).</p><p>

Based in Central British Isles (where i'm from) and Mark Moore has signed on to be Owner - Oh and he will work for Free until the company is in a healthier financial position...</p><p> </p><p>

Now lets see how long before i bankrupt us.....</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jingo" data-cite="Jingo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Decided to give Road to Glory a whirl, this is me, very little actual "Wrestling Talent" to begin with... Hopefully i can learn quickly.<p> </p><p> <span>http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/brettney1980/wrestling%20stuff/R2G%20Jessie%20Omega_zpseqooale6.png</span></p><p> </p><p> The promotion is Bad Idea Wrestling, i'm calling the style "Comedy Hardcore"</p><p> We will need At least one Comedy match, one High Spot/Car Crash/Steal the Show, One Story Telling and finally one Sex Appeal. (Oh yeah we are Integrated).</p><p> Based in Central British Isles (where i'm from) and Mark Moore has signed on to be Owner - Oh and he will work for Free until the company is in a healthier financial position...</p><p> </p><p> Now lets see how long before i bankrupt us.....</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 5 safety in a hardcore promotion? You better be using the "keep it simple" command for the first year or you'll injury a lot of people with botches.</p>

[Jingo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mvargus" data-cite="mvargus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>5 safety in a hardcore promotion? You better be using the "keep it simple" command for the first year or you'll injury a lot of people with botches.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm expecting a lot of injuries if my stint with SNP is anything to go by... Should be fun. Thanks for the tip on "Keep it Simple" i'll do that.</p>

[mvargus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jingo" data-cite="Jingo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41290" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm expecting a lot of injuries if my stint with SNP is anything to go by... Should be fun. Thanks for the tip on "Keep it Simple" i'll do that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you can tolerate injuries, I guess it could be fun.</p><p> </p><p> But I always knew I ran conservative when it came to my games. My first RTG game is plodding along because I can't quite get my sponsor money high enough that I'm willing to try 2 shows a month.</p>

[RKOwnage]

After January and February I lost $9800 total; after running 2 shows in March, and leaving my most expensive worker (Roger Monteiro) off of one of the cards after my user character injured him, I only lost about $4,000.

 

I am slightly disappointed though; the estimated Sponsorship Income was $1,563 and I only made $675. Is it because the economy is at F and falling? That would seem to make some sense.